Voting Absentee AND In-Person

[Catskillkid]

A person I know posted on Facebook today showing off her and her family's absentee ballots that they were mailing in (they're totally voting for Biden but that's besides the point). They also stated that they plan on voting in person too stating that NYS election law allows for it. Apparently, if you cast an absentee ballot and then go vote in-person they take the in-person vote and dismiss the absentee ballot.

I didn't believe this could be true but I went to the NYS Board of Elections website and sure enough it is.

Absentee Voting | New York State Board of Elections

It states:
You Can Still Vote in Person if You Request an Absentee Ballot

Even if you request or cast and return an absentee ballot, you may still go to the polls and vote in person. The Election Law recognizes that plans change. The Board of Elections is required to check the poll book before canvassing any absentee ballot. If the voter comes to the poll site, on Election Day or during early voting and votes in person, the absentee ballot is set aside and not counted.

I'm sorry, but I highly doubt that all of the absentee ballots are going to be properly dismissed. This is nothing short of voter fraud if you ask me.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

That is horse shit. What happens when the # of votes exceeds the # of registered voters in MANY districts this Nov? Do they scrap the entire thing and just turn it over to the house and court? 2020 may be remembered as humdrum with whats ahead.

 

[spat]

A person I know posted on Facebook today showing off her and her family's absentee ballots that they were mailing in (they're totally voting for Biden but that's besides the point). They also stated that they plan on voting in person too stating that NYS election law allows for it. Apparently, if you cast an absentee ballot and then go vote in-person they take the in-person vote and dismiss the absentee ballot.

I didn't believe this could be true but I went to the NYS Board of Elections website and sure enough it is.

Absentee Voting | New York State Board of Elections

It states:
You Can Still Vote in Person if You Request an Absentee Ballot

Even if you request or cast and return an absentee ballot, you may still go to the polls and vote in person. The Election Law recognizes that plans change. The Board of Elections is required to check the poll book before canvassing any absentee ballot. If the voter comes to the poll site, on Election Day or during early voting and votes in person, the absentee ballot is set aside and not counted.

I'm sorry, but I highly doubt that all of the absentee ballots are going to be properly dismissed. This is nothing short of voter fraud if you ask me.

Well, if that's what they're doing, we better all do it too.

I bet the duplicate ballots are properly discarded in Republican districts and not so much in Democrat districts though.

Still, can't hurt to try.

 

[Criticalt]

This election is absolutely, positively, 100% going to be fraudulent on the Democrat side......unquestionably fraudulent.
Not even so they can win. They just want to disrupt the election to muddy the waters so much that they can say Trump is at fault.
During and after the Rusdian hoax investigation there was sooooo much absolute proof that the dems....Adam Shiff and company......were lying daily, about everything. Actual quotes from court show that NONE of them had ANY proof of Russian collusion yet Shiff literally said "we have concrete PROOF that Trump colluded with Russia", he said this dozens of times on every major news outlet....even Fox however, in court and congress, he said he never saw any proof. This happened
With every hoaxer....loretta Lynch, James Comey, Struck......they ALL made their rounds saying they had MASSIVE PROOF of Trump guilt....but under oath, they ALL admitted they had ZERO proof EVER. This is treason plain and simple.
My point is, they will stop at nothing, they even say this, " at all cost".
Even before Trump was elected in 2016, Shiff and Pelosi actually said they were looking at possible impeachment of Trump.....A MONTH BEFORE THE ELECTION.

Forward to this November 3rd.
They have been viciously attacking POTUS for 4 years with everything from Russian collusion to pissing on whores.
This election is their last chance. They DO NOT want a lame duck Trump.
Look around the internet....dem voters are waiting with trembling trigger fingers to see ONE IOTA of Trump screwing with the election.
The democrat politicians know this and and have been planning this for 4 years.
They CANNOT allow Trump to win and their constituents have already said they will revolt and burn if there is ANY funny business with the election.
Democrat politicians are willing to sacrifice American lives to get Trump out, im not even exaggerating.
Anyways, yep, there will be voter fraud and our cities will burn. Good luck city folk.
Seriously, if any of you guys need it, we have alot of land to place a camper or tent if you need to get out for a period of time.

 

[BuffNiag]

Absentee Voting | New York State Board of Elections

Qualifications and voting by Absentee ballot.

www.elections.ny.gov

Even if you request or cast and return an absentee ballot, you may still go to the polls and vote in person. The Election Law recognizes that plans change. The Board of Elections is required to check the poll book before canvassing any absentee ballot. If the voter comes to the poll site, on Election Day or during early voting and votes in person, the absentee ballot is set aside and not counted.

The way I read this means the paper copies of sign in books would need to be cross referenced with the absentee ballots. I find it very hard to believe that will actually happen.

In the event that someone actually does both, is it voter fraud? “Plans change“ after all.

 

[Phazer]

Well.... we don't want to disenfranchise those who made the tiring effort to vote twice.

Count all votes!

 

[togmaster]

Vote early and vote often.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

I'm usually the first in line.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

I suspect Bidouche & Kuntmala have overlooked some key campaign venues for the upcoming election.....

 

[Saltwater60]

Yes because I trust the dumbfuck a to cross reference and not count the vote twice. Well fuck I’ll vote twice then too. I’ll mail it in and then go do it in person. I get time off to vote anyway.

 

[Phauxtoe]

I work as an election official, been doing it for a few years. I will say in NY, everything is done (specially important shit) by a member of both parties.
Could there be cheating, absolutely!
But i dont think they can tell how you voted, but the absentee vote does get flagged and it happens with both parties.

