BMF JK
.44 mag
Your correct .
I was referring to the moral standards of some people.
Woman detained for wearing a bikini - Myrtle Beach, SC police Department
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I was referring to the moral standards of some people.
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
who makes these laws and "ordinances" anyway? Who is behind all this? they cover nipples so the kids cannot see
them but then watching a Hollywood movie with some crazy thug disemboweling someone that is ok for them to watch.
So many puritans and absurd BS.
These chicks instead of arguing with the police they should come along and fight this legally and seek support and funds to take down such stupid draconian laws so the police can be available to go after actual crime and criminals.
The police can be nicer or not but the real problem is the legislation system that is totally out of control.
we are literally legislating ourselves out of existence.
them but then watching a Hollywood movie with some crazy thug disemboweling someone that is ok for them to watch.
So many puritans and absurd BS.
These chicks instead of arguing with the police they should come along and fight this legally and seek support and funds to take down such stupid draconian laws so the police can be available to go after actual crime and criminals.
The police can be nicer or not but the real problem is the legislation system that is totally out of control.
we are literally legislating ourselves out of existence.
spat
.950 JDJ
There is no law against thongs there.
Those officers literally made it up on the spot. No legislation required.
No one in that video claimed the thongs are illegal. The dispute was about what constitutes a nudity, which is presumably banned on that beach. Exposed ass with a string wedged in the crack is still exposed ass. Just because such wear is promoted as acceptable, doesn't change the facts of the matter.
Kind of stepping down from the "they don't make the rules, they just enforce them" nonsense isn't it?
Just because the public is being suckered into accepting what used to be a taboo, doesn't mean the "rules" are bad or it's wring to enforce them.
You can't be "suckered in" to something you haven't even demonstrated is "bad."
Go outside on the hottest day of the year and all of the people you see will still cover up their rear end.
Yeah. Women should have to go back to wearing FULL clothing. Ankles are the gateway to sin, after all, and Heaven forbid that an arm be seen in public.
In fact, women should have to wear outer garments that cover everything but the eyes, to prevent their ability to distract men away from the Lord and into sin.
/sarcasm
Seriously...this kind of shit was old before you were even born. Women have successfully fought against the overbearing Victorian-era prudishness you are demonstrating. do you really want to turn back time to when women were property?
For the record butt cheeks do not equal nude. If you don't like them, then don't look. If you can't control yourself, then remove yourself from society. If it "offends your religion", well tough shit.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
It is a whole new world out there folks .
Was on a grand jury and an early 20 's male sent one to a 14 year old ,, He is in prison now we think... But what was taken away from the case .. Most girls today are asked for a nude photo from boys they both know and don't know and many have had "questionable photos sent to them..
Not uncommon for an early teen to have received one and photos are passed around like crazy...Perhaps not nudes but thong photos ... All the time .
Back in my time the best day of the year was the boy scout paper drive .. .. Playboys never made it to the collection center .. Today it is sexting.in high school. even middle school. . The woman that complains about a thong that her 14 year old son sees on the beach has not a clue what he has on his cell phone . ..
Was on a grand jury and an early 20 's male sent one to a 14 year old ,, He is in prison now we think... But what was taken away from the case .. Most girls today are asked for a nude photo from boys they both know and don't know and many have had "questionable photos sent to them..
Not uncommon for an early teen to have received one and photos are passed around like crazy...Perhaps not nudes but thong photos ... All the time .
Back in my time the best day of the year was the boy scout paper drive .. .. Playboys never made it to the collection center .. Today it is sexting.in high school. even middle school. . The woman that complains about a thong that her 14 year old son sees on the beach has not a clue what he has on his cell phone . ..
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
If I'm at the beach and don't want to see a fat sweaty dude's hairy tits should I call the police or?
One extreme doesn't justify another. I am not standing on the street corner with a loud speaker telling people to cover their asses. They do that on their own.
Maybe people should go around exposing themselves, because God forbid some idiot will think they are too Victorian or religious.
Not everything in life has a sexual connotation. Not all rear ends would be desirable for men to see. Most aren't, so there are other then sexual reasons people cover themselves. Your one-track mind somehow missed that.
Tough, you have to bare with it, but you don't have to see more of his repulsive body.
spat
.950 JDJ
What you do or do not find immoral has no bearing on what someone else should be allowed to do in public.
