Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)

[tirwin1]

Interesting poll numbers (if true). Once again the people least likely to be affected by war appear to be more eager to join in. I thought rich people were supposed to be smart.

 

[Phazer]

I got two messages from this video:


1. I'm much less impressed with the Red Army now that I see that they're using poorly-trained conscripts as front line troops. These forces would be obliterated by well-trained, well-equipped, NATO forces led by the United States.

2. The Ukrainians are violating the Geneva Conventions by circulating images and videos of POWs for propaganda purposes.

 

[spat]

so just there toes got blood on them .. not the whole foot .. lol


man heels ..

LOL ..

 

[spat]

I got two messages from this video:


1. I'm much less impressed with the Red Army now that I see that they're using poorly-trained conscripts as front line troops. These forces would be obliterated by well-trained, well-equipped, NATO forces led by the United States.

2. The Ukrainians are violating the Geneva Conventions by circulating images and videos of POWs for propaganda purposes.

If the lessons learned from 1st Gulf war are still valid, that's doesn't really apply to all of NATO.

The Brits were the only other military involved that could properly integrate with the US.

Everyone else were relegated to minor inconsequential roles.

The British had the only other military that could even keep up during most operations, let alone meaningfully participate.

 

[Toecutter]

Perhaps in a sign of the times I had a very strange dream last night.

I dreamt that there was a Russian tank outside my house, but there was something wrong with it. It kept going in circles and the turret didn't move properly so it couldn't get a clear shot. Inside I was furiously trying to open my safe but I kept putting in the wrong combination. I finally got it open but then couldn't decide what rifle to pick up (I know...first world gun nut problems).

When I finally figured out which was the best to use I realized that none of the magazines were loaded. When I finally came across the ammunition I had trouble loading them into the mags. When I finally got a few filled up I loaded the rifle and opened the door only to see Russian ground troops walking across the lawn. Basically I was too late. Then I woke up.

Kind of a messed up way to wake up on a Saturday morning. I'm not really all that into dream interpretation but I wonder if it means something.

To me, it sounds like there is an issue that you really want to solve but have no ability to do so.

 

[holdover]

Perhaps in a sign of the times I had a very strange dream last night.

I dreamt that there was a Russian tank outside my house, but there was something wrong with it. It kept going in circles and the turret didn't move properly so it couldn't get a clear shot. Inside I was furiously trying to open my safe but I kept putting in the wrong combination. I finally got it open but then couldn't decide what rifle to pick up (I know...first world gun nut problems).

When I finally figured out which was the best to use I realized that none of the magazines were loaded. When I finally came across the ammunition I had trouble loading them into the mags. When I finally got a few filled up I loaded the rifle and opened the door only to see Russian ground troops walking across the lawn. Basically I was too late. Then I woke up.

Kind of a messed up way to wake up on a Saturday morning. I'm not really all that into dream interpretation but I wonder if it means something.

It means your having homosexual fantasies.

 

[holdover]

Fucking idiots, If a war breaks out with Russia, It would go nuclear very quickly,

 

[Phazer]

Fucking idiots, If a war breaks out with Russia, It would go nuclear very quickly,

Well, Putin seems to consider us to be at war:

Putin Calls Sanctions 'Act of War'

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Western sanctions were akin to war on Saturday as his forces pressed on with their assault on Ukraine, where planned civilian evacuations from two besieged cities were called off.Russia and Ukraine traded blame over the failure to...

www.newsmax.com

 

[togmaster]

Interesting poll numbers (if true). Once again the people least likely to be affected by war appear to be more eager to join in. I thought rich people were supposed to be smart.

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The rich people don't go to the front lines or even into battle for the most part.

