Blimey
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who has been destroying the civilian infrastructure in Mariupol then?
Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)
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holdover
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Mariupol, is another matter. they wont leave anything alive when they're done with that place.
One step closer.
House Passes $1.5 Trillion Spending Bill With $13.6 Billion for Ukraine House Passes $1.5 Trillion Spending Bill With $13.6 Billion for Ukraine
House Passes $1.5 Trillion Spending Bill With $13.6 Billion for Ukraine House Passes $1.5 Trillion Spending Bill With $13.6 Billion for Ukraine
prambo
.475 A&M Magnum
I'm betting they were also "green" bombs, with an appropriately small "carbon footprint".
spat
.950 JDJ
The entire operation is terrorism.
The term is not typically used for overt state actions, but it meets the definition.
It is violence or the threat of to achieve political ends. That is the definition of terrorism. People don't usually use that word to describe a war, but it certainly applies.
Dr. Evil
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Or, it's a false flag by the Neo-Nazi faction of the Ukraine military which will be blamed on the Russians. Similar to the nuclear power plant episode.
A few years ago, Biden boasting about his blackmailing tactics in the Ukraine. But they want you to think Putin is the bad guy. He wanted the prosecutor to be fired because he was investigating Burisma, the company that his son Hunter was involved with. Did we forget??
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prambo
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Agreed.
And there is no question in my pea-brain that COVID was a worldwide terror attack.
There are a lot of people out there now who are living in complete terror of that pussy virus - they are irreparably "around the bend".
But, given that most were DemonRats suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome, the battlespace was already prepped, as it were.
Blimey
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I disagree wholeheartedly with the kremlin's misrepresentation of this being an economic war. It is merely a special economic operation.
Russia is better off without the West anyway. It doesn't need any of our technology or products. Comrades build the best products! Comrades make best tech!
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Russia is better off without the West anyway. It doesn't need any of our technology or products. Comrades build the best products! Comrades make best tech!
Russian economy in 'shock' from unprecedented economic war - Kremlin
The Kremlin said on Thursday that Russia's economy was experiencing a shock and that measures were being taken to soften the impact of what it described as an "absolutely unprecedented" economic war being waged against Moscow.
www.reuters.com
Phazer
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Russia Threatens Civilian Aviation, Public Transportation
Russia's foreign ministry has threatened civilian aviation and public transportation if other countries continue to provide arms to help Ukraine defend itself against President Vladimir Putin's unprovoked attack.
www.newsmax.com
I don't want to continue conflict. But, I espouse the peace-through-strength doctrine.
So, screw you Vlad!
According to Putin, everything is an act of war:
- Providing defensive weapons to Ukraine is an act of war
- Economic sanctions are an act of war
- Banning Russian civil aviation is an act of war
- Providing old Soviet-era fighters to Ukrainian pilots is an act of war.
You want to know what is really an act of war, Vlad? A GODDAMN ACT OF WAR where you invade a sovereign country, assault civilian centers, make overt threats to assassinate a nation's governmental authorities, and use banned weapons to accomplish your goals.
I don't give a damn about most of the politics of international relations. All countries correctly act in their own self interest. Hopefully, that self interest usually involves creating favorable trade deals and business mergers to acquire technology, food, and energy.
I understand that in international relations, might generally makes right. That said, I hate bullies...of any size. So, I despise the Russian regime that threatens to use nuclear weapons if anyone gets in their way as they march towards domination of Europe and then who knows where.
I don't buy moral equivalence arguments that, "Well...the U.S. uses force to accomplish what it wants." Fine. Then tell me about all of the land grabs by the U.S. in the last century? How many sovereign countries did we invade and hold under penalty of death? Where are the fiefdoms that we've created to pay tribute back to Washington? If we were the terrible empire that our adversaries say we are, we would be in control of the oil fields in Iraq and Kuwait. We would be strip mining Afghanistan for the rare-earth elements that we need to fuel our green energy initiatives. I understand that our adversaries see us as aggressive. Heck, we oppose their adventurism and they oppose our meddling in their spheres of interest.
Maybe M.A.D. does not hold any more. Maybe it does. But, having a nuclear weapon should not also be a Do-Whatever-You-Want card for any goddamn despotic totalitarian.
If we let the possession of a nuclear device give any nation veto power over our ability to protect ourselves and our allies, then we've already lost every future conflict and may as well just start speaking Mandarin.
Phazer
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Yeah. Fallout.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
loosely defined possibly. You can call police terrorists also , all depends on how much you want to stretch it.The US actions in Syria right now could be called terrorism by that standard, Isreal operations in Gaza could be called terrorism , Any war could be defined as terrorism .
