US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

[Defilade]

Nutcase Alert!

Shadow of Ezra (@ShadowofEzra) on X

Mike Huckabee says God Almighty is personally protecting and favoring the modern State of Israel above all other countries, and that this is the only reason it is "successful." Huckabee says the current population of Israel is the one the Bible mentions as the race that is

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[Defilade]

The war is over for the 20th time. Trust me!

 

[GOPerfect]

Nutcase Alert!

Shadow of Ezra (@ShadowofEzra) on X

Mike Huckabee says God Almighty is personally protecting and favoring the modern State of Israel above all other countries, and that this is the only reason it is "successful." Huckabee says the current population of Israel is the one the Bible mentions as the race that is

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The more this man speaks, the more of a putz he sounds.

Like, seriously and holy hell.

 

[spat]

Lol.

Yeah, nightly raids on Tuesday and Wednesday striking about 20 targets each night. There were plans for a significant target expansion and larger "messages".

When Iran agreed to some undisclosed terms in a MOU, Trump called off the Thursday missions.

We'll see. I don't have much faith in any negotiations involving opposing "parties" plagued with pathological radical obsessions that are stronger than their survival instinct.

It also looks like the politicians, clerics, or the normal military leadership don't have much control or influence over the fractured IRG units that seem to respond like independent well resourced rogue groups.

Iran agreed to get the bombing to stop.

But that's all they'll do is agree. They won't actually *do* whatever they agreed to.

"Sure, we will turn over all the Uranium to China". It will just take some time, we pinky promise it's on the way.

"Then we will stop the bombing when it actually gets there, not before".

 

[Bigfoot]

President Trump says the deal with Iran is now complete.




I'm not hopeful; Being Iran, I give it less than 24 hours. Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

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[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

President Trump says the deal with Iran is now complete.


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I'm not hopeful; Being Iran, I give it less than 24 hours. Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

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Some kid that lives in a village one of Iran's proxies controls will probably throw a rock across the border with Israel, then they'll respond, and we'll be right back to trying to secure another deal.

 

[DoD1776]

Some kid that lives in a village one of Iran's proxies controls will probably throw a rock across the border with Israel, then they'll respond, and we'll be right back to trying to secure another deal.

Wouldn’t be surprised if that’s how the “jooooo’s” respond. Maybe bomb another Christian church in Lebanon.

 

[Saltwater60]

Oil is pulling back. What will the liberals complain about when gas prices drop?

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

Oil is pulling back. What will the liberals complain about when gas prices drop?

UFC on the south lawn

 

[GOPerfect]

• Hostilities: Both sides have declared an immediate termination of military operations across all fronts, including Lebanon.
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• Maritime Access: The U.S. has authorized an end to its naval blockade, and the Strait of Hormuz will be reopened for international shipping.
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• Next Steps: A formal signing ceremony is scheduled to take place in Switzerland. Further negotiations are expected to formalize long-term restrictions on Iran's nuclear program

 

[Steal2B]

Sure looks like Iran bought in at a high level for now



Iran's Supreme National Security Council said Tehran and Washington have finalized a memorandum of understanding to end the war following months of negotiations.

In a statement, the council said military operations on all fronts, including Lebanon, will end "immediately and permanently" from Sunday night.

It also said the naval blockade against Iran would be lifted immediately and in full.

The council said the memorandum will be formally signed on June 19 and that negotiations on a final agreement will begin only after the other side implements its commitments under the framework deal.

The statement thanked Pakistan and Qatar for their mediation efforts.

"Iran media publish purported details of Iran-US draft agreement"
Iran media publish purported details of Iran-US draft agreement

https://www.iranintl.com/en/liveblog/202606139149

 

[Steal2B]

Now that Iran and the US claim the Strait of Hormuz is open and safe ....

Here come a French and Brit boat or two to save the day, within a week or so ...

