Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)
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Russia Starts To Fight For-Real: Overview Of Strikes In Ukraine
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12.10.22 ⚡️ Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the deNAZIfication of Ukraine
⚡️ Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine (October 12, 2022)
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NATO takes a shit on 9/11 memorials and jumps back in bed with AlQaeda and ISIS. This is what happens, because CIA was never held accountable for creating AlQaeda. War on terror should have started with going after CIA.
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It appears that using drones as spotters for artillery is effective. If a military observer watching the drone footage sees enemy vehicles getting into concealment, they have no place to hide.
So many soldiers in these video clips died never knowing what hit them. The before and after images of the Russian missile launchers in the trees is shocking.
[Note: Yes, these cherry picked images released to The Sun by Ukraine are propaganda. But, the technology is still impressive.]
So many soldiers in these video clips died never knowing what hit them. The before and after images of the Russian missile launchers in the trees is shocking.
[Note: Yes, these cherry picked images released to The Sun by Ukraine are propaganda. But, the technology is still impressive.]
This video was made before the war but has some useful information.
Not that I was researching how to hide from drones or anything.....
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In all fairness to be accurate that zelensky jersey with the swastika has been photoshopped that isn't genuine.
But everything else is
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Left lower image with jersey is known to be a Photoshopped image
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Kindly, see above and ditto.
Ok, here's a scenario
What are the odds in the near future NATO countries like US, UK, Poland will deploy troops into western Ukraine as peacekeepers to discourage Russian advances and strikes.
What are the odds in the near future NATO countries like US, UK, Poland will deploy troops into western Ukraine as peacekeepers to discourage Russian advances and strikes.
There is a reason NATO ran away from Ukraine. Russians warned they will use "military-technological" means if it didn't. Publically nothing was said beyond that. There is lots of speculation about the levarage they used. This probably still a discouraging factor.
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I disagree... It looks like NATO has been running full speed towards Ukraine.
And that's concerning for me. I want no part of this
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LOL, this guy is so wrong about a lot of things.
Iranian state news claimed the Saegheh-1 could carry four Sadid-1 precision-guided anti-tank guided missile
The Shahed 129 (Persian: شاهد ۱۲۹, English: "witness", "martyr"; sometimes S129) is an Iranian single-engine medium-altitude long-endurance unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV) designed by Shahed Aviation Industries for the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). The Shahed 129 is capable of combat and reconnaissance missions and has an endurance of 24 hours; it is similar in size, shape and role to the American MQ-1 Predator[5] and is widely considered as one of the most capable drones in Iranian service.
The UAV has been used for airstrikes in the Syrian Civil War and for border patrol on Iran's eastern border.[3] Together with the Saegheh, the Shahed 129 is expected to form the backbone of Iran's high-end UAV fleet for at least the next decade.[3]
The Mohajer-6 (Persian: پهپاد مهاجر-6) is an ISTAR[1] UAV capable of carrying a multispectral surveillance payload and/or up to four precision-guided munitions.Ten have been manufactured as of February 2018 for the IRGC Ground Forces,[2] and 40 are planned for the IRGC Navy.[2] The Mohajer-6 complements the larger Shahed 129 operated by the third IRGC branch, the IRGC-ASF.[citation needed] Three have also been delivered to the Iranian Army.[3]
The Mohajer-6 entered serial production in February 2018.[4] As with other members of the Mohajer family, the Mohajer-6 is made of composite.[5]
It has a fixed, forward facing camera for navigation and a gimbal on the chin for a laser range finder and multispectral IR and visible light electro-optical imagery.[8] The Mohajer-6 has three antennas, two on its left wing and one on its right, and a pitot tube on its nose. The Mohajer-6 has two main variants. The A variant has two hardpoints, one under each wing, which can each carry one Qaem TV/IR-guided missile or one Almas missile.[2][a] Whilst the B variant has 4 hardpoints, with 2 under each wing carrying the same types of missiles. It has an autopilot system capable of automatic takeoff and landing. In addition, Iran describes it as capable of being fitted with electronic support measures, communications jamming, or electronic warfare payloads.[8]
Iran’s latest drone capabilities, documented in photos from a recent Iranian drone exercise, were captured by Iran’s Fars News and a Ukrainian website named Defense Express. The Ukrainian report alleges that Iran has copied Israel’s Spike anti-tank missile and installed it on a drone.
