Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Couldn't we just put all the high level political leaders in a single room with rusty axes and let them sort it out amongst themselves?
Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)
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Rusty?
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
With the numbers of videos I've seen where Ukrainian citizens are telling stories of Ukrainian military shelling their own buildings, I have no doubt Ukraine would use chems on their own people.
spat
.950 JDJ
If you told me the CIA snuck in and did it behind everyone elses back I would find it plausible.
No way anyone on this forum can know what's true and what's propaganda for any of these claims.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Tetanus.
Are we going to watch white helmets spraying water and resuscitating tattooed Neo-Nazis? These images will be PRICELESS!
Russia will be accused of every sin of war, because Ukraine can't win it and will do everything it can to draw in NATO.
Russia will be accused of every sin of war, because Ukraine can't win it and will do everything it can to draw in NATO.
Martin Scorsese isn't on set either. Can't pump out the B.S fast enough.
prambo
.475 A&M Magnum
Also posted elsewhere...
Rather a strong and, IMHO, deserved verbal evisceration of the Neo-Cons and War-Mongers - but I repeat myself...
Chris Hedges: The Pimps of War
"They are pimps of war, puppets of the Pentagon, a state within a state, and the defense contractors who lavishly fund their think tanks — Project for the New American Century, American Enterprise Institute, Foreign Policy Initiative, Institute for the Study of War, Atlantic Council and Brookings Institute. Like some mutant strain of an antibiotic-resistant bacteria, they cannot be vanquished. It does not matter how wrong they are, how absurd their theories, how many times they lie or denigrate other cultures and societies as uncivilized or how many murderous military interventions go bad. They are immovable props, the parasitic mandarins of power that are vomited up in the dying days of any empire, including that of the U.S., leaping from one self-defeating catastrophe to the next."
"They did not serve in the military. Their children do not serve in the military. But they eagerly ship young American men and women off to fight and die for their self-delusional dreams of empire and American hegemony. Or, as in Ukraine, they provide hundreds of millions of dollars in weaponry and logistical support to sustain long and bloody proxy wars."
Rather a strong and, IMHO, deserved verbal evisceration of the Neo-Cons and War-Mongers - but I repeat myself...
Chris Hedges: The Pimps of War
"They are pimps of war, puppets of the Pentagon, a state within a state, and the defense contractors who lavishly fund their think tanks — Project for the New American Century, American Enterprise Institute, Foreign Policy Initiative, Institute for the Study of War, Atlantic Council and Brookings Institute. Like some mutant strain of an antibiotic-resistant bacteria, they cannot be vanquished. It does not matter how wrong they are, how absurd their theories, how many times they lie or denigrate other cultures and societies as uncivilized or how many murderous military interventions go bad. They are immovable props, the parasitic mandarins of power that are vomited up in the dying days of any empire, including that of the U.S., leaping from one self-defeating catastrophe to the next."
"They did not serve in the military. Their children do not serve in the military. But they eagerly ship young American men and women off to fight and die for their self-delusional dreams of empire and American hegemony. Or, as in Ukraine, they provide hundreds of millions of dollars in weaponry and logistical support to sustain long and bloody proxy wars."
Russia 'moves military equipment including missile systems near Finnish border'
After Vladimir Putin maintained that his faltering invasion of Ukraine would still prevail, deadly military equipment has been filmed moving toward the Finnish border amid another NATO row
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
Didn't realize my peeps had a good lookin prime minister. And only 36, damn.Russia 'moves military equipment including missile systems near Finnish border'
After Vladimir Putin maintained that his faltering invasion of Ukraine would still prevail, deadly military equipment has been filmed moving toward the Finnish border amid another NATO rowwww.mirror.co.uk
spat
.950 JDJ
Because invading Finland has worked so well for them in the past LOL.Russia 'moves military equipment including missile systems near Finnish border'
After Vladimir Putin maintained that his faltering invasion of Ukraine would still prevail, deadly military equipment has been filmed moving toward the Finnish border amid another NATO row
If they try that every country in the hemisphere will want to join NATO.
And we'll find out what the next generation of Simo Hayha's can do with a SAKO TRG 42 in place of that old Mosin.
Second wave of Winter War, when Russians brought in heavy artillery was a cake walk. Finland lost Winter War, 11% of its territory and 30% of its industrial base. It lost Continuation War as well. Mannerheim saved his ass by pulling out of WWII when it was clear Germany was losing. Finland learned the hard way that neutrality brings peace.