Bombing a maturity ward on purpose? targeting babies?Sorry, Im not buying that unless I see a pattern ,Show me a pattern and ill have to consider it . A one off ? Nahhhhh,
BerettaGuy
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Russia’s Nuclear Doctrine "Escalate to De-escalate!"
Russia has adopted an “escalate to de-escalate” strategy and asserts that Russia “mistakenly assesses that the threat of
nuclear escalation or actual first use of nuclear weapons would serve to ‘de-escalate’ a conflict on
terms favorable to Russia. Don't worry though it will be a low-yield tactical nuke. In fact, your should be happy about it.
Russia has adopted an “escalate to de-escalate” strategy and asserts that Russia “mistakenly assesses that the threat of
nuclear escalation or actual first use of nuclear weapons would serve to ‘de-escalate’ a conflict on
terms favorable to Russia. Don't worry though it will be a low-yield tactical nuke. In fact, your should be happy about it.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Thats exactly why Russia invaded
spat
.950 JDJ
Police aren't generally attempting to effect political change with their actions.
Doesn't matter how heinous an act is, it's the motivation that makes it terror.
That's why Stephen Paddock wasn't a terrorist, as far as we can tell, despite murdering 60 people, but the founding fathers dumping the tea in the harbor was.
Is the goal political, or something else. That's what matters.
prambo
.475 A&M Magnum
Also posted elsewhere...
Oceania Has Always Been At War With Russia
"Of course, the first causality of war is truth.
As Putin took military action in Ukraine, plausible deniability was afforded to Big Brother and false justification was used to change the narrative on COVID, diminish and vilify the American People’s Convoy (because we are at WAR, dammit!), legitimize inflationary economic collapse, and… eventually…. shut down the internet and blame Putin for responding to economic sanctions and/or military retaliation with… wait for it…. cyberattacks..
Even “conservative” pundits like Hannity, O’Reilly, Levin, and others, immediately jumped upon the jingoistic war train and with expectations for a red wave in the mid-term elections; peace through strength, and all that jazz.
The point is this: The channel was changed to Russia and Ukraine, all the time, for both Democrat and Republican politicos and pundits alike."
Oceania Has Always Been At War With Russia
"Of course, the first causality of war is truth.
As Putin took military action in Ukraine, plausible deniability was afforded to Big Brother and false justification was used to change the narrative on COVID, diminish and vilify the American People’s Convoy (because we are at WAR, dammit!), legitimize inflationary economic collapse, and… eventually…. shut down the internet and blame Putin for responding to economic sanctions and/or military retaliation with… wait for it…. cyberattacks..
Even “conservative” pundits like Hannity, O’Reilly, Levin, and others, immediately jumped upon the jingoistic war train and with expectations for a red wave in the mid-term elections; peace through strength, and all that jazz.
The point is this: The channel was changed to Russia and Ukraine, all the time, for both Democrat and Republican politicos and pundits alike."
Uninformed and Compliant
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You forgot to mention that all of those are armed with a Glock.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
As many of us already knew, Ukraine was never some bastion of freedom standing against Russian aggression. Ukraine has a very dark past.
As these two countries slug it out, I am all the more adamant that American troops not be placed in harm's way during this conflict.
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As these two countries slug it out, I am all the more adamant that American troops not be placed in harm's way during this conflict.
Why are so many Idolizing Zelensky and Ukraine?
If my dear mother, a Holocaust survivor, was alive, she would have this to say about Ukraine: 'Loz em brennan' (let them burn). To help unde...
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Motherfuckers. Unbelievable. So angry I can't think straight. We are living under a completely rogue government. Lots of people need to go to jail. Alot of people deserve to be shot.It's amazing that Victoria Nuland said she is concerned that Russia could get the bioweapons. She's 100% sure if there's a biological attack it's Russia. Very impressive that she is so confident and knows exactly what will happen. Can you say false flag? Remember, they claimed the biolabs didn't exist. On top of that CIA director Burns said they have intel that Putin is going to use nuclear weapons on a Ukrainian city. This is how panicked they are because Russia has all of the documentation. What happens if we see the same pattern in Taiwan? How will they explain all of this?
The jig is up. They found it all. Again, after the cluster fuck of the last 2 years and what our own government has done to us I have no reason to doubt this I'm sad to say.