www.jpost.com
The relatively cheap drone is fired in multiples from a launch rack (in batches of five upwards) and is designed to evade air defenses and overwhelm ground targets, consuming air defense resources during the attack. The drone was revealed in December 2021 through published footage. The system is believed to first have been actively deployed to Houthi-controlled areas in Yemen.[5]
In the months prior to the confirmation of their use, US intelligence sources and Ukrainian officials have claimed that Iran had supplied Russia with several hundred drones including Shahed-136s, although Iran has repeatedly denied this.[21] Iran has yet to officially announce the delivery of any form of military aid to Russia, although Major General Salami has alluded that "major world powers are using Iranian-made arms".[22]
On 13 September 2022, initial use of the drone was indicated by photos of the remains of a Shahed-136 inscribed with Russian: Герань-2, lit. 'Geranium'-2,[12] operated by Russian forces during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine.[11][23] According to Rodion Kulahin, the Ukrainian artillery commander of the 92nd Brigade, Shahed 136 drones destroyed four howitzers and two BTRs during the Kharkiv counter-offensive.[24] On 23 September, further use of the drones was recorded in Odesa, where videos of their flyover and subsequent impact were uploaded on various Telegram channels. Notably, the drones were audibly engaged with small arms fire, which did not seem to have shot down any of the aircraft. On 25 September, videos posted on social media shows intensified use of the drone by the Russian forces around Odesa and Dnipro cities. This time, along with small arms, some form of anti-aircraft rotary cannon was employed, along with surface-to-air missiles, downing at least one Geran. A number of the drones were able to hit unknown targets, although there are claims the Ukrainian Navy Headquarters in Odessa was hit.[25][26]
In response to these initial attacks, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has denounced it as "a collaboration with evil". Diplomatic ties between Iran and Ukraine were reduced in Ukraine as another consequence of the attacks.[27]
On October 5, 2022 a Geranium drone bombed barracks hosting soldiers from the 72nd Mechanized Brigade in Bila Tserkva.[28]
Ukrainian soldiers claim they can be heard from several kilometers away and are vulnerable to small arms fire.[29]
Ukrainian sources stated they deployed MiG-29 fighter aircraft to shoot down these drones with success, claiming that they used a similar
strategy to shoot down cruise missiles such as the Kalibr.[30]
In the morning of October 17th Kyiv was once again attacked by several of these drones, and once again they were engaged by massed ground fire from small-caliber automatic weapons, as captured on video in a number of instances. Despite the presence of these and more adequate air-defense systems, the drones reportedly managed to hit several locations, including the offices of Ukrenergo. Other energy infrastructure facilities were also reported to be attacked, leading to concerns of blackouts around the affected infrastructure. 4 civilians in Kyiv were killed in the strike.[34][35][36]
The Ukrainian Minister of Internal Affairs has told civilians to stop attempting to shoot down drones with their personal firearms, urging them to "leave the matter to law enforcement officers and the military".[37] The cost-benefit analysis of using these drones in strikes versus the defending air defense is in favor of the Shahed drones, being about half the cost of the defenses- such as emplaced surface-to-air missile systems- employed against them.[3] The shooting down of the drones after they have reached cities can lead to large-scale collateral damage.[3]
en.wikipedia.org
Saegheh-1[edit]
The Saegheh-1 was first presented at an Iranian arms expo in 2016.Iranian state news claimed the Saegheh-1 could carry four Sadid-1 precision-guided anti-tank guided missile
The Shahed 129 (Persian: شاهد ۱۲۹, English: "witness", "martyr"; sometimes S129) is an Iranian single-engine medium-altitude long-endurance unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV) designed by Shahed Aviation Industries for the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). The Shahed 129 is capable of combat and reconnaissance missions and has an endurance of 24 hours; it is similar in size, shape and role to the American MQ-1 Predator[5] and is widely considered as one of the most capable drones in Iranian service.
The UAV has been used for airstrikes in the Syrian Civil War and for border patrol on Iran's eastern border.[3] Together with the Saegheh, the Shahed 129 is expected to form the backbone of Iran's high-end UAV fleet for at least the next decade.[3]
The Mohajer-6 (Persian: پهپاد مهاجر-6) is an ISTAR[1] UAV capable of carrying a multispectral surveillance payload and/or up to four precision-guided munitions.Ten have been manufactured as of February 2018 for the IRGC Ground Forces,[2] and 40 are planned for the IRGC Navy.[2] The Mohajer-6 complements the larger Shahed 129 operated by the third IRGC branch, the IRGC-ASF.[citation needed] Three have also been delivered to the Iranian Army.[3]
The Mohajer-6 entered serial production in February 2018.[4] As with other members of the Mohajer family, the Mohajer-6 is made of composite.[5]
It has a fixed, forward facing camera for navigation and a gimbal on the chin for a laser range finder and multispectral IR and visible light electro-optical imagery.[8] The Mohajer-6 has three antennas, two on its left wing and one on its right, and a pitot tube on its nose. The Mohajer-6 has two main variants. The A variant has two hardpoints, one under each wing, which can each carry one Qaem TV/IR-guided missile or one Almas missile.[2][a] Whilst the B variant has 4 hardpoints, with 2 under each wing carrying the same types of missiles. It has an autopilot system capable of automatic takeoff and landing. In addition, Iran describes it as capable of being fitted with electronic support measures, communications jamming, or electronic warfare payloads.[8]
Iran’s latest drone capabilities, documented in photos from a recent Iranian drone exercise, were captured by Iran’s Fars News and a Ukrainian website named Defense Express. The Ukrainian report alleges that Iran has copied Israel’s Spike anti-tank missile and installed it on a drone.
