Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)

[spat]

Mufti of the Chechen Republic: Ukraine Invaders Are 'On the Path of Allah'

The Mufti of the Chechen Republic has endorsed the invasion of Ukraine, saying that the invaders are "on the path of Allah".

www.breitbart.com

I've seen this one before.

This will be the first time we're on the same side as Germany....

 

[Blimey]

Russian peacekeepers cluster bombing kharkiv.

Ukraine crisis: Cluster munition dropped on buildings in Kharkiv

Ukraine's interior ministry adviser Anton Herashchenko said dozens of people have been killed in Russian rocket strikes on the Ukrainian city of Kharkiv.

news.sky.com

If this goes on for very long you will see more people in the west discuss getting involved militarily. If that happens it will be via air support, which would quickly turn the tide of this conflict. NATO denying russian air support + taking out its troops/armor in ukraine russia will have to retreat, and quickly. This has already been a strategic blunder for putin. He must know it by now.

 

[Mosinitis]

You are talking to a guy who toes the russian line that the holdomor was not a deliberate killing of ukranians.

In 2006 a bill passed in ukraine 233 to 1 condemning the Holodomor as a deliberate genocide. Millions of ukranians were killed. That's the country russia thinks it can pacify? Russia cannot pacify ukraine except via massive, constant violence. And regardless of putin's will russia simply doesn't have the power. It is outclassed by EU alone 3:1 population and 8:1 GDP. Putin failed to get the memo that not only are russia's glory days gone, buy they are never, ever returning.

I proudly toe the line which is based on facts, instead of fabrication, exaggerations and outright lies. There were famines in Russian and Kazakhstan regions as well. There were also famines before Stalin and before Lenin.

 

[spat]

A MOAB, ferilizer or ammo cache? I feel like a nuke, even tactical, would have a blinding flash especially at night.

There are a number of signatures that a nuke will have.

It is impossible to set off a nuke anywhere without the US government knowing about it.

Even underground testing has a tell tale radiation pulse, and we have satellites that are purpose built for detecting them. The US government knows within seconds of any nuclear explosion anywhere in the vicinity of earth.

 

[Blimey]

I proudly toe the line which is based on facts, instead of fabrication, exaggerations and outright lies. There were famines in Russian and Kazakhstan regions as well. There were also famines before Stalin and before Lenin.

I disagree, but in a way what happened doesn't matter now. What does matter is what people think happened: Most of Ukraine thinks the soviets deliberately, knowingly murdered millions of people. And now they see a son of the soviet union again in their country killing people.

 

[Blimey]

Ukraine not surrendering to the fascists:

Ukraine is 'not ready to surrender or capitulate' to Russia, foreign minister says

Ukraine has vowed that it will not surrender to Russia, as talks are held between delegates from both countries.

www.cnbc.com

 

[BerettaGuy]

OOPS!

Ukrainian forces destroy convoy of 56 Chechen tanks, kill general near Kyiv – report

The column was reportedly deployed by Russia to 'capture and kill' Ukraine's leaders, including President Zelensky, using infamous 'deck of cards' system

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[redtail]

Hope that's not fake news.

Indeed.
Read a theory that western intel was relayed to the UKR forces to set up an ambush.

 

[SonOfSun]

OOPS!

Ukrainian forces destroy convoy of 56 Chechen tanks, kill general near Kyiv – report

The column was reportedly deployed by Russia to 'capture and kill' Ukraine's leaders, including President Zelensky, using infamous 'deck of cards' system

www.timesofisrael.com

I want to see pictures if I'm going to believe that. 56 tanks is a lot, should be able to give us pictures of at least a dozen of them.

 

[Mosinitis]

I disagree, but in a way what happened doesn't matter now. What does matter is what people think happened: Most of Ukraine thinks the soviets deliberately, knowingly murdered millions of people. And now they see a son of the soviet union again in their country killing people.

Not in Ukraine, but in this country I remember how people felt about Soviet-Afghan war. Remember the hysteria, hate mongering, idiotic claims. History proved it all wrong.

 

[pjzwtl]

/egos

Dementia

 

[BerettaGuy]

Why the "major shift"? What if everything we thought was good, was actually bad?

None of any of this is "good".
It is all "bad".
Bad in the premise that it is not going to end well or may never end.
Look at the Russian alliance's Belarus, Chechnya and others. For many of them, WWII did not end until 1991 with the fall of the USSR. They are militaristic to this day,
Is it good that PUTIN is exposed? Many Putin apologists out there.
Is it good that US Foreign Policy failures are exposed? When the Clinton Bush Obama failures are pointed out you will hear people say, Now is not the time to cast blame. They are protecting those at fault.
For many of us that used to practice duck and cover, we have been here before. But as they say, The third time is the charm.
After all, we have been preparing for this since 1945.
The major shift is that after 20 or so years of living in a "fantasy" world, the shift is more of a shaking awake rather than a shift. Gives a new meaning to the word "woke".