French-UK mission 'ready' to aid Hormuz reopening: French President Emmanuel Macron

France's president on Monday said that a military mission set up by Paris and Britain to help with Strait of Hormuz traffic was ready to deploy, following the announcement of a deal to end the Middle East war. French President Emmanuel Macron, who is due to host US counterpart Donald Trump for a...

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[Beerman]

Now that Iran and the US claim the Strait of Hormuz is open and safe ....

Here come a French and Brit boat or two to save the day, within a week or so ...

French-UK mission 'ready' to aid Hormuz reopening: French President Emmanuel Macron

France's president on Monday said that a military mission set up by Paris and Britain to help with Strait of Hormuz traffic was ready to deploy, following the announcement of a deal to end the Middle East war. French President Emmanuel Macron, who is due to host US counterpart Donald Trump for a...

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France heard that Iran is surrendering, and they couldn’t resist joining in to lend their experience.

 

[GOPerfect]

I shall wait to see what exactly is involved with these peace agreement

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

I shall wait to see what exactly is involved with these peace agreement

JCPOA 2.0 is my guess

 

[Defilade]

Oil is pulling back. What will the liberals complain about when gas prices drop?

Let's see if it does drop. Let me know when it gets around $50. Otherwise a nothing burger from before the war started.

 

[Steal2B]

Let's see if it does drop. Let me know when it gets around $50. Otherwise a nothing burger from before the war started.

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It is reported that TDS is a terrible disease that impacts the part of the brain that provides logical thought.

Crude oil futures were at 67.02 usd/bl on Feb 27th the day before we struck Iraq

Crude oil futures are at 75.21 usd/bl today

Today's oil is $ 8.19 higher than Feb 27th.

We'll wake you up when it gets to 67.02 usd like you asked.



FWIW ... Oil was last under 50 usd in December 2020 when Trump was still in office as a lame duck before Biden soon fucked them up.

 

[Saltwater60]

It is reported that TDS is a terrible disease that impacts the part of the brain that provides logical thought.

Crude oil futures were at 67.02 usd/bl on Feb 27th the day before we struck Iraq

Crude oil futures are at 75.21 usd/bl today

Today's oil is $ 8.19 higher than Feb 27th.

We'll wake you up when it gets to 67.02 usd like you asked.

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FWIW ... Oil was last under 50 usd in December 2020 when Trump was still in office as a lame duck before Biden soon fucked them up.

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Couldn’t have said it better myself. Thanks for doing the legwork on this.
You know the thing, some people think what they are going to think. I can’t believe some of the posts in this thread, but hey here we are.

 

[DoD1776]

It is reported that TDS is a terrible disease that impacts the part of the brain that provides logical thought.

Crude oil futures were at 67.02 usd/bl on Feb 27th the day before we struck Iraq

Crude oil futures are at 75.21 usd/bl today

Today's oil is $ 8.19 higher than Feb 27th.

We'll wake you up when it gets to 67.02 usd like you asked.

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FWIW ... Oil was last under 50 usd in December 2020 when Trump was still in office as a lame duck before Biden soon fucked them up.

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Oh ok so what you’re saying is that the price at the pump is due to corporate greed rather than actual price per barrel costs?

 

[DoD1776]

Let's see if it does drop. Let me know when it gets around $50. Otherwise a nothing burger from before the war started.

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If I had a dollar for every time they call it TDS that we aren’t happy with fuel prices I’d be a rich man!!

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

If I had a dollar for every time they call it TDS that we aren’t happy with fuel prices I’d be a rich man!!

I think it can be both.

It's not wrong to say, gas prices are up because of global instability, conflict, unrest and supply chain problems. That's all absolutely true.

It's also not wrong to say gas and oil was high during Biden years. That's also true.

Hopefully the price continues to come down and settles into where it was 6 months ago or lower.

 

[DoD1776]

I think it can be both.

It's not wrong to say, gas prices are up because of global instability, conflict, unrest and supply chain problems. That's all absolutely true.

It's also not wrong to say gas and oil was high during Biden years. That's also true.

Hopefully the price continues to come down and settles into where it was 6 months ago or lower.