 

[holdover]

Putin made clear a no-fly zone would result in the Kremlin's immediate declaration of war on any country intervening in such a way. The AP reported and translated his fresh comments made before civilian aviation industry members and pilots as follows:

A no-fly-zone would spell war for any third party who tries to enforce one over Ukraine, Vladimir Putin has said.
Speaking at a meeting with female pilots on Saturday, Putin said Russia would view “any move in this direction” as an intervention that "will pose a threat to our service members.”
“That very second, we will view them as participants of the military conflict, and it would not matter what members they are,” the Russian president said.

 

[holdover]

Well, Putin seems to consider us to be at war:

Putin Calls Sanctions 'Act of War'

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Western sanctions were akin to war on Saturday as his forces pressed on with their assault on Ukraine, where planned civilian evacuations from two besieged cities were called off.Russia and Ukraine traded blame over the failure to...

www.newsmax.com

Its an act of war. not necessarily meaning We are at war.

 

[Blimey]

Perhaps in a sign of the times I had a very strange dream last night.

I dreamt that there was a Russian tank outside my house, but there was something wrong with it. It kept going in circles and the turret didn't move properly so it couldn't get a clear shot. Inside I was furiously trying to open my safe but I kept putting in the wrong combination. I finally got it open but then couldn't decide what rifle to pick up (I know...first world gun nut problems).

When I finally figured out which was the best to use I realized that none of the magazines were loaded. When I finally came across the ammunition I had trouble loading them into the mags. When I finally got a few filled up I loaded the rifle and opened the door only to see Russian ground troops walking across the lawn. Basically I was too late. Then I woke up.

Kind of a messed up way to wake up on a Saturday morning. I'm not really all that into dream interpretation but I wonder if it means something.

No shit I have dreams like this all the time! Like I have to send an urgent txt and keep hitting the wrong keys or I have a gun but for some reason the trigger is incredibly hard to pull. I am pretty sure I’ve had the fumble while loading dream.

 

[Blimey]

Putin made clear a no-fly zone would result in the Kremlin's immediate declaration of war on any country intervening in such a way. The AP reported and translated his fresh comments made before civilian aviation industry members and pilots as follows:

I saw this but it still doesn’t mean he would use nukes.

As I thought he’s likening sanctions to a declaration of war also. I am positive that threat will accomplish nothing to slow them.

He is a cornered rat who put himself there through several strategic blunders. He may very well go down in history as both a monster and a joke when this is all said and done. Russia has lost any path to come out from this better than when they started.

 

[Mosinitis]

I got two messages from this video:


1. I'm much less impressed with the Red Army now that I see that they're using poorly-trained conscripts as front line troops. These forces would be obliterated by well-trained, well-equipped, NATO forces led by the United States.

2. The Ukrainians are violating the Geneva Conventions by circulating images and videos of POWs for propaganda purposes.

These are Donbass militias, not Russian military.

 

[Catskillkid]

To me, it sounds like there is an issue that you really want to solve but have no ability to do so.

Bruh, that's the story of my life. Especially right now.

Having said that, as a wise man once said, "I got 99 problems, but the bitch ain't one."

 

[Phazer]

Its an act of war. not necessarily meaning We are at war.

Fine.

But we seem to keep marching asymptotically up to that fine line.

I don't want more wars. I certainly don't want a nuclear exchange. But, we have to face the fact that military aggression in this case was 100% started by Putin. Russian apologists can gripe about "provocation of Russia" with NATO expansion. That argument falls short since there are already NATO countries on Russia's border from which no hostilities towards Russia have occurred.

If Putin is upset that he will not be able to establish The Russian Empire in his lifetime due to NATO expansion, tough! Fuck him! The days of adventurism and international land grabs are over.

We're rapidly approaching the need to call Putin's bluff. He's telling the world, "Don't mess with me...or I'll kill you all! Now, back to my empire building where I take countries on my way to kill you all."

We're getting to the point where we only have bad and worse choices to make. A review of world history shows us where naked international aggression by totalitarian dictators leads. It can lead to the establishment of an empire that spans the globe for centuries. It can also lead to world conflict. The problem is, nowadays world conflict could lead to worldwide cataclysm. In order to avoid that, do we need to cave to the dictators and allow them to establish their empires? THAT, I believe, is the primary issue at hand.

