US Army policy change! But Why? Genderless Showers?

[BerettaGuy]

It seems like yesterday we were talking about gradeschool bathrooms.
Now it has increased into the US Army and boot camp showers.
When and where will the clown world end?

So remember the movie Star Ship Troopers?
Troops showering together?
It was an Australian movie with a scene spoofing Americas being dicfor's.



Then comes along a Biden Official who is trying to gain brownnose points with the Bidens Office of Gender Equality who obviously saw the movie and saw a chance for promotion.

I mean What the Actual F___?


But then again, if you have an Army of SoyBoys with no sperm count, what is the problem?

 

[Nighttrain]

What could possibly go wrong (sarcasm)

 

[Dr. Evil]

Every time you think they have sunken to the lowest they possibly could...

 

[Jsmegs77]

In other news, biology takes over and pregnancy rates skyrocket…

 

[Uzi]

Oh no, I'd hate to shower with naked women.

 

[Saltwater60]

Rapes and sexual assaults will skyrocket and people will wonder why. Been married 20 years and if I see my wife naked she still turns me on so??

 

[Zerex]

Erections will be noted.......... as sexual harassment, and reported. Evidence will be hard to find.

30% of the Navy is women, and about half are usually deployed at any one time, at sea. 35% of women at sea become pregnant, thru divine conceptions.

I expect the same general outcome in the land based showers. Boys will be boys.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

2 things.

1, starship troopers is an Australian movie? How did i not know this????

2, this is going to end in disaster

 

[meketrefe]

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[Defilade]

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Bennie gave me so many laughs back in the day!

 

[BuffNiag]

I cannot find any news source stating such…

 

[Jsmegs77]

I cannot find any news source stating such…

Me neither. Wanted to show my Army vet wife.

 

[dwa12479]

All I can think of is the shower scene from Porkys now...

 

[GOPerfect]

When I was stationed at Fort Riley, I was invited to shower with a female Soldier, we had co-ed type showers. Males would use during certain times and females other times.

This particular night, I joined a female Soldier and it turned out to be an amazing night. I got very clean during that longggggggggg shower session. That night led to many more nights in the shower.

 

[spat]

The article I read said that *transgender* people will be showering with the "opposite" sex.

So, that means if you're a "woman" with a penis you shower with the guys, right ?

If that's what it is I'm not sure it's as bad as it sounds.

The expedient solution to this insanity is to stop segregating things by gender and start using the underlying characteristics we want to segregate by to begin with.

So, no more men's and women's bathrooms, we have penis and vagina bathrooms. If you're one of the incredibly rare people with both, you get your pick. Everyone one else, it goes by plumbing.

For almost all of the things we segregate by gender, the reason we segregate is not actually gender, but an underlying reason that until very recently was tied to gender.

 

[Phazer]

It is actually a bit different than stated in the OP.

Exclusive: Army Says Soldiers Must Shower with Transgender Persons

An Army training slide obtained by Breitbart News instructs soldiers to shower with transgender persons of the opposite sex.

www.breitbart.com

An Army training slide obtained by Breitbart News instructs soldiers to shower with transgender members of the opposite sex even if they have not undergone a surgical transition.

The training slide offers a “vignette” instructing soldiers on what to do if they encounter a female soldier who identifies as male according to the Department of Defense’s personnel tracking system known as Defense Enrollment Eligibility Reporting System (DEERS), but has not surgically transitioned and still has “female genitalia.”

 

[Phazer]

The article I read said that *transgender* people will be showering with the "opposite" sex.

So, that means if you're a "woman" with a penis you shower with the guys, right ?

If that's what it is I'm not sure it's as bad as it sounds.

It also means that if a soldier is a transgender man (i.e. a woman who thinks that she is a man), but still has female genitalia, they will shower with male soldiers.

 

[spat]

It also means that if a soldier is a transgender man (i.e. a woman who thinks that she is a man), but still has female genitalia, they will shower with male soldiers.

No, she would shower with the "opposite gender", and since they recognize her as a man, that would put her back with the women.


If the policy *only* applies to transgender individuals, that would put people back where they belong.

"Fine, we'll call you a woman, and let you wear a uniform with a skirt, but you still shower with the guys" and vice versa.

 

[Phazer]

No, she would shower with the "opposite gender", and since they recognize her as a man, that would put her back with the women.


If the policy *only* applies to transgender individuals, that would put people back where they belong.

"Fine, we'll call you a woman, and let you wear a uniform with a skirt, but you still shower with the guys" and vice versa.

I do not think that is what they are saying.

The slide instructs soldiers: “Soldiers must accept living and working conditions that are often austere, primitive, and characterized by little or no privacy. … Understand anyone may encounter individuals in barracks, bathrooms, or shower facilities with physical characteristics of the opposite sex despite having the same gender marker in DEERS.”​

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It also tells soldiers that they should be “respectful of the privacy and modesty concerns of others,” but that “transgender Soldiers are not required or expected to modify or adjust their behavior based on the fact that they do not ‘match’ other Soldiers.”​

Remember, the leadership are wokestanians. If a female soldier says she is a "man," then she showers with the male soldiers even though the transgender "man" still has female genitalia. The biologic male soldiers are being instructed to "deal with it." I'm sure that they would. However, a transgender woman (read: man who identifies as a woman) will be permitted to shower with biological female soldiers even though the transgender "woman" still has male genitalia. I do not believe that many of the female soldiers will be able to "deal with it."

 

[spat]

I do not think that is what they are saying.

