State legislature won't accept SCOTUS ruling

[gunpoliticsny]

New bill A-8684, Prohibits firearms in certain locations, including but not limited to all forms of public transportation, large gatherings, and food and drink establishments:

(a) Any form of public transportation, including but not limited to
13 railroads, ride sharing services, paratransit services, subways, buses,
14 air travel, taxis or any other public transportation service;
15 (b) Food and drink establishments; or
16 (c) Large gatherings, which for the purposes of this section shall
17 mean a gathering together of fifteen or more persons for amusement,
18 athletic, civic, dining, educational, entertainment, patriotic, poli-
19 tical, recreational, religious, social, or similar purposes.

 

[MothMan]

So does the legislature think SCOTUS will decide against "proper cause" and are making it illegal to carry a firearm anywhere? Won't stop me!

 

[MothMan]

At our 4th of July parties where we have 30 - 50 people gather socially at mine or my sons house I can't carry my pistol on my own property or house where the 2nd is at its "zenith". Ain't going to stop me. Legislative back door to infringe on gun owners to hide their embarrassment for getting bitch slapped by SCOTUS. Just telling the bad guys where the sheep will be disarmed.

 

[Cavalry]

Another well written bill that does nothing to actually reduce crime. No exemption for the home, so I guess Christmas dinner I would have to throw all the guns on the front lawn?

 

[MothMan]

Still time to register as a Democrat voter.

 

[MothMan]

Another well written bill that does nothing to actually reduce crime. No exemption for the home, so I guess Christmas dinner I would have to throw all the guns on the front lawn?

Nope since you can't carry your gun, IT WILL HAVE TO BE LOCKED UP!!

 

[Cooolone]

New bill A-8684, Prohibits firearms in certain locations, including but not limited to all forms of public transportation, large gatherings, and food and drink establishments:

(a) Any form of public transportation, including but not limited to
13 railroads, ride sharing services, paratransit services, subways, buses,
14 air travel, taxis or any other public transportation service;
15 (b) Food and drink establishments; or
16 (c) Large gatherings, which for the purposes of this section shall
17 mean a gathering together of fifteen or more persons for amusement,
18 athletic, civic, dining, educational, entertainment, patriotic, poli-
19 tical, recreational, religious, social, or similar purposes.

Pre-emptive strike against the coming SCOTUS rebuke of NY political malfeasance towards it's residents in regard to 2A!

Enforcement is entirely another conversation... But the fact that this type of legislation is even being introduced should be considered and factored into he decision!

So, the State is basically saying ok, SCOTUS is going to create a Shall Issue environment, but won't prevent States from regulating the possession as long as it doesn't prevent it... As the questioning in the case exhibited, or, subways... So the State will preemptively strike by limiting where, when, how you might possibly legally be in possession! The State knowingly laughing that to challenge the law, it will take years, and years more, if even ever it would go before SCOTUS! This type of malfeasance it s what the SCOTUS is there to prevent, yet, being without TEETH, is powerless to do! These states and their anti 2A fevor, will never surrender!

 

[Saltwater60]

So I could essentially carry my gun to and from my house when going to a small business and that’s about it.
Any gathering of over 15 people for any reason at all, o mean damn I have parties bigger than that. Puts people in a tough spot honestly.

 

[kev74]

The more of this stupid shit they do, the less I need to comply.

 

[Saltwater60]

So I could essentially carry my gun to and from my house when going to a small business and that’s about it.
Any gathering of over 15 people for any reason at all, o mean damn I have parties bigger than that.

 

[pshift]

Let them try and enforce it while legally carrying anywhere in NYS. As long as I'm not comitting a felony, maybe they will just issue a ticket?

 

[kev74]

Let them try and enforce it while legally carrying anywhere in NYS. As long as I'm not comitting a felony, maybe they will just issue a ticket?

They might make you go to a Mets game - cruel and unusual punishment!!!

 

[prambo]

They can ESAD.

Fucking dickless POG-ass douchebags.

 

[Uzi]

Let them try and enforce it while legally carrying anywhere in NYS. As long as I'm not comitting a felony, maybe they will just issue a ticket?

Oh, I don't think so.

These are the kinds of bills/laws that law enforcement get raging erections over. What's better than the power of knowing you can enforce unconstitutional laws with the threat of imprisonment, violence and death to an even higher degree?

Too many forget that like jaywalking, none of this kind of tyrannic shit would ever matter if it weren't being enforced. Lets forget about all that though and pretend it isn't a major issue. Lets work to protect the criminals and the mentally insane looking to actually do harm in large crowds and other establishments with people instead.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I see I have something in common with the state legislature. I won't accept their rules.

I
Don't
Care
Anymore

Is it 2.5 years yet?