 

[prambo]

Interesting poll numbers (if true). Once again the people least likely to be affected by war appear to be more eager to join in. I thought rich people were supposed to be smart.

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Those under $50K either fight, get maimed or die in wars, or are the parents of those who do.

Those over $200K rarely are in any danger of that or, usually, anything.

Always follow the money.

 

[Mosinitis]

Fucking idiots, If a war breaks out with Russia, It would go nuclear very quickly,

This is because these self-righteous morons were indoctrinated to think no-fly zone is some kind of humanitarian mission. It's NATO's way to conduct a war without calling it a war.

 

[Bigfoot]

Frontal hit on a Russian MI-24 Hind helicopter by a Ukrainian anti-air missile.

 

[holdover]

A temporary ceasefire has been called for certain citys to evacuate civilians

 

[spat]

Putin made clear a no-fly zone would result in the Kremlin's immediate declaration of war on any country intervening in such a way. The AP reported and translated his fresh comments made before civilian aviation industry members and pilots as follows:

He can declare what he wants.

If they attack French or German airfields, that's another matter entirely.

 

[holdover]

I saw this but it still doesn’t mean he would use nukes.

As I thought he’s likening sanctions to a declaration of war also. I am positive that threat will accomplish nothing to slow them.

He is a cornered rat who put himself there through several strategic blunders. He may very well go down in history as both a monster and a joke when this is all said and done. Russia has lost any path to come out from this better than when they started.

Right. but once the cat is out of the bag and were at war, things could escalate quickly.

 

[spat]

A temporary ceasefire has been called for certain citys to evacuate civilians

More likely the Russians are unable or unwilling to proceed unto urban combat and are calling the ceasefire to obscure that fact.

 

[holdover]

He can declare what he wants.

If they attack French or German airfields, that's another matter entirely.

What other choice would he have?

 

[holdover]

More likely the Russians are unable or unwilling to proceed unto urban combat and are calling the ceasefire to obscure that fact.

Or they are trying to limit civilian casualties before they assault the city. Theres no doubt they dont want go in , its going to get real ugly if they do.

 

[spat]

Or they are trying to limit civilian casualties before they assault the city. Theres no doubt they dont want go in , its going to get real ugly if they do.

I'm not all that convinced Putin cares one bit for civilian casualties.

Hell, the only reason *we* care is because it's bad PR. Putin has that sewn up at home.

 

[Phazer]

Frontal hit on a Russian MI-24 Hind helicopter by a Ukrainian anti-air missile.

Watched that video on 0.25 speed. The missile hits the motor and the cockpit remains intact until it impacts the ground. Damn!

 

[dwa12479]

Perhaps in a sign of the times I had a very strange dream last night.

I dreamt that there was a Russian tank outside my house, but there was something wrong with it. It kept going in circles and the turret didn't move properly so it couldn't get a clear shot. Inside I was furiously trying to open my safe but I kept putting in the wrong combination. I finally got it open but then couldn't decide what rifle to pick up (I know...first world gun nut problems).

When I finally figured out which was the best to use I realized that none of the magazines were loaded. When I finally came across the ammunition I had trouble loading them into the mags. When I finally got a few filled up I loaded the rifle and opened the door only to see Russian ground troops walking across the lawn. Basically I was too late. Then I woke up.

Kind of a messed up way to wake up on a Saturday morning. I'm not really all that into dream interpretation but I wonder if it means something.

Unloaded mags are fancy paperweights.

 

[GOPerfect]

I find this too be rather awesome.

I wonder if the Left is still going to support The Ukraine....

 

[holdover]

They are not women, they dont menstrate, have ovaries, nor can they have children , they are freaks .They will always be freaks. they have a mental illness. and its being ignored.