 

[masterswimmer]

But i dont think they can tell how you voted, but the absentee vote does get flagged and it happens with both parties.

In Orange County the in-person voting can easily be identified to who you voted for, 100%. No doubt about it. I can't speak to other counties since I don't vote there.

In Orange, when you go to vote you are searched in their registration log. When they identify you are registered to vote you then autograph their log, and next to your signature they write in a number that corresponds to the number on your ballot barcode.

You then go to a screened in table where you can fill in your ballot. Once completed you take your ballot to the voting machine and insert the ballot into the reader. Your vote is then cast. The ballot itself is inside the machine with the identifying number matching the one next to your name in the registration book.

How can anyone, at least in Orange County, claim that voting is done with a secret ballot? That's ludicrous!

 

[Phauxtoe]

Secret ballot is different than zero paper trail.
I want a paper trail!
Otherwise cheating would be easy.
your voting history is not available to be looked into easily.
Absentee ballots are supposedly counted last, after the All the in person votes are accounted for.
Again, there is always a Republican and a Democrat working together to perform all duties. Conspiracies happen, the world is not perfect.

Hell i think only Tax payers should vote. Welfare or public assistance people, no voting until you are net positive.

 

[masterswimmer]

But i dont think they can tell how you voted, but the absentee vote does get flagged and it happens with both parties.

Otherwise cheating would be easy.
your voting history is not available to be looked into easily.

Your voting history is incredibly easy to look into if you are on the election committee.

 

[Phauxtoe]

Your voting history is incredibly easy to look into if you are on the election committee.

Again, Its not just one party involved.
If you think there is an issue, do what i did, get involved!
Take the classes, work in the system!

 

[spat]

I work as an election official, been doing it for a few years. I will say in NY, everything is done (specially important shit) by a member of both parties.
Could there be cheating, absolutely!
But i dont think they can tell how you voted, but the absentee vote does get flagged and it happens with both parties.

They can't tell how an individual ballot was cast. But most precincts heavily favor one candidate or another.

So, some mail carrier with a severe case of TDS sees a ballot from a heavily red precinct and decides it needs to disappear.

He does that 100 times, and maybe he tossed 20 Biden ballots, but probably 80 Trump ones.

You don’t need to know the answer with certainty, you just need a probabilistic approach.

 

[masterswimmer]

Again, Its not just one party involved.
If you think there is an issue, do what i did, get involved!
Take the classes, work in the system!

What I'm saying is, there is no way anyone can convince me that we cast secret ballots. Once they enter a crossreferencing number next to your name on the registry they can identify your vote if they choose to do so.

 

[Acer-m14]

ahhh the good old days ...

 

[Jsmegs77]

Sent to me by a friend. Thought it relevant, FB is so full of themselves with this fact checking nonsense.

 

[pramaglia]

I requested an absentee ballot for my 91 year old mother and a week after she mailed it in she received another one in her mail. This election is going to be a mess.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

I think it will be a bigger mess than people imagine.

Contingent election - Wikipedia

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[spat]

I think it will be a bigger mess than people imagine.

Contingent election - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That won't happen.

No way there is a tie in the electoral college.

And no way they allow a states electoral votes to go un-cast.

It will be a shit show, for sure, but every electoral vote will be cast by every state. The fight will be over who gets them.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

But it would be amazing if it did.

 

[masterswimmer]

That won't happen.

No way there is a tie in the electoral college.

And no way they allow a states electoral votes to go un-cast.

It will be a shit show, for sure, but every electoral vote will be cast by every state. The fight will be over who gets them.

Agree with your first part about no chance for a tie.

The shit show on the other hand will be mail in ballot related. They (the Dems) already said Trump can win on election night by a landslide, but that can be changed maybe days, weeks or months later when all the mail in ballots are counted. Sure sounds like a scenario whereby mail in ballots will magically appear in precincts as needed.

Oh the shit storm is a brewing all right. This will be epic and most likely life changing for all.

 

[spat]

Agree with your first part about no chance for a tie.

The shit show on the other hand will be mail in ballot related. They (the Dems) already said Trump can win on election night by a landslide, but that can be changed maybe days, weeks or months later when all the mail in ballots are counted. Sure sounds like a scenario whereby mail in ballots will magically appear in precincts as needed.

Oh the shit storm is a brewing all right. This will be epic and most likely life changing for all.

Yes, there will be an immense amount of shenanigans going on with the people's votes.

But the electors will all vote and all be counted properly.

The question is whether the correct electors will be voting.

The only way the house would get involved would be if some *electors* votes weren't being counted. That I do not see happening.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

The house, senate, and SCOTUS will be involved. I am willing to bet on it.

I hope we end up with two presidents again, and pelosi even gets her moment of glory.

 

[masterswimmer]

Yes, there will be an immense amount of shenanigans going on with the people's votes.

But the electors will all vote and all be counted properly.

The question is whether the correct electors will be voting.

The only way the house would get involved would be if some *electors* votes weren't being counted. That I do not see happening.

Oh I don't doubt that the electors will all vote. However, the electors votes are supposed to be bound to, and congruous with the popular vote from their districts.

If the popular vote is tampered with, ie the mail in votes, then the electors votes would potentially be skewed to the tampering party.

 

[spat]

Oh I don't doubt that the electors will all vote. However, the electors votes are supposed to be bound to, and congruous with the popular vote from their districts.

If the popular vote is tampered with, ie the mail in votes, then the electors votes would potentially be skewed to the tampering party.

I absolutely believe *that* will happen.

But that isn’t enough to let the house of representatives to decide the election.

 

[Defilade]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/08/22/mail-in-voting-civil-war-election-conspiracy-lincoln/