Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)
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gingerbread_mag
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Something else:
Trump calls Putin 'genius' and 'savvy' for Ukraine invasion
The former president's praise for Putin comes at a perilous geopolitical moment in Europe.
www.politico.com
But it's more than just that.
Trump was impeached for withholding military aid from Ukraine for political favors.
He's praised Putin on many occasions, not just this one, for tyrannical acts. Called him a "strong leader" and even congratulating Putin for "outsmarting" the U.S.
Trump dismissed Russian hacking claims in the 2016 election, which later turned out to be true (and to Trump's benefit, no less).
Trump has repeated talking points straight out of the Kremlin on the annexation of Crimea, claiming Crimeans preferred their Russian owners to their Ukrainian sovereignty.
Trump wanted to dismantle NATO, which would have befitted Putin.
Trump wanted to allow Russia into G7, which would have benefited Putin.
Trump withdrew from Open Skies AFTER HIS DEFEAT, which helped Putin.
There's quite a bit more history documenting Trump's infatuation with Putin. The man factually weakened the Western world to a Russian assault just like the one in Ukraine currently.
Bash Biden all you want, but acting as though "this wouldn't happen on Trump's watch" is such asinine horsecrap. Trump would have cheered on the invasion, most likely (as he's doing now, but as President), and let's not discount the potential that he would have taken steps to ease Putin's takeover of Ukraine.
I don't give two shits about whatever "double standard" Putin sees between U.S. condemnations of his actions, and U.S. actions in other sovereign countries. It's not right when Putin does it, and it's not right when we do it. That doesn't mean we have to sit down and shut up as Putin invades another country.
This "we did it too, so we can't criticize" is baloney. It's wrong. We should all be better, and it's righteous to stand up and tell Putin (and Bush, and Obama, and Biden) when they're being warmongering pieces of shit.
holdover
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What Linclon would do is not important. Hes not president. Joe Duechbag (El Dueche) Biden is.
Vapor
.308 Win
I get a nervous feeling.
Like I hope we don't get hit with a Chinese pearl harbor.
Like I hope we don't get hit with a Chinese pearl harbor.
prambo
.475 A&M Magnum
Don't know whether the following link can be "trusted" - they're "media", so probably not...but it's funny nonetheless.
Bernie Gores: Twitter falls for fake claims of CNN journalist's execution by Taliban in Kabul
"All of their tweets included the same photo — that of a smiling White, bald man wearing glasses. There was just one problem. A journalist named Bernie Gores, working for CNN, does not seem to exist. Although the tweets claim Bernie Gores is employed by CNN, his byline isn’t anywhere on the network’s website. What's more, the identity of Bernie Gores has been used in perpetrating other hoaxes in the past. In August 2020, the same photo pictured in the tweets was used under the same name to represent a person missing in Lebanon after a fuel explosion in Beirut."
That's funny..the bullshit is piling so high you need a Blackhawk to stay above it.
gingerbread_mag
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First of all, I don't have to stop relying on any source of information just based on your say-so. I understand what spin is, and I understand that most news agencies (politico included) have an agenda and apply their own spin. Outside of Reuters and AP, I don't see a lot of facts-only reporting.
Second, here's a short list of things Trump has never called Putin, but it's by no means exhaustive:
Dangerous
Despotic
Tyrannical
Brutal
Corrupt
Compare Trump's praise of Putin to his condemnation of Putin. Hell, see how much is out there of Trump lightly rebuking anything Putin does.
You say he knows Putin and respects him, yet he misses out on some crucial details of the man's personality. Namely, that he's a vicious warmonger who brutalizes his own people, stifles free speech and criticism, and murders political rivals. All Trump has for Putin is praise. That's not respecting someone, that's simping.
In light of Trumps unending adoration and applause for Putin, calling him a "genius" and "savvy" for his invasion tactics comes off less like "know thy enemy" and more like business as usual for a traitor who sold us out for the sake of his brand.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
Yup, the US citizens. Stay out of my yard.
I don’t know everything leading up to this but have deducted there was some shady shit going on in Ukraine before this started. NATO, UN, and certain US politicians like to put their noses where it doesn't belong. Did their nose just get broke?
NATO and the UN are propaganda arms for NWO globalist and Putin wants no part of that. Neither do I.
I'd chill getting drunk off vodka with Vlad before I'd eat ice cream with Brandon.
Russia and the fUSA are the biggest walls stopping the NWO goons.
gingerbread_mag
9mm
Or... OR... (hear me out) I gave your comment a passing glance and didn't realize it was referencing the same interview.
I made a mistake. You make mistakes. I wouldn't call you brainwashed for them.
prambo
.475 A&M Magnum
I've got a spare case of this if any one wants it...looks like this thread needs a good dose....
gingerbread_mag
9mm
It's a political thread. It's divisive, dirty, and stupid by nature. Someone disagreeing with you doesn't make them a troll.
prambo
.475 A&M Magnum
No, it doesn't have to be divisive, dirty or stupid...and most of the time on this forum, it isn't.
So, we agree to disagree.
