Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)

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Before the war began, Russia had 1 million active duty, 2 million reserves, Yet they chose to attack a force of 900,000 Ukrainian's with 150-200 thousand men.WTF? How are you going to hold a country of 44 million people? You dont have to be Karl Von Clausewitz to know how this ends. They have gained air superiority in the east and have done nothing. They send supply convoys down unsecured roads over and over . They dont seek to engauge the enemy in the field and destroy him. They dont seem to be using the secure airports they have taken for resupply. They dont use thier airforce and air assault troops to cut the supply lines , any supply trucks on those routes to the main citys should be toast. Between Liviv and keiv the main roads should be impassable due to airstrikes and ambush from air assault or special forces. . Nothing they do makes any military sense. Im beginning to think this is just a big dog and pony show to collapse the global economy .
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No, Putin is just dumb. He has yes men for advisors. They're scared shirtless to disagree with him in any way. Putin thought that 30-50% of Ukraine's military would join up with Russia. Yeah really. None of his advisors were willing to speak reality to him.
 
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This was just reported during Russian briefing. One of the SBU (Ukrainian Security Services) officers of Donbass region has surrendered to the Russian authorities with information on already staged and planned provocations by SBU.
There are planned false flag attacks on U.S. and other Western embassies in Lviv with intent to push NATO to create a No-Fly zone and increase military aid.
 
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SonOfSun said:
No, Putin is just dumb. He has yes men for advisors. They're scared shirtless to disagree with him in any way. Putin thought that 30-50% of Ukraine's military would join up with Russia. Yeah really. None of his advisors were willing to speak reality to him.
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Yes men are the bane of anyone in a leadership position
 
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holdover said:
Before the war began, Russia had 1 million active duty, 2 million reserves, Yet they chose to attack a force of 900,000 Ukrainian's with 150-200 thousand men.WTF? How are you going to hold a country of 44 million people? You dont have to be Karl Von Clausewitz to know how this ends. They have gained air superiority in the east and have done nothing. They send supply convoys down unsecured roads over and over . They dont seek to engauge the enemy in the field and destroy him. They dont seem to be using the secure airports they have taken for resupply. They dont use thier airforce and air assault troops to cut the supply lines , any supply trucks on those routes to the main citys should be toast. Between Liviv and keiv the main roads should be impassable due to airstrikes and ambush from air assault or special forces. . Nothing they do makes any military sense. Im beginning to think this is just a big dog and pony show to collapse the global economy .
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I think it's safe to say the Russians were overconfident their initial attack would be more decisive and that the quality of their armed forces would more than offset the disparity in numbers.
 
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tirwin1 said:
I think it's safe to say the Russians were overconfident their initial attack would be more decisive and that the quality of their armed forces would more than offset the disparity in numbers.
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That gives the enemy a 4.5 to 1 advantage to begin the fight, which requires a minimum of 3-1. They began the attack with the majority of green conscripts so the quality of thier armed forces would not overcome a numerical advantage of that size .
Basic rules of warfare dictate you need a 3-1 advantage to attack and a 5 to1 advantage to attack a defended position. Its simply outrageous to say, Russians are just dumb. Thats totally unacceptable. People are dumb, Ill buy that.

Think about it, they dont have enough troops to encircle the major citys , how in hell are you going to assault them? You cant surround them and you cant take them with the forces they have in Ukraine.

The Russians have been fighting in the Ukraine since 2014, and The Russians didnt wargame out an attack? I cant accept this . These are professional officers.
 
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I saw about a dozen videos where people complained they were prevented from leaving by Ukrainian military. Let's not forget men ages 18 to 60 are forbidden to leave as an official order. If there are cars driven by men, Ukrainian Nationalists open fire on them even if there are women and children in the vehicle.
 
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Could be why the man and Washington keep saying booze alone by Russia could be used; even if we have to do it ourselves for them.
 
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