Worthless New York State Ammo Regulations

[The weasel]

Welcome to the Party Pal!
Sad part is not only did you not get your ammunition, but now your personal information is in hands with limited control and no accountability, and if they actually entered the information, then now the State and Tyler Industries has all your information including that you use ,223 Ammunition in some sort of gun...Did they collect the processing fee from you?

No fee was collected.

 

[Jcp123]

If you’re in need of a vacation, we got plenty of ammo down in Texas. Come get some!

It’s expensive though. $40 for Remington green and white box .38+p?! Guess that’s the going rate for “no questions asked, no records kept”.

 

[Cattafly]

I never filled anything out at sportsmens warehouse, they charged me the fee anyway. I saw them recording the lot number on the boxes of ammo i was about to buy in their computor. When i saw them gathering the lot number, i questioned why, they told me it was for the ammo background check. I instantly told them to shove that ammo right straight up their asses. I paid for my other stuff and left. I then noticed the charge on the receipt after i got home. I still haven`t been able to get my money back yet. My next step is to have my lawyer send SW corporate a letter of notification of a incoming lawsuit against them. I know that the ammo BGC fee is small, but that`s NOT the point of it.

Have i mentioned PHUCK YOU NEW YORK TYRANTS lately?

You say NY tyrants but your whole comment was aimed at the FFL complying with the law. Are you going to have your lawyer send a letter to the NY tyrants notifying them of an incoming lawsuit, I bet not. That's the problem, we as gun owners bitch to ourselves and ffl's but don't take 2 minutes to bitch at their representatives directly. I personally contact the governor by email or phone call at least once a month but I'm one of the few when there are millions who just bitch to the choir. A store employee is just doing their job and has to constantly listen to the bitching, I'll keep bitching to those that made the law, will you?

 

[The weasel]

You say NY tyrants but your whole comment was aimed at the FFL complying with the law. Are you going to have your lawyer send a letter to the NY tyrants notifying them of an incoming lawsuit, I bet not. That's the problem, we as gun owners bitch to ourselves and ffl's but don't take 2 minutes to bitch at their representatives directly. I personally contact the governor by email or phone call at least once a month but I'm one of the few when there are millions who just bitch to the choir. A store employee is just doing their job and has to constantly listen to the bitching, I'll keep bitching to those that made the law, will you?

Your incorrect my friend 1. I never said tyrants, I could have come up with a rotten name for them if I choose to but just remember everything you say can come back to haunt you, always keep your cards close to your vest. 2.The FFL didn't bring about the NYS ammo regulations, the NYS senate and assembly did, and the Govenor signed it into law.

 

[FP1201]

You say NY tyrants but your whole comment was aimed at the FFL complying with the law. Are you going to have your lawyer send a letter to the NY tyrants notifying them of an incoming lawsuit, I bet not. That's the problem, we as gun owners bitch to ourselves and ffl's but don't take 2 minutes to bitch at their representatives directly. I personally contact the governor by email or phone call at least once a month but I'm one of the few when there are millions who just bitch to the choir. A store employee is just doing their job and has to constantly listen to the bitching, I'll keep bitching to those that made the law, will you?

We as Gun Owners, Hunters, Collectors, etc. like two other things besides out Guns: Bitching and Sitting on our asses....ironically the moon-bat leftists actually do something.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

You say NY tyrants but your whole comment was aimed at the FFL complying with the law. Are you going to have your lawyer send a letter to the NY tyrants notifying them of an incoming lawsuit, I bet not. That's the problem, we as gun owners bitch to ourselves and ffl's but don't take 2 minutes to bitch at their representatives directly. I personally contact the governor by email or phone call at least once a month but I'm one of the few when there are millions who just bitch to the choir. A store employee is just doing their job and has to constantly listen to the bitching, I'll keep bitching to those that made the law, will you?

A typical....the type who now start to give a sh!t when its to late.
You have no phucking idea how many YEARS and DECADES i`ve worked so phucking hard, contacting, talking, trying to get people motivated. It all fell on deaf ears. Nobody gave a phuck about anything, for DECADES! So go sit in your corner and squabble your nonsense to somebody who gives a sh!t. Good for YOU, if you`re doing something about it. But i`ll tell you GOOD LUCK WITH IT, too!

Funny how sh!t seems one sided all the phuckin time when people don`t agree with something truthful. Americans deserve to loose their gun rights. They never gave a sh!t about them until it was to late. As i said, GOOD LUCK!

 

[Cattafly]

A typical....the type who now start to give a sh!t when its to late.
You have no phucking idea how many YEARS and DECADES i`ve worked so phucking hard, contacting, talking, trying to get people motivated. It all fell on deaf ears. Nobody gave a phuck about anything, for DECADES! So go sit in your corner and squabble your nonsense to somebody who gives a sh!t. Good for YOU, if you`re doing something about it. But i`ll tell you GOOD LUCK WITH IT, too!

