US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

[holdover]

Feb 19th, Trump explicitly said they had 10 or 15 days to reach a diplomatic solution or "bad things" would happen.

Literally the whole world knew a strike was coming and the approximate time frame for it.

It was only a "sneak attack" in the delusions of someone who is determined to hate anything the US does.

WTF? Your in denial of the facts. It was a surprise attack by all definitions . you have zero ability to be objective

 

[spat]

WTF? Your in denial of the facts. It was a surprise attack by all definitions . you have zero ability to be objective

If by "surprise", you mean they didn't get prior warning of the exact time and targets, then yea.

But, most rational people would agree they had plenty of warning that an attack was coming, and *nobody* is going to give them more detail than that.

We have been striking them on and off for the better part of a year already. Anyone "surprised" by these attacks has the situational awareness of a turnip.

We told them we were going to attack. Then we attacked. That's the very definition of "not a surprise".

 

[holdover]

The ICC is a sad and hypocritical joke of an organization.

That being said netanyahu and the state of israel are no saints. They play dirty because they exist in the middle of a region that would gladly see them wiped off the face of the earth. Probably a quarter of all Muslims in the region would like to see them destroyed and the rest would be indifferent at best if it happened.

Their backs are against the wall every day 24/7. So they respond in kind. Forget the Russians and Chinese. The Israelis probably run the largest and most sophisticated spying operations against the US. They knowingly kill women and children (but the arabs purposely put them in harms way by placing legitimate military targets in civilian locations).

I wish they weren't there but the fact remains they are and they aren't going anywhere without a fight. They don't control this country but they have an outsized influence on our foreign policy that is obvious to anyone with eyes.

I don't know how this ends and I am concerned we have not anticipated Iran's determination to play a long drawn out war. One can be critical of our support for the israelis and their conduct against us but only a fool would prefer to see iran dominate the middle east.

I can agree with most of what your saying, but Iran dominating the middle east is a bit much . Their geography already places them in a dominant position and they are oil rich . You cant condemn them because of their location

 

[holdover]

If by "surprise", you mean they didn't get prior warning of the exact time and targets, then yea.

But, most rational people would agree they had plenty of warning that an attack was coming, and *nobody* is going to give them more detail than that.

We have been striking them on and off for the better part of a year already. Anyone "surprised" by these attacks has the situational awareness of a turnip.

We told them we were going to attack. Then we attacked. That's the very definition of "not a surprise".

And I suppose you believe they are the aggressors too?

 

[holdover]

Righhhhhhhht. Because it makes sense to cover up his death. If he was dead, we'd know it.

Im jus sayin

 

[holdover]

It's called FAFO. See also Pearl harbor and Hiroshima/Nagasaki.

????

 

[spat]

And I suppose you believe they are the aggressors too?

I dunno, how many times do they need to attack our ships and bases and try to assassinate our president before they qualify ?

Why is it you seem to think the US needs to just sit back and take it forever.

We should have taken them out at the first opportunity after the '79 hostage crisis. It's just been a giant shit show ever since.

 

[holdover]

I dunno, how many times do they need to attack our ships and bases and try to assassinate our president before they qualify ?

Why is it you seem to think the US needs to just sit back and take it forever.

We should have taken them out at the first opportunity after the '79 hostage crisis. It's just been a giant shit show ever since.

Figures.

 

[livingston]

Iran Launches Intermediate-range Ballistic Missile Further Than All Prior Capabilities​

According to multiple media and government accounts, Iran targeted the joint U.S-UK base at Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean with two intermediate-range ballistic missiles (IRBM).
This is significant because Diego Garcia is 4,000 km away from where the missiles were launched and would indicate that all of Europe was within the strike zone as President Donald Trump previously warned.

Europe and the NATO alliance previously said Iran did not possess such capabilities. Apparently, they do.