Arjuna
.338 Win Mag
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
So the USA not only has biological weapons in Ukraine but is too stupid to remove them during a multi-month build up of Russian forces on the border? Nobody thought to remove them during this period? The source of this information is the same source that in the past 24 hours has denied even invading Ukraine. I'm not surprised dr evil bought this hook, line, and sinker but nobody else should be buying this.
prambo
.475 A&M Magnum
As many of us already knew, Ukraine was never some bastion of freedom standing against Russian aggression. Ukraine has a very dark past.
As these two countries slug it out, I am all the more adamant that American troops not be placed in harm's way during this conflict.
Why are so many Idolizing Zelensky and Ukraine?
If my dear mother, a Holocaust survivor, was alive, she would have this to say about Ukraine: 'Loz em brennan' (let them burn). To help unde...
Interesting history about Ukrainian units in WWII...
There was a Waffen SS unit - 14. SS-Freiwilligen Division "Galizien".
14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Ukrainian)
There were others, including a unit comprised of Russians, Belarussians and Ukrainians - 30th SS Waffen Grenadier - which, interestingly, saw a battalion defect to the French Underground.
A Violent Defection – How a Battalion of Ukrainian SS Troops Mutinied and Joined the French Resistance - MilitaryHistoryNow.com
There were a number of Waffen SS units comprised totally, or in part, of many nationalities, not just Ukrainians...
List of Waffen-SS divisions - Wikipedia
You must have missed the public testimony of Victoria Nuland yesterday before the Senate where she admitted it. The source is the US government. Is that legitimate enough for you? It is for me.
Tucker Carlson Outlines Ukraine Biological Research Labs During Segment That Triggered State Department Response - The Last Refuge
This is the opening monologue from Fox News host Tucker Carlson that triggered a reaction from the U.S. State Department. Last week it was a conspiracy theory to discuss biological weapons/research labs in Ukraine. However, what was a conspiracy theory last week, is an admitted situation as of...
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Motherfuckers. I want heads to roll but of course they won't.
Blimey
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I gave that video 5:15 and stopped where Tucker lied.You must have missed the public testimony of Victoria Nuland yesterday before the Senate where she admitted it. The source is the US government. Is that legitimate enough for you? It is for me.
Tucker Carlson Outlines Ukraine Biological Research Labs During Segment That Triggered State Department Response - The Last Refuge
This is the opening monologue from Fox News host Tucker Carlson that triggered a reaction from the U.S. State Department. Last week it was a conspiracy theory to discuss biological weapons/research labs in Ukraine. However, what was a conspiracy theory last week, is an admitted situation as of...
Motherfuckers. I want heads to roll but of course they won't.
There are laboratories in Ukraine that have dangerous specimens (e.g. plague). This is no secret, and I found an article from 2020 on a US Gov website freely stating the same.
The question is bioweapons. So back to the lie tucker just told: She was asked whether ukraine had bioweapons. She simply did not answer that question. His assertion that she admitted under oath that the russian claims are true is itself a lie.
And for your question:
"The source is the US government. Is that legitimate enough for you? It is for me."
Great! Then you'll have no problem taking the comments of pentagon spokesman john kirby as gospel when he calls the accusations absurd and malarkey:
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spat
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US has the problem that they want to conduct bio and chemical weapons research that is illegal for them to conduct on US soil.
This is the same problem they had with detaining people in the war on terror.
We've got people locked up in Cuba because if we locked them up here they would get lawyers.
It's widely acknowledged that the us had other black sites around the world to conduct interrogations that would have been illegal to conduct on US territory.
While I certainly can't say for sure that these sites are what they are accused of, it seems quite likely they are.
Moving BSL IV specimens and research material is probably not as easy as shipping a crate of missiles.
Also, not sure why we're worried about Russia getting their hands on them. They have plenty of their own. That would be like worrying about Russia getting their hands on some of our weapons grade plutonium. This is not even close to the same situation it would be if Iran were about to capture them.
It's the research data itself that would be valuable to Russia, and that can be emailed and deleted.
But, proof of the existence of the labs is another matter entirely.
"She simply did not answer the question."I gave that video 5:15 and stopped where Tucker lied.
There are laboratories in Ukraine that have dangerous specimens (e.g. plague). This is no secret, and I found an article from 2020 on a US Gov website freely stating the same.
The question is bioweapons. So back to the lie tucker just told: She was asked whether ukraine had bioweapons. She simply did not answer that question. His assertion that she admitted under oath that the russian claims are true is itself a lie.
And for your question:
"The source is the US government. Is that legitimate enough for you? It is for me."
Great! Then you'll have no problem taking the comments of pentagon spokesman john kirby as gospel when he calls the accusations absurd and malarkey:
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