Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)

[Steal2B]

Could they really do enough though, with the amount of warheads that would drop on Russia you'd think between surface building destruction and the amount of radiation in the air and weather patterns, you wouldn't want to be on the surface for a good 50yrs anyway. At least from my uneducated position.

Just an interesting article discussing a cross section of Russian Bunkers

Moscow Is Ready for a Nuclear War (As in Lots of Bunkers for the Population)

According to Russia’s Ministry of Emergency Situations, in the event of a nuclear attack on Moscow, there is space in underground facilities for all of the population. While this is a very bold claim, Moscow is famous for the massive amount of bunkers it has available for Civil Defense...

nationalinterest.org

 

[Blimey]

I look at history objectively, not ideologically. All ideologies have pluses and minuses. My mind is not poisoned by fanatical indoctrination and Russophobia. I don't view the world through a narrow ideological prism.
People like Putin because he tells it like it is, unlike politicians in this country who blow smoke up your ass and don't really mean what they say.

Surely you aren’t serious.

 

[Steal2B]

I look at history objectively, not ideologically. All ideologies have pluses and minuses. My mind is not poisoned by fanatical indoctrination and Russophobia. I don't view the world through a narrow ideological prism.
People like Putin because he tells it like it is, unlike politicians in this country who blow smoke up your ass and don't really mean what they say.

 

[Dr. Evil]

"You know what Putin and Trump have in common? They stand against the NWO, World Economic Forum and the global elite take over of the earth. This is why our deep state mobilized all assets against Trump for 4 years and why they lost their fucking minds over Trump's policies and actions regarding the Ukraine. Enemy of the people."

Who's backing the Ukraine? The World Economic Forum, Claus Schwab, George Soros. That tells you everything you need to know.

Wayne Dupree

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[meketrefe]

You and people like you just can't face the fact that Soviet Union was the top dog in WWII, that's why you need to create hypotheticals. U.S. forces were facing German 2nd league as well. 1st league was fighting on the Eastern front.

You can tell yourself a lie long enough and start thinking is real.
Russians had taken opportunity of an overstretched and undersuplied german army.
One of the main problems evaluating the quality of Russians forces has been the pathological lies of the soviets who adapted details of events when that didnt suit the agenda so the past could not be verified. This occurred during stalins rule, playing down many operations, like Operation Mars for example, with ruskys saying it was a secondary operation, yada yada yada. German Kriegsberichte found in U.S. museums, and what was the real information for the OKW so those who want to learn beyond the enemy of the gates fantasy can learn some facts. In this case and jist like many other devastating losses of operation Mars, the soviet 147 th. Rifle Brigade was annielated from 4k to 27 men.
Stalingrad didn't have to happen, it was Hitlers poor decision making against his generals advice.
Germany was a mission based vs order based army and had made the terrible mistake to engage in many fronts against literally the rest of the world.
The russians fought bravely like everybody else but they lost many good people for no reason at all and sent to certain death.
I guess in both totalitarian regimes there was little regard for human life and I know the germans started all that.
The western front and the battle of england were also full of tough campaigns and difficult battle's.

Perhaps the panzer lehr, the 2md division and the Grossdeutschland (GD) were among the best and they met hell in all fronts.

I am ok with people standing up for their countries and cultural background and what not but dont start justifying communist regimes of thugs and criminal elites that might be worse than hitler himself.

Open your mind and read and think and then talk instead just talking and justifying Bull Shit like a parrot.

 

[Mosinitis]

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Russia will never be acceptable to the West, neither will any Russian leader who is not a participant in distruction of his own country.

 

[GOPerfect]

Post 770. Putin is helping trump out, ergo good guy.

A different take than what the MSM is spinning...


[Forwarded from Patel Patriot]
Here’s my take on what’s happening in Ukraine/Russia. I’m just spitballing here. Like everybody else I have more questions than I do answers but I think this plays into Devolution.

First think about what Ukraine is – It’s the epicenter of corruption for the political establishment. Victor Pinchuk, George Soros, Ihor Kolomoisky… All funding “deep state” agendas worldwide, all based out of Ukraine. We know their ties to the Clinton foundation and liberal politics in America.