The slide instructs soldiers: “Soldiers must accept living and working conditions that are often austere, primitive, and characterized by little or no privacy. … Understand anyone may encounter individuals in barracks, bathrooms, or shower facilities with physical characteristics of the opposite sex despite having the same gender marker in DEERS.”​

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It also tells soldiers that they should be “respectful of the privacy and modesty concerns of others,” but that “transgender Soldiers are not required or expected to modify or adjust their behavior based on the fact that they do not ‘match’ other Soldiers.”​

Remember, the leadership are wokestanians. If a female soldier says she is a "man," then she showers with the male soldiers even though the transgender "man" still has female genitalia. The biologic male soldiers are being instructed to "deal with it." I'm sure that they would. However, a transgender woman (read: man who identifies as a woman) will be permitted to shower with biological female soldiers even though the transgender "woman" still has male genitalia. I do not believe that many of the female soldiers will be able to "deal with it."

I really think all this stuff would be better off as "people who are biologically women and have been since birth". And "everyone else".

That would work for most of the gender divisions. Since men are far less concerned about the mixing than women are.

 

[repete]

Rapes and sexual assaults will skyrocket and people will wonder why. Been married 20 years and if I see my wife naked she still turns me on so??

Only 20? Wait another 20

 

[repete]

I really think all this stuff would be better off as "people who are biologically women and have been since birth". And "everyone else".

That would work for most of the gender divisions. Since men are far less concerned about the mixing than women are.

I think it would be a lot better off if they just said, if you are confused about who or what you are then we don't have a place in the military for mentally unstable people.

 

[GTN]

Bennie gave me so many laughs back in the day!

As a kid we watched it while eating dinner

 

[Phazer]

I really think all this stuff would be better off as "people who are biologically women and have been since birth". And "everyone else".

That would work for most of the gender divisions. Since men are far less concerned about the mixing than women are.

Even simpler: "XY" genome...male. "XX" genome...female. Done.

Abnormal variations can be dealt with on a case by case basis. In ambiguous cases, phenotype will be used for determination of "gender" over genotype.

 

[GOPerfect]

It is funny.

He in the US, this is what is a concerning thing.

So many other Nations are overrunning their corrupt governements.

Glad our issues are so small.

 

[holdover]

Real men are not going to tolerate this nonsense. They arent going to join gay trans army with fucking different rules for mentally ill people. They are not going to put thier life at risk by relying on on fucked up people who are offended by words.

It crosses my mind sometimes, first they purged the generals then the officer core , now the enlisted. Leftists and People who have no loyalty to the old flag are going to be running the military. Would they fire on Americans? Are they building an army that would?

Take a good look at Russian and Chinese soldiers, Tough as nails. If I were building an army to confront them would I want to do it with a gay brigade? People who are not mentally tough, or aggressive?

One of the things the military does in basic training is to stress people out while having to do tasks under pressure while physically exhausted. To do it under simulated stress of combat. thats mostly gone now.

If I were building an army to confront Americans I would use people who had belief and desire in their cause.

My point being, they are not training to fight a near peer power, I think they may be training to fight Americans

They need everyone to go along with the program. Dont know, just thinking out loud.

 

[GOPerfect]

Real men are not going to tolerate this nonsense. They arent going to join gay trans army with fucking different rules for mentally ill people. They are not going to put thier life at risk by relying on on fucked up people who are offended by words.

It crosses my mind sometimes, first they purged the generals then the officer core , now the enlisted. Leftists and People who have no loyalty to the old flag are going to be running the military. Would they fire on Americans? Are they building an army that would?

Take a good look at Russian and Chinese soldiers, Tough as nails. If I were building an army to confront them would I want to do it with a gay brigade? People who are not mentally tough, or aggressive?

One of the things the military does in basic training is to stress people out while having to do tasks under pressure while physically exhausted. To do it under simulated stress of combat. thats mostly gone now.

If I were building an army to confront Americans I would use people who had belief and desire in their cause.

My point being, they are not training to fight a near peer power, I think they may be training to fight Americans

They need everyone to go along with the program. Dont know, just thinking out loud.

Keep thinking out loud. Your thoughts are near identical to mine....

 

[spat]

It is funny.

He in the US, this is what is a concerning thing.

So many other Nations are overrunning their corrupt governements.

Glad our issues are so small.

Small problems can turn into very very large ones if they are not dealt with.

The US is the key stone holding all of civilization together (much as Rome was in it's day).

We have enemies who want to take that place (mostly China). I am sure they are cultivating this insanity in an attempt to weaken us.

If they succeed it is likely to plunge the world into chaos.

They would certainly not be the benevolent superpower that we are.

When Rome fell the next few centuries were called "the dark ages" for a reason.

That's probably a best case scenario. One where China manages to take over would likely be even worse.

 

[repete]

I'm sure china is watching and taking notes and damn sure the Chinese troops are being shown all this stuff and getting the impression that America is nothing but a paper tiger.

 

[holdover]

Small problems can turn into very very large ones if they are not dealt with.

The US is the key stone holding all of civilization together (much as Rome was in it's day).

We have enemies who want to take that place (mostly China). I am sure they are cultivating this insanity in an attempt to weaken us.

If they succeed it is likely to plunge the world into chaos.

They would certainly not be the benevolent superpower that we are.

When Rome fell the next few centuries were called "the dark ages" for a reason.

That's probably a best case scenario. One where China manages to take over would likely be even worse.

Im betting they have already bought off a lot of politicians. Bidens dropping the tarriffs, giving huge amounts of arms and money to Ukraine . Hell, a few years ago there were schools in the US called Confucius centers . Over 3 million Chinese have immigrated to Canada.