Funny how sh!t seems one sided all the phuckin time when people don`t agree with something truthful. Americans deserve to loose their gun rights. They never gave a sh!t about them until it was to late. As i said, GOOD LUCK!

Look, I'm 72 years old and have been preaching how we are are own worst enemy for probably longer than you've been alive. Don't tell me I have no "phucking idea" about anything. Maybe you should go sit in a corner as you have no idea what you have no experience in. I deal with it everyday but you want to put the blame on some poor schmo trying to make a living. As I asked, is your lawyer going after the governor on your behalf? Yea, deaf ears but if the gun owners of this state were as vocal as other groups we may be heard. Now personally, I don't care if you give a shit or not. Good luck with being an ass, too!

 

[Cattafly]

Your incorrect my friend 1. I never said tyrants, I could have come up with a rotten name for them if I choose to but just remember everything you say can come back to haunt you, always keep your cards close to your vest. 2.The FFL didn't bring about the NYS ammo regulations, the NYS senate and assembly did, and the Govenor signed it into law.

Wasn't replying to you. I know who caused this mess. What did I say that could come back to haunt me?

 

[JunkBoxFull]

Look, I'm 72 years old and have been preaching how we are are own worst enemy for probably longer than you've been alive. Don't tell me I have no "phucking idea" about anything. Maybe you should go sit in a corner as you have no idea what you have no experience in. I deal with it everyday but you want to put the blame on some poor schmo trying to make a living. As I asked, is your lawyer going after the governor on your behalf? Yea, deaf ears but if the gun owners of this state were as vocal as other groups we may be heard. Now personally, I don't care if you give a shit or not. Good luck with being an ass, too!

I`m in my 70`s too, and you`re right about one thing.... >>> i DON`T give a sh!t. I`m done preaching to people and trying to help save our rights. To many wasted years and decades with phucking morons who wouldn`t listen to the warnings that in our future, we would be in very deep sh!t. And here we are. I`m just that asshole who rubs peoples noses in their own sh!t when its THEIR sh!t they created. So there`s that! Like it, or not. Sometimes you just get what you asked for.

Your quote: "Good luck with being an ass, too!" My give a phuck button broke!

 

[Cattafly]

I`m in my 70`s too, and you`re right about one thing.... >>> i DON`T give a sh!t. I`m done preaching to people and trying to help save our rights. To many wasted years and decades with phucking morons who wouldn`t listen to the warnings that in our future, we would be in very deep sh!t. And here we are. I`m just that asshole who rubs peoples noses in their own sh!t when its THEIR sh!t they created. So there`s that! Like it, or not. Sometimes you just get what you asked for.

Your quote: "Good luck with being an ass, too!" My give a phuck button broke!

I can agree with all of that but I'm just a crusty old man who, if I don't agree with someone especially a politician, I go right to the source and let them know. After 70+ years it is your right to not want to give a "phuck" anymore, but your original post said you were pissed at a store for following the law. They don't make the laws politicians do. By the way, there is no official form for ammo, each ffl can make their own form or they can just "interrogate" you while doing the background check. Unlike numerous special interest groups that rally constantly, we the gun owners are our own worst enemy. Unlike you, I have kids and grandkids who like to hunt and shoot and as long as I'm alive I will try my best to do whatever I can to make their future better no matter how futile my efforts.

 

[Saltwater60]

You say NY tyrants but your whole comment was aimed at the FFL complying with the law. Are you going to have your lawyer send a letter to the NY tyrants notifying them of an incoming lawsuit, I bet not. That's the problem, we as gun owners bitch to ourselves and ffl's but don't take 2 minutes to bitch at their representatives directly. I personally contact the governor by email or phone call at least once a month but I'm one of the few when there are millions who just bitch to the choir. A store employee is just doing their job and has to constantly listen to the bitching, I'll keep bitching to those that made the law, will you?

Not being a jerk here but a lot of good that’s doing. I don’t even get responses back from mine anymore so I’ve stopped or they flat out lie to me. Your plan is a failure and again I mean no offense to you.

 

[Cattafly]

Not being a jerk here but a lot of good that’s doing. I don’t even get responses back from mine anymore so I’ve stopped or they flat out lie to me. Your plan is a failure and again I mean no offense to you.

You are correct, and that is their plan. Ignore us and we will eventually just go away. Gun owners are their own worst enemy. By the way, I'm old and have taken criticism my whole life for my opinions and it doesn't bother me at all when others disagree.

 

[The weasel]

I can agree with all of that but I'm just a crusty old man who, if I don't agree with someone especially a politician, I go right to the source and let them know. After 70+ years it is your right to not want to give a "phuck" anymore, but your original post said you were pissed at a store for following the law. They don't make the laws politicians do. By the way, there is no official form for ammo, each ffl can make their own form or they can just "interrogate" you while doing the background check. Unlike numerous special interest groups that rally constantly, we the gun owners are our own worst enemy. Unlike you, I have kids and grandkids who like to hunt and shoot and as long as I'm alive I will try my best to do whatever I can to make their future better no matter how futile my efforts.