Iran Launches Intermediate-range Ballistic Missile Further Than All Prior Capabilities - The Last Refuge

According to multiple media and government accounts, Iran targeted the joint U.S-UK base at Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean with two intermediate-range ballistic missiles (IRBM). This is significant because Diego Garcia is 4,000 km away from where the missiles were launched and would indicate...

theconservativetreehouse.com

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Iran-4000-km-missile-launch.jpeg

 

[livingston]

Iran Launches Intermediate-range Ballistic Missile Further Than All Prior Capabilities - The Last Refuge

According to multiple media and government accounts, Iran targeted the joint U.S-UK base at Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean with two intermediate-range ballistic missiles (IRBM). This is significant because Diego Garcia is 4,000 km away from where the missiles were launched and would indicate...

theconservativetreehouse.com

​

I Met Mojtaba Khamenei": The Ultimate Insider Speaks to Armin Navabi​

This very recent interview is with one of Khamenai’s former, key insiders – Mehdi Nasiri. Nasiri defected and really goes deep into the ghouls plans for the world. The interview, in Farsi, is over an hour long, as the young man (named Armin – who has been live streaming on You Tube’s “Iran Revolution Live” – an excellent source for current information) conducts the interview while simultaneously translating into English.

I just sat down with one of the highest ranking former insiders of the Islamic Republic, Mehdi Nasiri. From 1990 to 1994, he was Ali Khamenei's direct representative and ran the regime's most important publishing arm. Very few people on earth have sat face to face with Mojtaba Khamenei. Mehdi Nasiri is one of them, and his warning to the world is urgent. Nasiri exposes the terrifying reality of an isolated, incompetent leadership that is driven by a radical, imported ideology. He breaks down exactly how the men running the Islamic Republic justify their grip on power and why their willingness to burn the world down to stay in control is not a bluff.

 

[livingston]

excellent article on this just posted on Coffee ^ Covid

☕️ NATO ORIGAMI ☙ Saturday, March 21, 2026 ☙ C&C NEWS

A big picture emerges from the Iran war, putting Trump in the driver's seat; war is "winding down"; Europe's energy crisis kill box; Senator Fetterman saves the GOP again; and much more.

www.coffeeandcovid.com

A big picture emerges from the Iran war, putting Trump in the driver's seat; war is "winding down"; Europe's energy crisis kill box; Senator Fetterman saves the GOP again; and much more.​

It began innocently enough. Yesterday’s Business Standard reported, “Iran fires two missiles at Diego Garcia, signalling extended strike range.” But these two missiles —unlike the thousands of previous Iranian missiles launched in every direction— changed everything. According to Democrats and their pet experts and media allies, Iran couldn’t do this.
The long-range missiles Iran launched at Diego Garcia were reportedly in the Khorramshahr family (you wouldn’t want that family as neighbors). Open‑source analysts describe the Khorramshahr’s wide, conical nose —about 1.5 meters in diameter— and its heavy payload as perfect for holding a nuclear device.

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[fresch]

Iran Launches Intermediate-range Ballistic Missile Further Than All Prior Capabilities - The Last Refuge

According to multiple media and government accounts, Iran targeted the joint U.S-UK base at Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean with two intermediate-range ballistic missiles (IRBM). This is significant because Diego Garcia is 4,000 km away from where the missiles were launched and would indicate...

theconservativetreehouse.com

​

I Met Mojtaba Khamenei": The Ultimate Insider Speaks to Armin Navabi​

This very recent interview is with one of Khamenai’s former, key insiders – Mehdi Nasiri. Nasiri defected and really goes deep into the ghouls plans for the world. The interview, in Farsi, is over an hour long, as the young man (named Armin – who has been live streaming on You Tube’s “Iran Revolution Live” – an excellent source for current information) conducts the interview while simultaneously translating into English.

I just sat down with one of the highest ranking former insiders of the Islamic Republic, Mehdi Nasiri. From 1990 to 1994, he was Ali Khamenei's direct representative and ran the regime's most important publishing arm. Very few people on earth have sat face to face with Mojtaba Khamenei. Mehdi Nasiri is one of them, and his warning to the world is urgent. Nasiri exposes the terrifying reality of an isolated, incompetent leadership that is driven by a radical, imported ideology. He breaks down exactly how the men running the Islamic Republic justify their grip on power and why their willingness to burn the world down to stay in control is not a bluff.