If Trump was going to truly drain the swamp, he would have to tackle the corruption in Ukraine. The oligarchs have funded their own militaries in previous color revolutions. Trump could wouldn’t be able to take them down without a fight. So if Trump is going to clean up Ukraine he would likely need boots on the ground to do it.

Enter Putin.

It’s no secret that Putin hates Soros as he banned him from Russia long ago, and it’s also no secret that Putin despised the “deep state” tactics of implementing color revolutions to overthrow pro-Russian leaders and install ones that would play ball with the “deep state”. It’s speculated by many that Putin could be working with Trump in the fight against the “deep state” and it’s hard to argue with. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

So think of the brilliance that might be taking place right now.

Boots on the ground were likely necessary to fully remove the problem in Ukraine, but Trump couldn’t invade Ukraine with US troops. Somebody else would have to do it. However, if somebody like Putin were to do it while Trump was president, it would make Trump look week and the media would have a field day.

What better time to clean up the mess in Ukraine than with Biden in office? Kills two birds with one invasion. You make the Biden administration and the MSM look like fools, while taking on the “deep state” in one of the most corrupt countries on the planet.

Putin is simultaneously helping Trump to serve up red-pills while fixing a problem that actually benefits the USA and the rest of the world – the denazification of Ukraine.

We won’t have any definitive answers until this blows over but make sure you guys are using the 24 – hour rule with news reports coming out about this stuff.

So, a member posted something that someone, not on the forum was thinking....

 

[Mosinitis]

You can tell yourself a lie long enough and start thinking is real.
Russians had taken opportunity of an overstretched and undersuplied german army.
One of the main problems evaluating the quality of Russians forces has been the pathological lies of the soviets who adapted details of events when that didnt suit the agenda so the past could not be verified. This occurred during stalins rule, playing down many operations, like Operation Mars for example, with ruskys saying it was a secondary operation, yada yada yada. German Kriegsberichte found in U.S. museums, and what was the real information for the OKW so those who want to learn beyond the enemy of the gates fantasy can learn some facts. In this case and jist like many other devastating losses of operation Mars, the soviet 147 th. Rifle Brigade was annielated from 4k to 27 men.
Stalingrad didn't have to happen, it was Hitlers poor decision making against his generals advice.
Germany was a mission based vs order based army and had made the terrible mistake to engage in many fronts against literally the rest of the world.
The russians fought bravely like everybody else but they lost many good people for no reason at all and sent to certain death.
I guess in both totalitarian regimes there was little regard for human life and I know the germans started all that.
The western front and the battle of england were also full of tough campaigns and difficult battle's.

Perhaps the panzer lehr, the 2md division and the Grossdeutschland (GD) were among the best and they met hell in all fronts.

I am ok with people standing up for their countries and cultural background and what not but dont start justifying communist regimes of thugs and criminal elites that might be worse than hitler himself.

Open your mind and read and think and then talk instead just talking and justifying Bull Shit like a parrot.

I didn't even read this. Your opinion is discarded. I am not interested in idiotic childish fantasies.

 

[Dr. Evil]

U.S. Senator Mark Warner Urges Tech Companies To Fight Russian Propaganda In Ukraine—Russian Officials Punish Those That Do

The chairman of the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee sent letters to Alphabet, Meta, Reddit, Telegram, TikTok and Twitter as Russian officials limit access to Facebook

www.forbes.com

Here we go again. Just like covid. So long 1st amendment.

 

[GOYABEAN]

 

[SonOfSun]

I look at history objectively, not ideologically. All ideologies have pluses and minuses. My mind is not poisoned by fanatical indoctrination and Russophobia. I don't view the world through a narrow ideological prism.
People like Putin because he tells it like it is, unlike politicians in this country who blow smoke up your ass and don't really mean what they say.

Tells it like it is? Lol. Sort of like this?

Russia will not attack Ukraine and is not harboring “aggressive” plans, a Kremlin spokesman said Tuesday while also not ruling out military action following what Moscow considers fearsome threats from Kyiv.

