Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)

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prambo said:
Ohhhhh....da wittle fUSA is mad at Vlady, so they'll take their ball and run home to Mommy.

Pathetic and infantile - I seriously wish I'd acquired Kenyan citizenship when I was married to my 2nd ex.

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This perfectly describes our country. Full of empty symbolic gestures that are irrelevant. But the ruling class is probably slapping each other on their backs talking about how we "owned" the russians.

Pathetic.
 
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I get that, but i wonder if the best answer is to point missles back, not invade and kill innocent people. Or bribe the country on your border with enough money that they wont consider taking bribes from other non neighboring countries.
 
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The Female Fighters of Ukraine's Forgotten War​


A forgotten conflict has been tearing apart eastern Ukraine since 2014. Now women represent nearly a quarter of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, but their involvement in the conflict is not always accepted.

Ukrainian sniper Yulia left her children behind to join the war on the country's icy fringes. "When our soldiers started dying, we couldn't just stand by. If you don't want to bury your own, then you need to bury others", she says. However, not all of her male comrades agree with her presence on the frontline. "For us, it's strange to see women involved in war. I understand feminism, equality and all that, but war isn't women's business", says her male commander Vasily, speaking from a bunker near enemy lines. Her involvement has also taken a toll on her relationship with her daughter. "She understands, but at the same time it hurts her because for the last four - almost five years I haven't been with them", says Yulia. Olga used to work at Donetsk International Airport, which was destroyed in the conflict. She now lives a stone's throw from the demarcation line. "We're scared to stay here, but we have no choice", she says, "we're hostages here." Whether taking up arms or raising a family, these women soldiers all share a common objective: to get back to normal life.
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Zelenskyy Says He Needs $7 Billion Per Month Western Government Subsidy to Sustain Economy​

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy told the International Monetary Fund today he needs $7 billion per month in global subsidy in order to supplement the economic losses currently being incurred.

Ukraine has a nominal GDP of around $155 billion in 2021. At 7 billion a month, that would be around $84 billion for a year or more than half of Ukraine’s GDP. It is predicted that Ukraine’s GDP will decrease by $45 billion in 2022.

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Zelenskyy Says He Needs $7 Billion Per Month Western Government Subsidy to Sustain Economy - The Last Refuge

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy told the International Monetary Fund today he needs $7 billion per month in global subsidy in order to supplement the economic losses currently being incurred. (VIA CNN) – “Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said on Thursday that Ukraine needs $7...
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From the comments section posted above
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April 21, 2022 10:25 pm


Let’s see…that’s $5.6 Billion for Ukraine, $700 Million for Hunter, and $700 Million for the Big Guy. Oops..I left out the other politicians like Pelosi, Kingzinger, McConnell, Schumer, etc, etc, etc.
That will wittle it down to @ $3 Billion a month. He should have asked for more.
 
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History Lesson Time: Sixteen days after Germany invaded Poland from the west, the Soviet Union invaded Poland from the east.
The Soviets then invaded Finland on 30 November 1939, three months after the outbreak of World War II.

Despite superior military strength, especially in tanks and aircraft, the Soviet Union suffered severe losses and initially made little headway.

Seems like they are using the same military doctrine. ATTACK! Or be shot, comrade!
Deja Vu all over again.
 
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Mosinitis said:
No assault, this will be a siege.

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BerettaGuy said:
History Lesson Time: Sixteen days after Germany invaded Poland from the west, the Soviet Union invaded Poland from the east.
The Soviets then invaded Finland on 30 November 1939, three months after the outbreak of World War II.

Despite superior military strength, especially in tanks and aircraft, the Soviet Union suffered severe losses and initially made little headway.

Seems like they are using the same military doctrine. ATTACK! Or be shot, comrade!
Deja Vu all over again.
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Yeah, it does seem their leadership is lacking . what worked before will will work again idea, and they're right, but there's better ways to do it .

Economy of force doesn't seem to fit in their doctrine . It looks like they didn't learn anything about our invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.

phase 2 will tell a lot, but there hasnt been much ground fighting just yet, mostly preparation fires from arty and air assests. I believe they are still retrofitting their units .

One thing they must have learned is a shallow wide front is better than a long deep attack, thier flanks were constantly exposed no way to secure it.
 
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This is interesting:

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Not the best time to be a russian oligarch I guess.
 
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Col Douglas Macgregor Delivers Truth Bombs Surrounding Ukraine Conflict and Status of $4.7 Billion Spent Sending U.S. Equipment and Aid​

Colonel Douglas Macgregor appeared on Tucker Carlson to give a brutally honest assessment of the conflict in Ukraine. Regarding the transfer of heavy weapons and artillery, Macgregor notes something many have discussed.

The logistics of sending in those weapons from western Ukraine (Poland border) to the eastern Ukraine battle encompasses a thousand-mile trek. Russia can easily hit those convoys en route, negating the supply line. Additionally, the U.S. has sent $4.7 billion in military equipment and financial aid so far (see graphic below), and we have no idea who is in control of those weapons. WATCH:

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Col Douglas Macgregor Delivers Truth Bombs Surrounding Ukraine Conflict and Status of $4.7 Billion Spent Sending U.S. Equipment and Aid - The Last Refuge

Colonel Douglas Macgregor appeared on Tucker Carlson to give a brutally honest assessment of the conflict in Ukraine. Regarding the transfer of heavy weapons and artillery, Macgregor notes something many have discussed. The logistics of sending in those weapons from western Ukraine (Poland...
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How much of the $1B in weapons and resources to Ukraine ended up in Russian hands?​


 
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