 

[Steal2B]

New bill A-8684, Prohibits firearms in certain locations, including but not limited to all forms of public transportation, large gatherings, and food and drink establishments:

(a) Any form of public transportation, including but not limited to
13 railroads, ride sharing services, paratransit services, subways, buses,
14 air travel, taxis or any other public transportation service;
15 (b) Food and drink establishments; or
16 (c) Large gatherings, which for the purposes of this section shall
17 mean a gathering together of fifteen or more persons for amusement,
18 athletic, civic, dining, educational, entertainment, patriotic, poli-
19 tical, recreational, religious, social, or similar purposes.

So statistically, anytime one needs to conceal carry to protect one's life it would be illegal. Sure sounds, smells and looks like "infringed".

 

[Steal2B]

New bill A-8684, Prohibits firearms in certain locations, including but not limited to all forms of public transportation, large gatherings, and food and drink establishments:

(a) Any form of public transportation, including but not limited to
13 railroads, ride sharing services, paratransit services, subways, buses,
14 air travel, taxis or any other public transportation service;
15 (b) Food and drink establishments; or
16 (c) Large gatherings, which for the purposes of this section shall
17 mean a gathering together of fifteen or more persons for amusement,
18 athletic, civic, dining, educational, entertainment, patriotic, poli-
19 tical, recreational, religious, social, or similar purposes.

So this would literally make it illegal for a shooting range to have more than 14 people.

 

[libertysnake]

New bill A-8684, Prohibits firearms in certain locations, including but not limited to all forms of public transportation, large gatherings, and food and drink establishments:

(a) Any form of public transportation, including but not limited to
13 railroads, ride sharing services, paratransit services, subways, buses,
14 air travel, taxis or any other public transportation service;
15 (b) Food and drink establishments; or
16 (c) Large gatherings, which for the purposes of this section shall
17 mean a gathering together of fifteen or more persons for amusement,
18 athletic, civic, dining, educational, entertainment, patriotic, poli-
19 tical, recreational, religious, social, or similar purposes.

What about a large gathering for business?

The business of “being necessary to the security of a free state.”

 

[Modean]

Our legislators can’t understand what “right to keep and bear” means.

 

[livingston]

Our legislators can’t understand what “right to keep and bear” means.

Yes they do .... It is their mission to deny you of these rights and still stay inside of the 2nd

 

[Steal2B]

Looks like NY lawmakers saw what was happening in Philadelphia and want to proactively protect NY violent carjackers from potential prey who may be concealed carrying if going to or leaving any victim rich environment like a store, restraunt, mall, gathering, event, etc.

 

[Cavalry]

So this would literally make it illegal for a shooting range to have more than 14 people.

Also by that logic, since there is no LE exemption, The police would only be allowed to have 14 cops at the station at a time to conduct training (education). This would also limit the police from being armed at any public event.
This also means that hunter safety classes would not be able to have live fire or even a demo gun unless it was below 15 persons. Most shooting clubs around here also have a restaurant/bar, that would be a problem.
It would also prevent one from transporting a gun in a checked luggage on a plane.

This state is fucked, but this is going to die in codes as written. Its just too vague and draconian.

 

[Parzival]

Concealed is concealed, fuck them.

Unless I had to go though a metal detector, my gun came with me.

 

[Jmac00]

LOL, this is really funny shit, LOL. did the make an exception for the military, ~~~NO WAR GAMES FOR YOU~~~

 

[Pale Rider]

Also by that logic, since there is no LE exemption, The police would only be allowed to have 14 cops at the station at a time to conduct training (education). This would also limit the police from being armed at any public event.
This also means that hunter safety classes would not be able to have live fire or even a demo gun unless it was below 15 persons. Most shooting clubs around here also have a restaurant/bar, that would be a problem.
It would also prevent one from transporting a gun in a checked luggage on a plane.

This state is fucked, but this is going to die in codes as written. Its just too vague and draconian.

LEOs are covered by LEOSA, which exempts them from most State and local gun laws, including this one.

 

[Cavalry]

LEOSA

While I am sure regulating LE would never be enforced (who would even do it?). LEOSA specifically states throughout it "concealed carry". LE in uniform open carry. More messes.

Even if it stated general carry not concealed, there is also an exception in LEOSA; "This section shall not be construed to supersede or limit the laws of any State that the laws of any State to prohibit or restrict the possession of concealed firearms on their property (such as a bars, private clubs, amusement parks, etc.)"

 

[togmaster]

A gathering of 14 is fine but when that 15th shows up all hell breaks loose.

 

[Saltwater60]

Our legislators can’t understand what “right to keep and bear” means.

To them a bear is a wild animal and not allowed to be kept in NYS.

 

[Saltwater60]

Looks like NY lawmakers saw what was happening in Philadelphia and want to proactively protect NY violent carjackers from potential prey who may be concealed carrying if going to or leaving any victim rich environment like a store, restraunt, mall, gathering, event, etc.

I would say this is in direct response to the Rittenhouse trial and carrying a gun while at a protest or gathering.

 

[Saltwater60]

A gathering of 14 is fine but when that 15th shows up all hell breaks loose.

Sounds like an arbitrary number to me and a valid reason to file a lawsuit.