“Russia is not going to attack anyone,” Dmitry Peskov, a spokesman for Russian President Vladimir Putin, told reporters Tuesday morning, according to a translation of his remarks. “It’s not like that.”

 

[Blimey]

Let’s see how this is going for Putin:

1) his military has been shown as far weaker than Russia ever wanted the world to see. If he ever goes toe to toe with nato he’ll be manhandled like a rag doll.

2) for once massive, brutal sanctions in place which will cause intense damage to his economy

3) Finland—heretofore officially neutral—is supplying arms to Ukraine. the Swiss are also for once breaking with neutrality to sanction russia

4) nato member nations will profoundly increase military budgets are are more unified than they have been since the Cold War

5) Orgs across the planet, from F1 to Disney to Maersk are ostracizing russia of their own volition.

Putin “fucked up good and proper”.

 

[GOPerfect]

U.S. Senator Mark Warner Urges Tech Companies To Fight Russian Propaganda In Ukraine—Russian Officials Punish Those That Do

The chairman of the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee sent letters to Alphabet, Meta, Reddit, Telegram, TikTok and Twitter as Russian officials limit access to Facebook

www.forbes.com

Here we go again. Just like covid. So long 1st amendment.

But, we as a Nation will still purchase their oil?

We continue all imports from them as well...

Most of those imports come from mineral fuels, which are estimated to be worth $13 billion, precious metals and stone worth $2.2 billion, iron and steel worth 1.4 billion, and fertilizers worth $963 million.

Russia is also a key link to agricultural products, like tree nuts, vegetable oils and dairy products. Of the $69 million in agricultural products sent from Russia to the U.S. in 2019, $8 million were in snack foods.

But, shut them off with FaceBook? Yeah, that will teach them, such leadership.

 

[GOPerfect]

Let’s see how this is going for Putin:

1) his military has been shown as far weaker than Russia ever wanted the world to see. If he ever goes toe to toe with nato he’ll be manhandled like a rag doll.

2) for once massive, brutal sanctions in place which will cause intense damage to his economy

3) Finland—heretofore officially neutral—is supplying arms to Ukraine. the Swiss are also for once breaking with neutrality to sanction russia

4) nato member nations will profoundly increase military budgets are are more unified than they have been since the Cold War

5) Orgs across the planet, from F1 to Disney to Maersk are ostracizing russia of their own volition.

Putin “fucked up good and proper”.

If, and this a big if for many...

If you all believe what the propaganda ministry of the MSM is telling you.

 

[GOYABEAN]

 

[Dr. Evil]

If, and this a big if for many...

If you all believe what the propaganda ministry of the MSM is telling you.

Not for him. If history has shown us anything...

and

 

[Blimey]

But, we as a Nation will still purchase their oil?

We continue all imports from them as well...

Most of those imports come from mineral fuels, which are estimated to be worth $13 billion, precious metals and stone worth $2.2 billion, iron and steel worth 1.4 billion, and fertilizers worth $963 million.

Russia is also a key link to agricultural products, like tree nuts, vegetable oils and dairy products. Of the $69 million in agricultural products sent from Russia to the U.S. in 2019, $8 million were in snack foods.

But, shut them off with FaceBook? Yeah, that will teach them, such leadership.

I’d happily pay $6 gallon for gas if it hurt Russia. Would you? People buy 20 mpg trucks and cry about $4 gallon gas. How is Biden ever going to sell a country of greedy consumers on the idea that to hurt Russia they will have to sacrifice? Most Americans haven’t known real sacrifice in decades.

 

[Defilade]

I feel this shall escalate major cyber attacks here in the U.S blamed on Russia. But in reality..Deep state attacks.

 

[Blimey]

If, and this a big if for many...

If you all believe what the propaganda ministry of the MSM is telling you.

I don’t believe it all by any means. I’ve come upon tons of “look how bad the Russians did in this fight” I’ve not posted here because it smells like bs. There are massive claims being made that seem hard to believe and have no corroboration.