I am going on 73 so tell me more! Until America wakes up, this crap will continue. The good olde days were not always so good unless you were a WASP, which I was !

 

[Cattafly]

I am going on 73 so tell me more! Until America wakes up, this crap will continue. The good olde days were not always so good unless you were a WASP, which I was !

I also am going on 73 and our OPINIONS are just that, opinions. America will never wake up as long as people have a I don't give a .... attitude. I really don't care what you were but now it seems you are defeated.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

Not being a jerk here but a lot of good that’s doing. I don’t even get responses back from mine anymore so I’ve stopped or they flat out lie to me. Your plan is a failure and again I mean no offense to you.

THIS ^^^^^

 

[JunkBoxFull]

I also am going on 73 and our OPINIONS are just that, opinions. America will never wake up as long as people have a I don't give a .... attitude. I really don't care what you were but now it seems you are defeated.

LOL, yeah yeahhh yeahhhhhh, yasssssss, keep talking, if you think its going to fix anything. I`ve seen what talking has done for me for that past 50+ years. Hell more than half of the gun owners out there aren`t even registered to vote. And guess what ole boy, you ain`t gonna make them vote, either. The gun culture is a dieing breed, because so many refuse to listen and take action....that`s just the god damn truth, like or not. We are outnumbered, whether you like, or believe it, or not. I don`t care how many guns they sell, nore how many more people that own them today. If they ain`t voting, it ain`t never gonna make a difference in fixing the problem. We`ve got a people problem, not a gun rights problem. To many stupid people sittin on their lazy asses. Ya know what they say though..... don`t know whatcha got until its gone. We are already there.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

For every 100 new gun laws installed, maybe with a tiny spec of luck, ONE, gets removed. Pretty bad odds.

Death by a thousand cuts! Believe it!

 

[Saltwater60]

You are correct, and that is their plan. Ignore us and we will eventually just go away. Gun owners are their own worst enemy. By the way, I'm old and have taken criticism my whole life for my opinions and it doesn't bother me at all when others disagree.

To be fair outside of NYC my rep is probably one of the most liberal in the state

 

[Robin]

People split hairs while they shave us bald.
Robin

 

[Willyone]

People split hairs while they shave us bald.
Robin

Day-um... So true, bullseye

 

[spat]

I've always wondered: do federal laws apply? Or can you just straight have a belt fed machine gun on the Rez?

Legally reservations are similar to states.

They have to follow the federal laws, but they get to make their own state level one.

So, NYS law and federal law should apply on the reservation as much as it does in PA.

In practice that gets a bit blurry, they aren't quite as independent from the states they are in as they should be.

 

[ManualF150]

I reload. Been reloading for a long time.

I know how to reload 22LR if I needed to.

If I want fresh brass, I just go to PA.

 

[REF]

I was in my LGS Saturday. It was right around 2Pm. There was a man sitting on a bench in the middle of the store since the doors opened at 10 am waiting for permission to take home his 2 boxes of 17hmr. He was still there at 4:15 when I came back to get something I forgot earlier. I told him Vermont and NH are only an hour away. He could have drove there and back 3 times. I’m not sure he ever got his ammo. Absolute ridiculousness

 

[Robin]

FUKH!
Robin

 

[pshift]

Just drive to PA ...

 

[Podmonkey]

Just drive to PA ...

I walked into my LGS on a whim, bought 100 rounds of .357, paid and walked out. Took less than 5 minutes.

 

[Willyone]

I was in my LGS Saturday. It was right around 2Pm. There was a man sitting on a bench in the middle of the store since the doors opened at 10 am waiting for permission to take home his 2 boxes of 17hmr. He was still there at 4:15 when I came back to get something I forgot earlier. I told him Vermont and NH are only an hour away. He could have drove there and back 3 times. I’m not sure he ever got his ammo. Absolute ridiculousness

The most ridiculous thing is that he was dumb enough to sit there all day waiting. WTH would anyone do that, especially when ammo is only an hour away?

 

[Zeman69]

Friday the 27th of September, I stopped by the Bass Pro Shop in Auburn NY and begrudgingly filled out ammo purchase form for a box of Barnes .223 copper bullets for the upcoming deer season. After filling out the BS form, I was then told by Bass pro employee that my request was on hold, and I would have to wait a one hour to one day, to which I replied BS forget it, I have people to see and things to do. Our State at Its Best!

They did that to my buddy, 2 trips up to glens falls. They just are timing out permits and applications . Supposed to work for the taxpayers,, what few of us are left.

 

[REF]

The most ridiculous thing is that he was dumb enough to sit there all day waiting. WTH would anyone do that, especially when ammo is only an hour away?

That was my point

 

[PA Guns & Ammo]

What is this ammo background check thing you speak of? Is it to see who is behind you in line when you are buying ammo?