How Neville Chamberlin Misread Hitler and Allowed the Third Reich to Threaten the World Order

In the new and magisterial study Appeasement: Chamberlain, Hitler, Churchill and the Road to War, Tim Bouverie incisively reconstructs the ideological landscape of post-WWI Britain to explain how Chamberlain and other politicians and pundits misread Hitler and ultimately allowed the Third Reich...

www.historynewsnetwork.org

 

[Bigfoot]

Feb 19th, Trump explicitly said they had 10 or 15 days to reach a diplomatic solution or "bad things" would happen.

Literally the whole world knew a strike was coming and the approximate time frame for it.

It was only a "sneak attack" in the delusions of someone who is determined to hate anything the US does.

Well said, only a person who has an anti-American agenda by default would consider it a sneak attack.

With all of the threats/warnings that President Trump made to the Iranian regime about what will likely happen, backed up by sending a carrier strike group to the Middle East, and then followed that up by sending a second carrier group to the area. The whole world knew about it. That's not very sneaky IMO.


Personal insults coming in 3,2,1. lol
That's how they roll.

 

[Bigfoot]

There's a reason I stopped clicking the Donbas thread. The anti-American, pro commie noise in that thread got to be overwhelming. That's not going to happen this time. I'm not giving up on this thread; instead, I'll just use the ignore option if need be.

I don't mind a different point of view, not at all, but there has to be some credibility to it.
Saying the US conducted a sneak attack on Iran is not credible. IMO

I don't even mind being called names on the internet. It tells me what I'm dealing with.

 

[Bigfoot]

 

[Bigfoot]

Iran Launches Intermediate-range Ballistic Missile Further Than All Prior Capabilities​

According to multiple media and government accounts, Iran targeted the joint U.S-UK base at Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean with two intermediate-range ballistic missiles (IRBM).
This is significant because Diego Garcia is 4,000 km away from where the missiles were launched and would indicate that all of Europe was within the strike zone as President Donald Trump previously warned.

Europe and the NATO alliance previously said Iran did not possess such capabilities. Apparently, they do.

Iran Launches Intermediate-range Ballistic Missile Further Than All Prior Capabilities - The Last Refuge

According to multiple media and government accounts, Iran targeted the joint U.S-UK base at Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean with two intermediate-range ballistic missiles (IRBM). This is significant because Diego Garcia is 4,000 km away from where the missiles were launched and would indicate...

theconservativetreehouse.com

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Iran-4000-km-missile-launch.jpeg

 

[Bigfoot]

 

[Mosinitis]

Even Trump stated this was a surprise attack. This is in the video in this thread, where he met with Japanese Prime Minister.

The attack was while negotiations were still going on and reported as making progress. @holdover is stating a historical fact when he calls it a sneak attack.

The man in a poorly fitted gorilla costume is not too bright by arguing against that.

 

[Bigfoot]

Well, that didn't take long. lol

tHe mAn iN A pOoRLy FiTtEd gOriLLa cOsTuMe iS nOt tO bRiGhT hErP dErP.

*click*



Edit: the post I responded to was deleted. Just for some perspective on my above response/post. Just trying to avoid any confusion.

I hardly ever use the ignore option, but I figure it's time to do so in this case.

 

[fresch]

Well, that didn't take long. lol

tHe mAn iN A pOoRLy FiTtEd gOriLLa cOsTuMe iS nOt tO bRiGhT hErP dErP.

*click*

"I'm smart, not like people think dumb" F C TGFather

 

[Bigfoot]

The Red Crescent Society of the Islamic Republic of Iran (IRCS), established in 1922, is a major humanitarian organization and member of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement. It provides disaster relief, medical, and rehabilitation services, operating as a voluntary, public charitable organization dedicated to alleviating suffering.