 

[GOPerfect]

I’d happily pay $6 gallon for gas if it hurt Russia. Would you? People buy 20 mpg trucks and cry about $4 gallon gas. How is Biden ever going to sell a country of greedy consumers on the idea that to hurt Russia they will have to sacrifice? Most Americans haven’t known real sacrifice in decades.

Nope, I do not want to sacrifice at all. Drill all that we have here and make gas the price that it was during my President's time in office.

The extra costs in fuel are the doing of biden and his mutt filled administration, not because of the current conflict.

My truck gets about 17mpg.

I kind of hope things get really bad financially. I earn more than I need and I can work an unlimited amount of OT. The /gov deposits in my account every month. Will not effect me all that much. The rest of America can not afford the forced sacrifice. I look forward to this, been saying for quite some time, the majority of those that will be hurt are the ones that voted for this idiot. Bring it.

 

[SomeSoldier]

Deep thinking indeed.

Could this be part of Agenda 21 and 2030?

Maybe, I will start a new thread and explain all of that.....

Ukrainian MP Makes Shocking Admission about the "New World Order"

For more exclusive interviews, insight, and analysis like this, SUBSCRIBE to The Charlie Kirk Show TODAY: https://apple.co/2VCxGsh And for EVEN MORE—tune in to The Charlie Kirk Show LIVE on Salem Radi

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[GOPerfect]

I don’t believe it all by any means. I’ve come upon tons of “look how bad the Russians did in this fight” I’ve not posted here because it smells like bs. There are massive claims being made that seem hard to believe and have no corroboration.

Agreed. I just want the truth.

When I was deployed, all times, we all took some amazing videos of "war live", wondering where all those videos are?

We videoed everything. I mean everything. Thousands of pictures and hours and hours of video. Where is all from this conflict? I only want the truth. That is all I have been asking for.

 

[GOPerfect]

Ukrainian MP Makes Shocking Admission about the "New World Order"

For more exclusive interviews, insight, and analysis like this, SUBSCRIBE to The Charlie Kirk Show TODAY: https://apple.co/2VCxGsh And for EVEN MORE—tune in to The Charlie Kirk Show LIVE on Salem Radi

rumble.com

I posted her videos earlier, amazing, they tell us the truth and it always gets downplayed with lies.

 

[holdover]

I don’t believe it all by any means. I’ve come upon tons of “look how bad the Russians did in this fight” I’ve not posted here because it smells like bs. There are massive claims being made that seem hard to believe and have no corroboration.

The propaganda has been mostly one sided ,Ill give you that, I cant find much on Ukraine military losses anywhere. Is their armor active or has it been destroyed on bases? Dont know. same with their helicopters and aircraft. cant find much.

 

[Deplorable Me]

So was the fall of the Ukraine orchestrated to cover up the corruption? Eliminate witnesses?

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Hold my beer.

 

[GOPerfect]

This and the like are going all around Twitter.....

Again, makes me wonder about all of it.

The Russia/Ukraine crisis really represents the best opportunity to rapidly reconfigure the world’s energy dependency away from fossil fuels and toward renewables. This moment is part of the great energy transition. It needs US lead policies to support, in US & EU

 

[holdover]

This and the like are going all around Twitter.....

Again, makes me wonder about all of it.

The Russia/Ukraine crisis really represents the best opportunity to rapidly reconfigure the world’s energy dependency away from fossil fuels and toward renewables. This moment is part of the great energy transition. It needs US lead policies to support, in US & EU

 

[GOPerfect]

What would happen if a nuclear bomb went off in your backyard?

Experience the power of a low-yield nuclear weapon in your area

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Pretty cool simulation if and when needed to see if you are safe or dead.

 

[kev74]

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Alec still has his finger on the trigger. He'll never learn.

 

[GOPerfect]

What would happen if a nuclear bomb went off in your backyard?

Experience the power of a low-yield nuclear weapon in your area

outrider.org

Pretty cool simulation if and when needed to see if you are safe or dead.

This one is better...

NUKEMAP by Alex Wellerstein

NUKEMAP is a website for visualizing the effects of nuclear detonations.

nuclearsecrecy.com