Honestly, I haven't given a rat's ass what anyone has thought of me or my opinion in decades...and I still don't.
gingerbread_mag
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When 99% of the (politics) forum is patting each other on the back for being smarty pants and sharing memes about Biden, yeah I'd imagine most of your political conversations are pretty tame.
For shits'n'giggles, find any random and absurd non-GOP talking point and post it in here under a new username. See how quickly it stops being a happy, welcoming place.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
Coming from the crook who was laundering money in Ukraine and throwing his power around to get his little boy and friends loads of cash.
At 3:52, Heraldo Rivera: "if it is as reported".
They are not even sure if it's true and they are having a group orgasm.
Russians are reporting that no one died on that island and all 82 servicemen surrendered after warning shots were fired. No one is claiming that Russians are lying, they just ignore it.
Uninformed and Compliant
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The death of Bernie is real, and I just found the sonnofabitch soldier who murdered him, again.
He can't keep getting away with this!
prambo
.475 A&M Magnum
I'll admit that slagging Zhou Bia-Den is fun because 1) it's just so easy and 2) it's actually slagging Obola, who's running this shit-show from his Kalorama Commie Compound.
The political arguments here often get quite heated, but childish name-calling ("smarty pants") and general slagging the entire forum is counter-productive.
Also, people here like evidence that they can research - namely, links that have links to more primary sources - and Reuters and AP aren't in that club...they're biased propaganda organs.
I will admit, that blatantly leftist bullshit is not really tolerated well.
Haven't seen a leftist make a cogent argument in...well, ever.
And,....we're done.
Uninformed and Compliant
.450/400 Nitro Ex
How have we made it this far into war in Ukraine without this scene being referenced to
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
If that's how it went down would it necessarily be a bad thing? I mean, we need a cleansing of our military to restore it
Celt
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I don't necessarily agree, if somebody comes on here trolling of course it's going to elicit an aggressive response. Simply expressing a different opinion humbly and without an "attitude" doesn't typically get responded to with aggression. It's also important to have facts to support any contradictory claims. Using sources like CNN or NBC certainly wouldn't count or be considered factual.
GOYABEAN
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BerettaGuy
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Way back I predicted that a civil war would be fought on YouTube. Little did I know the WWIII would be too.
YOU GOTTA SEE THIS INTERACTIVE MAP
liveuamap.com
YOU GOTTA SEE THIS INTERACTIVE MAP
Ukrainian army announces a counterattack north of Luhansk Bilovodsk, Luhansk region - Ukraine Interactive map - Ukraine Latest news on live map - liveuamap.com
Ukrainian army announces a counterattack north of Luhansk. Live Universal Awareness Map Liveuamap is a leading independent global news and information site dedicated to factual reporting of a variety of important topics including conflicts, human rights issues, protests, terrorism, weapons...
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Uninformed and Compliant
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Uninformed and Compliant
.450/400 Nitro Ex
When you see it, cuz he sure won't
Blimey
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Before you exhaust too much time on prambo you should know that he masquerades as a guy with a three-decade career as a microbiologist, yet now is a penniless old husk whose remaining contribution to the world (at least as one can glean from his posts on this forum) is vitriol. He hates how things have gone for himself and takes it out on anybody who dares to challenge his rage-based opinions.
Please don’t take his accusations of trolling personally. It’s just all he knows now.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Hillary Clinton Calls for Non-Governmental Actors and Hackers To Lead the United States Military Into a Hot War Against Russia in Ukraine
February 25, 2022
Let us not forget the history of Egypt 2011, Libya 2012 and the original U.S. State Department Ukraine operations in 2014.
Everything we are seeing in U.S. media surrounding U.S. interests in Ukraine is a massive propaganda operation with the headquarters in the U.S. State Department and U.S. intelligence community. The sense of sympathy you are feeling is part of an intentionally manipulative operation from within this DC matrix.
The images, pictures, videos, speeches, soundbites and the cinematography broadcast by U.S. corporate media are all purposefully intended to create a very specific outlook within the American people toward the issues in Ukraine. The leftist United Nations, and the leftist U.S State Dept, will work together on this just like they have done in the prior examples (Ukraine 1.0, Libya, Egypt, etc.)
If you question any of their constructs, if you point out the puppet strings, if you notice the collective distribution of specifically repeated patterns, you are a labeled a Russian apologist. However, it is critical to retain our reference points to recognize when we are being misled by this effort.
The ultra-leftists in the U.S. Deep State Department have been playing in Ukraine for well over a decade. Do you really think they will just walk away from their investments without fighting to retain that influence? Of course not.
Hillary Clinton Calls for Non-Governmental Actors and Hackers To Lead the United States Military Into a Hot War Against Russia in Ukraine - The Last Refuge
Let us not forget the history of Egypt 2011, Libya 2012 and the original U.S. State Department Ukraine operations in 2014. Everything we are seeing in U.S. media surrounding U.S. interests in Ukraine is a massive propaganda operation with the headquarters in the U.S. State Department and U.S...
theconservativetreehouse.com
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
Looks like a Holosun with the rubber cap still on lol
??? You can still see the dot on the target with the front cover on and both eyes open. We train like that all the time to be more target focused.