ArmedCorgi
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I'm pretty sure they learned that lesson from the Cuban missile crisis.
Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)
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Phazer
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Or, perhaps, Russian logistics are not all that great and they're just out of fuel.
holdover
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Yeah , but that seems sooo unlikely. It seems so amateurish that its hard to believe. like forgetting to bring bullets.
There had to have been check lists , that many officers had to sign off on . xxx amount of fuel per unit per day Checked, double checked triple checked right up the chain of command , sombody would have noticed that no one brought fuel . Its hard to fathom .
There had to have been check lists , that many officers had to sign off on . xxx amount of fuel per unit per day Checked, double checked triple checked right up the chain of command , sombody would have noticed that no one brought fuel . Its hard to fathom .
ArmedCorgi
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True. Nothing is making sense with this invasion.
holdover
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Im thinking it was an EMP, We'll see tommorrow I guess. Maybe they get up and moving .
Justincase
.308 Win
I haven’t read all the posts but is there an A10 analog available that can just straife the whole convoy? That would be epic
meketrefe
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Putin: do first, think later ...instead of the other way around.
holdover
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You would think some one would "Gift '' them some . or a lend lease type of deal.
That_FNG
.308 Win
Or maybe they were ordered to hold position as there are (secret?) talks going on. Maybe it’s plain simple logistical fuckupery and logistics failed to plan correctly for how much fuel or ammo required. Maybe the convoy is holding position as a distraction while something else is being set in motion. Hard to tell.
spat
.950 JDJ
Pretty sure there are protocols for these launches to avoid that sort of thing. Protocols that include telling the Russians about the test ahead of time and the planned course.
Also, there's no reason for "launch on warning" for anything other than a massive strike. if we *were* going to execute a first strike, even a handful of missiles launched wouldn't make a difference.
I doubt there would be any danger.
spat
.950 JDJ
Ukranians should spike the fuel in the stations along the way in case the Russians decide they need to steal some ?
Maybe they did, and now the Russians have a 40km convoy with bricks for engines ?
When ready, this is an entire topic if all are ready to have this conversation.
I can talk for days on the Great Reset. All tied in with Agenda21 and Agenda 2030.
Not sure if all are really ready for the real truths....
ArmedCorgi
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I mean, I have a vague idea of what those are, but in any case, I think it's safe to say anything with the word "agenda" tied to it is bad.
Media and lies...
Usually when something, anything happens that more than one person is involved with, their are two dies of the story and the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
This is definitely not a situation that follows that logic.
All sides are lying. The Ukrainians, The Russians, Nato to include the US; all are lying and the truth is very difficult to come by.
I do not believe any "side" that is speaking and reporting.
Usually when something, anything happens that more than one person is involved with, their are two dies of the story and the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
This is definitely not a situation that follows that logic.
All sides are lying. The Ukrainians, The Russians, Nato to include the US; all are lying and the truth is very difficult to come by.
I do not believe any "side" that is speaking and reporting.
The great reset, both Agendas and the WEF are all in this together. A weaved web that cannot be stopped or undone.
holdover
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It could be an unknown reason. Its really difficult to believe they failed logistically. Its like forgetting to bring food. There are check off lists they have to go through . Launching an attack with no fuel is like launching an airstrike with no missiles. This is not an easily overlooked mistake. It could be like Spat said, that the diesel was spiked . it could be a mutiny, secret talks, I dont know. But I do know, you dont leave an army sitting on the road for 3 days in the same place without doing anything during an offensive. Something is off here , and I dont believe it could be mass stupidly. An EMP attack is something Im just throwing out there as a possible reason.
spat
.950 JDJ
Anyone notice how Ukraine is the only thing any of the talking heads mention.
But when the same thing happened in Crimea a few years ago it was crickets ?
When you figure out why that is, you'll understand the world a lot better than I do.