 

[tirwin1]

Iran Launches Intermediate-range Ballistic Missile Further Than All Prior Capabilities​

According to multiple media and government accounts, Iran targeted the joint U.S-UK base at Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean with two intermediate-range ballistic missiles (IRBM).
This is significant because Diego Garcia is 4,000 km away from where the missiles were launched and would indicate that all of Europe was within the strike zone as President Donald Trump previously warned.

Europe and the NATO alliance previously said Iran did not possess such capabilities. Apparently, they do.

Iran Launches Intermediate-range Ballistic Missile Further Than All Prior Capabilities - The Last Refuge

According to multiple media and government accounts, Iran targeted the joint U.S-UK base at Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean with two intermediate-range ballistic missiles (IRBM). This is significant because Diego Garcia is 4,000 km away from where the missiles were launched and would indicate...

theconservativetreehouse.com

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Iran-4000-km-missile-launch.jpeg

So if our intelligence about their missile capabilities was incorrect this logically implies our intelligence about their nuclear capabilities was incorrect - as in we need to take them seriously. This missile launch alone would tend to justify Trump's decision to attack Iran.

 

[tirwin1]

????

Start a war, suffer the consequences. It's not a difficult concept.

 

[holdover]

Well said, only a person who has an anti-American agenda by default would consider it a sneak attack.

Dude, Im red white and blue as any of you, Im not remotely anti american. But Im sorry to say my government is corrupt beyond all recognition. the raping of the American tax payer for bullshit wars in some far off land that has nothing to do with us needs to stop. The fact that the DOJ is corrupt and nobody above mayor is ever convicted let alone charged for crimes . Im sick of this god damed shit. and then you have the fanatical right that will support any thing they do, let alone question it .

For fucks sake even trump called it a surprise attack! Because it was! Im not making shit up. and just how does the world perceive the US credibility now? How do you negotiate with a fucking liar? You can bet this is going to come back and bite us in the ass one day .

these mother fuckers are fucking my country up, and Im pissed off about it

 

[holdover]

Start a war, suffer the consequences. It's not a difficult concept.

Looks like Israel and US started the war soooo.

 

[holdover]

So if our intelligence about their missile capabilities was incorrect this logically implies our intelligence about their nuclear capabilities was incorrect - as in we need to take them seriously. This missile launch alone would tend to justify Trump's decision to attack Iran.

Should we attack North Korea and China and Russia too?

 

[holdover]

The Red Crescent Society of the Islamic Republic of Iran (IRCS), established in 1922, is a major humanitarian organization and member of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement. It provides disaster relief, medical, and rehabilitation services, operating as a voluntary, public charitable organization dedicated to alleviating suffering.

that never stopped Israel from killing them by the dozens in Gaza.

 

[Bigfoot]

Dude, Im red white and blue as any of you, Im not remotely anti american. *SNIP*

these mother fuckers are fucking my country up, and Im pissed off about it

Those Iranian mother fuckers have been fucking our people up for almost 50 years.

I agree with some of the things you have posted. But in this particular case with Iran, I think Trump made the correct move. Especially now, finding out that Iran's missiles have a further reach than what was previously known.

 

[holdover]

There's a reason I stopped clicking the Donbas thread. The anti-American, pro commie noise in that thread got to be overwhelming.

pro commie? anti american? Nope. anti corruption yes , If you cannot entertain the possibility that the US does some fucked up shit then its impossible to actually have a discussion . Im not a fanatic , nor impassioned follower of anyone or anything , I call it like I see it . I dont play favorites , I look only at the evidence we have and dont take a side . This is not a sport . this is not about our teem , Its not about the sheer power of the US military . Im not a fucking cheerleader .

How do you ask young men to lay down their lives for a war that could should have been prevented ?Are you going to give his wife a flag and say thanks, hears a flag, We were protecting Israel?

 

[tirwin1]

Looks like Israel and US started the war soooo.

Hamas started the war that resulted in the destruction of Gaza, which was the original photo. Move goalposts much?