Personally I find the actions of these officers far more immoral than her ass cheeks.
Likewise what you "don't want to see" is irrelevant.
There are a lot of things I would prefer not to see on s beach less (or even a child to see) than her ass. But that doesn't mean I can tell a land whale she needs to leave.
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
Ah. So if the woman in the video was wearing a thong but up top was wearing a normal t-shirt it would be all good. Got it. Thanks.
Not true.
See: This thread.
And I'm a bad example. I typically have my have buried in one.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
While you are correct in one sense but would you do something that your boss told you to do was morally wrong or illegal?
Also keep in mind that first cop was a dick. Maybe she was horrible to him and acted like a moron but we will never know because of the timing of the video start time.
I think most don’t blame them for enforcing the law it was how the first interaction went. All they would have to do is say look we received a complaint about the way your dressed and here’s what we need you to do going forward. Here’s the penal code and you can read it for yourself. Any questions? Then clarify if there were questions.
I enforce government regulations on food businesses and this is how I handle it. I find it’s 100% effective because laws/regulations are generally written very vague. The person in the beach is right where does it stop and what is ok and what isn’t? I’m sure partly they were being jerks but they wanted to know what they could and couldn’t do same as the people I regulate. They just want to comply 99% of the time. The first cop failed at that miserable. Also the fact about Speedo’s was completely ignored. I do believe they got a complaint but I also believe they went to this beach dressed like that numerous times before and that other cops walked by them earlier and said nothing. This is why laws can’t be picked and chosen but laws like this often are because there’s not victim to speak of.
But yes overall I will agree they were just following orders but what if those orders include kicking down your door because you’re a gun owner to remove said doors? Would you be on here complaining then?
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I agree at some point it’s just about decency and respect for others. Also some people don’t want their children seeing these things. Is there a point to go too far on both sides yes. If you want to see naked women google that shit or go indoors or to a nudist colony. Naked people don’t belong on the public streets or places.
Was she naked no? But I’m guessing and from watching the video you couldn’t see the string in between her butt cheeks so is there a difference? I guess technically yes but have some common decency. A butt Cheek is nudit
Now do I enjoy women’s naked bits heck yeah. Nothing better than seeing my wife drop her clothes at night even after 18 years of marriage. I’m I a prude Puritan no. This is about decency and respect for those around you something we have completely lost.
while I do agree they handled it poorly.
I don't establish the norms for public decency, they already exist. By the same token it's not your place to erase them.
Doc8404
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Who established them?
Was it the people that said weapons of war have no place on our streets?
Why am I not the one to erase them? Isn't it our duty to erase outdated laws?
So if I don't want my child to see "Trump 2020, No More Bullshit!", it should come down?
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I said at some point. I don’t make up or know what that point is. I never even said this girl passed that point. It’s hard to describe what that point is and it’s different for everyone. I’m sure this is an attempt to make all feel welcome at the beach.
My point being that people shouldn’t be able to just walk around naked or do as they please because it seems ok to them. We have laws for a reason(at times) because not everyone feels the same.
I’ll admit this ones a slippery slope and very borderline to me. I also agree that the questions she asked should have been answered. What is it isn’t acceptable. They weren’t.
spat
.950 JDJ
No individual or government can change the norms of public decency, they are an organic development of the collective wishes of society.
There are a lot of things that are widely considered indecent but also widely acknowledged shouldn't be illegal.
At the same time, the government has no business enforcing public decency at all.
The organic development of collective wishes of the society is for people to cover their rear ends in public. If there is no power of the government behind it, then these are just empty words.
Elwood
.223 Rem
so a woman in a thong at the beach with a nicely sculpted ass is taboo but this is ok ?
spat
.950 JDJ
Social pressure is far from empty words. It tends to be more effective than law actually.
When was the last time you heard a white guy use the N word ? It's not illegal, but the social pressure is enormous.
There are very very few things that should have the power of government behind them. Regulating personal expression is absolutely not one of them.
@thewheels
.308 Win
^^^This^^^
Public places (beaches included) in many other parts of the world have far more exposed flesh for all to see.
And nobody in those societies finds it indecent, offensive or even sees it as signal of a moral spiral. It's not even a blip on their moral or ethical radar.
If she can show her ass in public, so can he. Enjoy.