 

[redtail]

Yes and more to that that I align with..


Putin is not invading Ukraine.
Putin is taking out deep state black op bio labs with precision strikes, who have been trying to create killer diseases right on Russia's border.
Ukraine is a stronghold for money laundering and the Biden crime family will be exposed with information coming out.
This couldnt happen under Trump as its bad optics and the media love nothing more than to try to get Trump and Putin to fight.
Zelensky (a Ukrainian Trump who was elected) is in on this too, but will do the optics dance.
Putin will come out with a peace deal soon.
Those of us who do pay attention to what happens on our planet know that Putin is an enemy of the Globalists and is well aware of the Deep State presence in Ukraine.
This all goes back to when the Neo Nazis took more control after the Maidan Square massacre about 8-9 years ago, where the deep state used snipers on roofs to wreak havoc.
China will kick off with Taiwan next like Trump told us.
Like I have been saying all along Trump , Putin and Xi are covertly working together to take out the deep state cabal.
You are watching a show.
The MSM will hype this all up and make people believe that WW3 is imminent, which is complete fake news.
The end result will be the exposing of the CIA's role in "the virus" as an attack on USA and China via Fauci leaked emails.
This will expose the CIA's funding of the CCP, Big Pharma and to the normies, that yes there is such a thing as the cabal.
Xi is like a Trump, and is not an ally of the CCP.
Xi was told not to bring Trump to the forbidden city when Trump visted but Xi did it anyway, which was such a huge deal as no one is allowed in the forbidden city , especially not someone from the West.
The Chinese people will soon be free.
This song and dance and show had to happen this way because your sheeple family and friends were too cowardly to wake up by themselves and refused to research or even question things even after the entire planet of healthy people were locked inside their homes because the media rebranded the flu and they were forced to get eperimental Big Pharma vaccines to live life, for the first time in history.
Our planet can never be allowed get this ignorant again.
It is shameful , especially by the Western men whose chosen ignorance will be studied for eons.
God bless the Truth Bombers all around the world fighting for humanity.

Wow. I like conspiracy or alternate thinking & actually followed the Qanon bullshit for a while, But I cannot wrap my head around this being a reality.

I would certainly hope it is, but seems to far even for Alex Jones.

 

[Steal2B]

The most obvious one being the "reports" there is something off with Putin.

It is not really fake news.

First there was always "something off" with Putin. His aberrant disorders likely even served him well on his rise to power.

The recently noted changes in his behavior, demeanor, ramblings, temperament and platform skills could be a function of deterioration, aging, an intentional play out to add a factor of unpredictability or even a result of his miscalculations or errors.

Bottom line, the asshole would have never passed screening for unescourted access to a nuclear facility and history has shown what can happen when the leader of a powerful organization goes on a tirade or becomes a zealot.

 

[Mosinitis]

As the territories of Donbass which were under Ukrainian control get liberated town after town. Horror stories of treatment of ethnic Russians emerge. All is being documented, evidence collected, dead bodies are exhumed. Our government started to deny mass graves early on to cover up the tracks.
RUSSIAN LIVES MATTER!

 

[Phazer]

Ukrainian man removes mine from roadway while smoking cigarette: video

A fearless Ukrainian man removed a land mine from a bridge with his bare hands while casually puffing on a cigarette, startling video shows.

nypost.com

 

[redtail]

As the territories of Donbass which were under Ukrainian control get liberated town after town. Horror stories of treatment of ethnic Russians emerge. All is being documented, evidence collected, dead bodies are exhumed. Our government started to deny mass graves early on to cover up the tracks.
RUSSIAN LIVES MATTER!

FUCK AZOV and scum who support them.

Source?
Not that I don't believe it, but a reputable source would give credence.

 

[Mosinitis]

Source?
Not that I don't believe it, but a reputable source wouls give credence.

Russian media, residents of liberated towns and common sense. It's not like Azov Scumbags would harm anyone, would they?

 

[Mosinitis]

Source?
Not that I don't believe it, but a reputable source would give credence.

I am sure collected evidence will be presented at some point in the official accusatory instruments.

 

[BerettaGuy]

As the territories of Donbass which were under Ukrainian control get liberated town after town. Horror stories of treatment of ethnic Russians emerge. All is being documented, evidence collected, dead bodies are exhumed. Our government started to deny mass graves early on to cover up the tracks.
RUSSIAN LIVES MATTER!

