Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)

[holdover]

Rumors of up to 80 Russian tanks destroyed and over 100+ infantry fighting vehicles destroyed.

Apparently the cages on tanks aren't stopping the javelins.

Im not an expert on Javlins or anti tank warfare, but from what I understand, is that they can also target side armor also.

Tanks are not as effective in citys either, thats going to be a knock down drag out infantry fight if it happens.

 

[holdover]

And directly bring the US into it.

You know if they had a secure area, they could "'gift ""them some

 

[libertysnake]

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And directly bring the US into it.

The thing is, if you let this sort of violence go unchecked, it will escalate. This will never go beyond conventional warfare because no one wins in a nuclear scenario.

We kept appeasing Hitler in the 30s and 40s and that got us nowhere.

 

[holdover]

Im sure we have a large of inventory of older shit they would be great against BMPs and trucks lightly armored vehicles,

I'm sure The US is giving them all kinds of intell

 

[FrankenCub]

The thing is, if you let this sort of violence go unchecked, it will escalate. This will never go beyond conventional warfare because no one wins in a nuclear scenario.

We kept appeasing Hitler in the 30s and 40s and that got us nowhere.

That is true, but people need to be sure they're ready to fight on our soil because the possibility is there. It won't be goat farmers we'd be fighting.

 

[libertysnake]

That is true, but people need to be sure they're ready to fight on our soil because the possibility is there. It won't be goat farmers we'd be fighting.

I think that's the wrong way to phrase it. If the question is "is this the right thing to do?", and the answer is "yes", then the solution is clear.

The real question is whether we have the courage to stand up when this sort of thing happens, or if we want to simply ignore it because it's inconvenient. It's a moral failure, or it's not. That's up to us as a country, if the answer is clear.

 

[Defilade]

"Ukraine is their money laundering operation." "Their" refers to the deep state. Take out their funding. Destroy their system within the Ukraine. Ukraine is corrupt with Neo-Nazis controlling government there. The deep state operators. Money laundering funds everything they do. 2014-15 Obama, Soros, Clinton, etc., set up shop. They wanted the pipeline going through Ukraine, they wanted Crimea. They never got what they wanted. Russia went around Ukraine with the pipeline. Crimea voted themselves away. Same way they did this to the Islamic State in Syria during Obama. Take out their funding, destroy their system.

You were saying?

 

[That_FNG]

Saw someone on the news today saying what good is rifles in the hands of Ukrainian civilians going to do against Russian fighter jets and tanks. idk, hmm ask the Vietcong and afghans?

what’s on the news right now is literally the reason why civilians need to have magazines that hold 30 rounds or more.

 

[meketrefe]

When you see it, cuz he sure won't

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Aint point.

 

[Blimey]

I'd be in support of 30mm of aid.

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NATO could actually stop this. NATO members Air Force would sport fuck Russia’s Soviet tanks. And Putin would not launch a nuke because nato is defending Ukraine over Ukrainian air space. There is no logic behind it.

well…it may be too late now if Kiev is as close to gone as feared.

 

[Defilade]

Looks like I'm on Team Russia. When Clinton,Trudeau, Biden, MSM are all in against Russia. Guess what? The Deep State once again is showing it colors.

 

[Defilade]

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Im sure we have a large of inventory of older shit they would be great against BMPs and trucks lightly armored vehicles,

I'm sure The US is giving them all kinds of intell

We've had awacs jstars and global hawks on constant orbits just outside the battle.

I'm sure the Intel being gained is making it's way to Ukrainian command and control channels...

 

[holdover]

Interesting.

Javelin is a Tandem Shape Charge Warhead. Which means, it has a small warhead thst triggers and destroys the ERA or Cage before the main warhead that penetrates the Tank with over 1200mm of armor penetration.

The cage armor isnt working.

 

[holdover]

NATO could actually stop this. NATO members Air Force would sport fuck Russia’s Soviet tanks. And Putin would not launch a nuke because nato is defending Ukraine over Ukrainian air space. There is no logic behind it.

well…it may be too late now if Kiev is as close to gone as feared.

The battle hasn't started.

 

[redtail]

Sub human anti resistance force in KyivChechen 'hunters' unleashed to detain - or kill - Kyiv officials

 

[spat]

I hate to say it but it sounds more like the United States.

When was the last time we annexed territory by force ?

 

[holdover]

When was the last time we annexed territory by force ?

Annex? or destroyed? because we fucked up a lot of countries

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

The battle hasn't started.

I'm curious to see if Russian units start getting hit with Molotov cocktails full on Stalingrad style

 

[Dr. Evil]

What does that tell you about the deep state and what may actually be happening?

 

[FrankenCub]

I think that's the wrong way to phrase it. If the question is "is this the right thing to do?", and the answer is "yes", then the solution is clear.

The real question is whether we have the courage to stand up when this sort of thing happens, or if we want to simply ignore it because it's inconvenient. It's a moral failure, or it's not. That's up to us as a country, if the answer is clear.

The more little bits I read kinda push a lean towards not the right thing to do. More and more crumbs look like NATO and certain US politicians have too many dirty dealings in there and Russia was pushed to this. I'm not firm on that quite yet, but it certainly looks that way. It's too bad for the Ukraine people that are put in this situation though.

If shtf and it ended up on our doorstep, I'm sure the citizens here would unite against any attacker. Look at 9/11 for proof of that. I've personally seen some pretty scumbag people that I'd normally feel giddy if they ended up dead, do some damn good things for those around them after that.

 

[redtail]

Putin prepares to use 'father of all bombs' as Ukraine fights advance

 

[Defilade]

 

[Dr. Evil]

There is the Neo-Nazi reference again.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Putin prepares to use 'father of all bombs' as Ukraine fights advance

I have a hard time trusting most news sources. Not sure how sensational they make things.

 

[Defilade]

 

[Dr. Evil]

They are panicking. Their system is falling apart. They are running out of ammunition.

Hillary Clinton promotes cyberattacks against Russia - Washington Examiner

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton touted the use of cyberattacks against Russia in response to its brutal military assault on Ukraine. Referencing hacktivist group Anonymous's recent cyberattack on a Russian state news site, Clinton advocated people who "believe in freedom" to employ...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[holdover]

REPORT: MASSIVE BUILDUP of Assault Helicopters in Southern Belarus — Russia Prepares for Major Airborne Assault in Ukraine * The Gateway Pundit * by Jim Hoft

Aerial footage shows a MASSIVE buildup of Russian assault helicopters in Southern Belarus.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[FrankenCub]

They are panicking. Their system is falling apart. They are running out of ammunition.

Hillary Clinton promotes cyberattacks against Russia - Washington Examiner

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton touted the use of cyberattacks against Russia in response to its brutal military assault on Ukraine. Referencing hacktivist group Anonymous's recent cyberattack on a Russian state news site, Clinton advocated people who "believe in freedom" to employ...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[holdover]

He's very stressed,He didnt move one finger.