Finland was neutral before the war. That didn't stop the Russians from demanding territory from them, which was the cause of the war.
To describe the russian operation as a cake walk ignores their initial slaughter at the hands of the Fins. It was precisely their incompetence that led Hitler to believe he could invade and conquer Russia. Same thing is happening now. There are increasing calls for US and NATO action against Russia precisely because of their poor performance in combat. I don't agree with that line of thinking but I hope the Russians realize absolutely huge casualties.
You are unable to comprehend the meaning of what you read. I specifically stated "SECOND WAVE". Russian losses in the first wave are well known. Very successful second wave is rarely mentioned.
Finland gained independence under Bolshevik government of Russia in 1918, there were no solid borders. As the world was preparing for another war, Finns were asked to move their border 11 miles on a thin stretch of land and offered to be compensated with territory in another area. This was done to get two Russian major cities out of artillery range from Finnish territory. Finland could have easily avoided the war, but it refused. Finland wasn't neutral, it had strong ties to Germany that go back to Finnish Civil War.
No solid borders, but they were "asked" to move a non-solid border 11 miles. I'm sure they said please when asking. Your devotion to nonsense is rather remarkable.
If someone was dropping toxic agents over your neighborhood would you video it or do something else with the limited time you had to prepare?
Not saying it's true or not in this instance since I don't know - however people not breaking out a camera doesn't mean much either.
Are you serious? Cameras are one of the first things bought out these days. In every city and in every nation.
There were guys that wer shot in NYC yesterday and as they were bleeding all over the place, they were taking selfies.
They would have received more land than what they would give up.
Here is a video of an ammonia plant leaking a very decent amount.
There are videos, I had to look a bit. Apparently the Ukrainian Army shelled this plant. I gotta wonder why they would do this?
The ukrainians are desperate to get NATO (primarily the US) involved in this war. Can't say I blame them. It does mean that I will not take at face value any of their claims regarding war crimes. That's not to say the russians aren't guilty of war crimes. It just means that until there is rock-solid evidence I won't believe any claim coming out of that region.
This has been my point since the beginning.
Some have confused all of this as I back and support Russia.
Just pointing out the propaganda, the lies and maybe the truth from all sides whenever possible.
1341
.45 acp
Daring response, you might be accused of being one of those......people
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
I'm sure they knew exactly what they were doing. Ammonia is no joke either. Even with rail car leaks they'll evacuate entire towns near it.
Deadly shit.
Oops.
news.usni.org
"State media did not elaborate on the cause of the fire". Are Russian ships prone to catching fire on their own?
UPDATED: Russia Says Damaged Cruiser Moskva Sank Under Tow Headed to Black Sea Homeport - USNI News
This story has been updated to include a report from Russian state media Moskva has sunk. Russian Navy’s Black Sea flagship RTS Moskva (121) has sunk while being towed toward Sevastopol, Crimea, after sustaining major damage in a fire Wednesday, Russian state media said on Thursday. “During the...
news.usni.org
"State media did not elaborate on the cause of the fire". Are Russian ships prone to catching fire on their own?
Oops.
UPDATED: Russia Says Damaged Cruiser Moskva Sank Under Tow Headed to Black Sea Homeport - USNI News
This story has been updated to include a report from Russian state media Moskva has sunk. Russian Navy’s Black Sea flagship RTS Moskva (121) has sunk while being towed toward Sevastopol, Crimea, after sustaining major damage in a fire Wednesday, Russian state media said on Thursday. “During the...
"State media did not elaborate on the cause of the fire". Are Russian ships prone to catching fire on their own?
If the ukraines did this, this war is getting ready to really escalate.
Wait and see.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
“It has been confirmed that the missile cruiser Moskva today went exactly where it was sent by our border guards on Snake Island!”Oops.
UPDATED: Russia Says Damaged Cruiser Moskva Sank Under Tow Headed to Black Sea Homeport - USNI News
This story has been updated to include a report from Russian state media Moskva has sunk. Russian Navy’s Black Sea flagship RTS Moskva (121) has sunk while being towed toward Sevastopol, Crimea, after sustaining major damage in a fire Wednesday, Russian state media said on Thursday. “During the...
"State media did not elaborate on the cause of the fire". Are Russian ships prone to catching fire on their own?
Here we go with that Snake Island bs again.