You bring up a point. I went to a party at a neighbor's house 25 years ago. They happened to be 100% polish descent. All their relatives were there. Some spoke with a heavy accent and were WWII survivors. During a discussion, I learned from these people that they "hated" Ukrainians and would think nothing of shooting them across the border and vice-versa. The point is: Europeans have been killing each other since forever for good reason, bad reason, or no reason at all. The United States kind of forced them to live together and assimilate which they did. Then after the US had to stop the carnage in 2 world wars, we made them stop. But how can you stop thousands of years of blood feuds and hate? Answer: Mutually Assured Destruction.
What I am saying is: If you think that Europe is some lofty intellectual sanctuary of reason and intelligence, you really don't have a clue.
Ps. the Default setting people everywhere is to be ruled. The Great Experiment of the USA tried to change that. Some experiments fail.

 

[Arjuna]

Don’t Look Now | Kunstler

 

[Steal2B]

Source?
Not that I don't believe it, but a reputable source would give credence.

It is easier to find reputable sources that confirm Putin's neo-nazi private battalions from the Wagner Group is the model of Azov autrocities on steroids.

If a sovereign country is to be damned because of guilt by relatively remote association, Apologists for Putin are ironically shameless.

Too bad there has been no Karma yet for the seemingly limitless evil in this world guised as statists, goverment swamps, organized enterprises, fanatics, zealots, cartels, gangs, sex traffickers, lobbies / activists, etc. Just saying.

 

[pjzwtl]

It is not really fake news.

First there was always "something off" with Putin. His aberrant disorders likely even served him well on his rise to power.

The recently noted changes in his behavior, demeanor, ramblings, temperament and platform skills could be a function of deterioration, aging, an intentional play out to add a factor of unpredictability or even a result of his miscalculations or errors.

Bottom line, the asshole would have never passed screening for unescourted access to a nuclear facility and history has shown what can happen when the leader of a powerful organization goes on a tirade or becomes a zealot.

Great so your saying we may now have 2 demented assholes with nuke codes?

 

[redtail]

Warning Graphic
Poor dog crying.

 

[livingston]

Girlfriend has a friend that has an uncle in the Ukraine . Talking to the uncle he said they were totally unaware Russia would cross border. As a result the family has limited food supplies and are sheltering in a cellar . Long lines to the stores and no idea if one can purchase anything once there. ... a lot of confusion on what to do . ... Saying this ... A certain amount of folks have no idea of the news going around them. They can tell you the name of the latest hits in the music world however when asked about the truckers convoy in Canada .... What convoy.... ... Is this the same the world over ... ? Or did everyone believe Russia would not cross border. ?

 

[holdover]

President Volodymyr Zelensky is queer as a football bat, Yes thats him in the video!

 

[1341]

I am sure collected evidence will be presented at some point in the official accusatory instruments.

Hopefully it will be done like the Katyn forest investigation.

 

[redtail]

Graphic. The war atrocities will be broadcast

 

[livingston]

You bring up a point. I went to a party at a neighbor's house 25 years ago. They happened to be 100% polish descent. All their relatives were there. Some spoke with a heavy accent and were WWII survivors. During a discussion, I learned from these people that they "hated" Ukrainians and would think nothing of shooting them across the border and vice-versa. The point is: Europeans have been killing each other since forever for good reason, bad reason, or no reason at all. The United States kind of forced them to live together and assimilate which they did. Then after the US had to stop the carnage in 2 world wars, we made them stop. But how can you stop thousands of years of blood feuds and hate? Answer: Mutually Assured Destruction.
What I am saying is: If you think that Europe is some lofty intellectual sanctuary of reason and intelligence, you really don't have a clue.
Ps. the Default setting people everywhere is to be ruled. The Great Experiment of the USA tried to change that. Some experiments fail.

The answer is the great reset

 

[Blimey]

Girlfriend has a friend that has an uncle in the Ukraine . Talking to the uncle he said they were totally unaware Russia would cross border. As a result the family has limited food supplies and are sheltering in a cellar . Long lines to the stores and no idea if one can purchase anything once there. ... a lot of confusion on what to do . ... Saying this ... A certain amount of folks have no idea of the news going around them. They can tell you the name of the latest hits in the music world however when asked about the truckers convoy in Canada .... What convoy.... ... Is this the same the world over ... ? Or did everyone believe Russia would not cross border. ?

Many did. I posted on a reddit thread in january and told a guy russia was poised to invade. He mocked it. I got downvoted. I asked him earlier this week after Russia had already moved into donbas (!) if he wanted to change his view, but he insisted that russia woulidn't invade the greater ukraine. On thursday I asked him again if he'd like to rescind his predictions, and radio silence.

This is probably also why some are questioning putin's sanity now. Although there were many heads in the sand over this, Russia did have military aggressively built up on the border and western intel was consistently very clear that it indicated a huge invasion. Many denied it would happen probably because it's very stupid and they didn't think putin was stupid. He's either stupid or losing his mind (or just very ignorant--probably this one--he believes his own propaganda). He cannot win what he's trying to win.