I can agree 100% with that statement. Both situations are avoidable though. Biden somewhat had an excuse for the beginning when we were coming out of Covid peak so supply went up significantly, BUT… BUT.. he had a lot of bullshit policies which furthered the impact of raised prices.

Trumps price raising is inexcusable though. If I’m not mistaken the Venezuela situation immediately caused an impact, then Iran. If Trump doesn’t fix it quick he and the Republican Party are going to feel the impacts even more in the midterms. He can’t afford that with the way most of the younger generation is going this election.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I can agree 100% with that statement. Both situations are avoidable though. Biden somewhat had an excuse for the beginning when we were coming out of Covid peak so supply went up significantly, BUT… BUT.. he had a lot of bullshit policies which furthered the impact of raised prices.

Trumps price raising is inexcusable though. If I’m not mistaken the Venezuela situation immediately caused an impact, then Iran. If Trump doesn’t fix it quick he and the Republican Party are going to feel the impacts even more in the midterms. He can’t afford that with the way most of the younger generation is going this election.

I think Venezuela is different, that will go down as a positive development for the US. Having US refinery access to Venezuela is a good thing. That's more available oil outside our front door.

 

[GOPerfect]

Oil is down another 3 bucks today

 

[Saltwater60]

I can agree 100% with that statement. Both situations are avoidable though. Biden somewhat had an excuse for the beginning when we were coming out of Covid peak so supply went up significantly, BUT… BUT.. he had a lot of bullshit policies which furthered the impact of raised prices.

Trumps price raising is inexcusable though. If I’m not mistaken the Venezuela situation immediately caused an impact, then Iran. If Trump doesn’t fix it quick he and the Republican Party are going to feel the impacts even more in the midterms. He can’t afford that with the way most of the younger generation is going this election.

If they didn’t create the Covid issues they wouldn’t have existed in the first place. The democrats shut everything down and reduced drilling, wells, environmental regs on oil and gas, increase taxes so how is that ok for Biden and the other democrats to do? The war in Ukraine also had a factor into the gas prices u see Biden.
The fact is about Trump and Iran is we will never know if it was needed or not. I know your position on USA Israel relations so you don’t need to go there. I’m skeptical of the Iran BS as well, but maybe it was needed. Ot will take a bit of time but prices will drop, they have already dropped $0.16 by me as of a few days ago. I expect it to drop more in the coming weeks. If the cease fire holds I suspect in 2-3 weeks the price at the pump will drop pretty significantly.
I get why people are mad about the price at the pump, but if that makes or brakes your budget then people need to rethink or rework their budgets. I’ve seen so many crap posts where people are saying they can’t afford to eat or their rent because gas went up. It’s a lie for political reasons or they have a massive problem. I drove very little so it impacted me less than most, but I can still weather that price increase easily if I had to.

 

[Saltwater60]

Oil is down another 3 bucks today

If it holds for a week or two I suspect they will drop a lot more. I suspect if Israel stops what they were doing then they could be lower than before this started with US involvement. Time will tell.

 

[omfgrub]

Let's see if it does drop. Let me know when it gets around $50. Otherwise a nothing burger from before the war started.

Oil prices haven't been $50/barrel since November 2020, when **checks notes** Trump was ending his first term....

 

[Bigfoot]

TDS is real, it's a strange phenomenon.

I just thought I'd mention it.

 

[Steal2B]

Oh ok so what you’re saying is that the price at the pump is due to corporate greed rather than actual price per barrel costs?

Nope. Just showed the actal market price of crude oil futures.

Now I'm smiling as I contemplate, ponder, and reflect how your question could have come up.

 

[Steal2B]

If I had a dollar for every time they call it TDS that we aren’t happy with fuel prices I’d be a rich man!!

Hopefully this is a hyperbolic exaggeration on the frequency of occurrence for some comic effect, otherwise, to be a rich man you just gotta work hard, spend wisely, avoid toxic relationships, invest smartly, and save for the future with an investment vehicle like an IRC §530A TRUMP Account.