What I do know is that "public opinion" isn't even manipulated at this point. It's essentially fabricated outright.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
I'm sure their equipment is EMP hardened, our is. Hell, my '84 CUCV is.
I think it's a combination of planning fuckery and waiting till troops in other areas are closer. They probably aren't too concerned about Ukraine taking them out as they're a bit preoccupied other places. Not like Ukraine has any A10s. Shit, one A10 and 10 minutes and that whole convoy would be a burning scrap pile.
JaguarJaguarGolf
6.5 Creedmoor
They didn't kill enough of us with the Covid or the vax, they couldn't start the race or civil war, so now they're not messing around with big tricky ideas anymore , they're just going to nuke us.
spat
.950 JDJ
The Ukrainian airforce isn't exactly a force to be reckoned with. Even if they had the A-10s I doubt they would be able to keep them in the air against the Russians.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
Oh I know that. I was saying an A10 and skilled pilot that convoy would be smokin. We're not a dog in the fight so it really doesn't matter.
spat
.950 JDJ
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
I thought this was a cool headline, but they must have a very punitive tax code if the government found it necessary to call this out. I could see our government telling us if we help repel foreign invaders, they will only prosecute us if we survive the conflict.
news.yahoo.com
Ukrainian authorities say citizens don't need to declare captured Russian tanks and military equipment for tax purposes
Ukrainian authorities say citizens don't need to declare captured Russian tanks and military equipment for tax purposes
Authorities said the declaration of seized tanks and military equipment would be unnecessary as the cost "does not exceed 100 living wages."
On just Wednesday or the entire war?
If they seriously expect people to believe they've had less than 500 KIA to this point that's laughable.
If they said 5000 KIA I would believe it.
They've had far too many losses for those numbers to be realistic.
I also think the Ukrainian side is "under reporting" but not as badly. They're getting hit pretty hard.
No joke. I was off yesterday and was watching the news. Something that I heard really caught my attention and my BS meter went up.
There was a press conference at the Pentagon and the department of defense guy was asked "what more could the US do to help support Ukraine" and he babbled for a minute then said (and I'm paraphrasing) the US could donate A10s to Ukraine under some obscure rule and there are some Ukrainian pilots who are trained to fly them.
Just how in the hell is that? The US is the only country in the world to operate A10 and it takes months to be certified and proficient on an specific type of airframe.
No joke. I'm not making that up. That was the line of questioning and the direct response from the DoD spokesman
Blimey
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It's not true.
Blimey
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And his successor will be well aware of afghanistan, chechnya, and ukraine.
To be honest I think your waning attention in this thread is indication of your true thoughts on this momentous fuck up by putin. His progress in the past week has been remarkable:
1) Shown that the russian military is more inept than most had ever dreamed
2) Helped create more NATO solidarity than we've had in a generation, including pushing even historically neutral nations like switzlerland into taking a position
3) Watched as Russia's economy has been kicked in the face and the beatings will continue
Phazer
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This war will not go on much longer. One Ukrainian city, Kherson, has fallen and other cities are being surrounded. Mariupol is under heavy seige. An amphibious force is near Odesa.
Anyone being misguided into going to Ukraine to fight against Russia is going to get killed.
The massive "stalled" Russian convoy is probably waiting to link up with other advancing Red Army elements.
The short term result, that Russia captures Ukraine, is inevitable. The long term result, that Russia can keep control of Ukraine, is debatable.
Anyone being misguided into going to Ukraine to fight against Russia is going to get killed.
The massive "stalled" Russian convoy is probably waiting to link up with other advancing Red Army elements.
The short term result, that Russia captures Ukraine, is inevitable. The long term result, that Russia can keep control of Ukraine, is debatable.
Bring it, people need to be reached and need to understand what is really going on.
1341
.45 acp
Wonder why they are out of fuel? They seem to have enough oil as they are still selling it around the world right. I wouldn't be surprised if the Russian quartermaster's have been selling it to all the local gas stations in Russia and Belarus before they invaded.