Did Iran copy Israeli missiles for its drone production? | The Jerusalem Post
A Ukrainian report claiming that Iran copied Israel's Spike anti-missile tank and put it on a drone has been circulating in Iran - exactly how Iran wants.
www.jpost.com
HESA Shahed 136 swarming drone
The relatively cheap drone is fired in multiples from a launch rack (in batches of five upwards) and is designed to evade air defenses and overwhelm ground targets, consuming air defense resources during the attack. The drone was revealed in December 2021 through published footage. The system is believed to first have been actively deployed to Houthi-controlled areas in Yemen.[5]
In the months prior to the confirmation of their use, US intelligence sources and Ukrainian officials have claimed that Iran had supplied Russia with several hundred drones including Shahed-136s, although Iran has repeatedly denied this.[21] Iran has yet to officially announce the delivery of any form of military aid to Russia, although Major General Salami has alluded that "major world powers are using Iranian-made arms".[22]
On 13 September 2022, initial use of the drone was indicated by photos of the remains of a Shahed-136 inscribed with Russian: Герань-2, lit. 'Geranium'-2,[12] operated by Russian forces during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine.[11][23] According to Rodion Kulahin, the Ukrainian artillery commander of the 92nd Brigade, Shahed 136 drones destroyed four howitzers and two BTRs during the Kharkiv counter-offensive.[24] On 23 September, further use of the drones was recorded in Odesa, where videos of their flyover and subsequent impact were uploaded on various Telegram channels. Notably, the drones were audibly engaged with small arms fire, which did not seem to have shot down any of the aircraft. On 25 September, videos posted on social media shows intensified use of the drone by the Russian forces around Odesa and Dnipro cities. This time, along with small arms, some form of anti-aircraft rotary cannon was employed, along with surface-to-air missiles, downing at least one Geran. A number of the drones were able to hit unknown targets, although there are claims the Ukrainian Navy Headquarters in Odessa was hit.[25][26]
In response to these initial attacks, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has denounced it as "a collaboration with evil". Diplomatic ties between Iran and Ukraine were reduced in Ukraine as another consequence of the attacks.[27]
On October 5, 2022 a Geranium drone bombed barracks hosting soldiers from the 72nd Mechanized Brigade in Bila Tserkva.[28]
Ukrainian soldiers claim they can be heard from several kilometers away and are vulnerable to small arms fire.[29]
Ukrainian sources stated they deployed MiG-29 fighter aircraft to shoot down these drones with success, claiming that they used a similar
strategy to shoot down cruise missiles such as the Kalibr.[30]
October waves[edit]
These aircraft participated in the October missile strikes that disabled large sections of the Ukrainian power grid.[31] On 13 October 2022, a Ukrainian MiG-29 crashed in Vinnytsia while attempting to shoot down a Geran-2. According to Ukrainian sources, the drone detonated near the jet and shrapnel struck the cockpit which forced the pilot to eject.[32][33]In the morning of October 17th Kyiv was once again attacked by several of these drones, and once again they were engaged by massed ground fire from small-caliber automatic weapons, as captured on video in a number of instances. Despite the presence of these and more adequate air-defense systems, the drones reportedly managed to hit several locations, including the offices of Ukrenergo. Other energy infrastructure facilities were also reported to be attacked, leading to concerns of blackouts around the affected infrastructure. 4 civilians in Kyiv were killed in the strike.[34][35][36]
The Ukrainian Minister of Internal Affairs has told civilians to stop attempting to shoot down drones with their personal firearms, urging them to "leave the matter to law enforcement officers and the military".[37] The cost-benefit analysis of using these drones in strikes versus the defending air defense is in favor of the Shahed drones, being about half the cost of the defenses- such as emplaced surface-to-air missile systems- employed against them.[3] The shooting down of the drones after they have reached cities can lead to large-scale collateral damage.[3]
HESA Shahed 136 - Wikipedia
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Technical details aside, what is he wrong about?LOL, this guy is so wrong about a lot of things.
Saegheh-1[edit]
The Saegheh-1 was first presented at an Iranian arms expo in 2016.
Iranian state news claimed the Saegheh-1 could carry four Sadid-1 precision-guided anti-tank guided missile
The Shahed 129 (Persian: شاهد ۱۲۹, English: "witness", "martyr"; sometimes S129) is an Iranian single-engine medium-altitude long-endurance unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV) designed by Shahed Aviation Industries for the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). The Shahed 129 is capable of combat and reconnaissance missions and has an endurance of 24 hours; it is similar in size, shape and role to the American MQ-1 Predator[5] and is widely considered as one of the most capable drones in Iranian service.
The UAV has been used for airstrikes in the Syrian Civil War and for border patrol on Iran's eastern border.[3] Together with the Saegheh, the Shahed 129 is expected to form the backbone of Iran's high-end UAV fleet for at least the next decade.[3]
The Mohajer-6 (Persian: پهپاد مهاجر-6) is an ISTAR[1] UAV capable of carrying a multispectral surveillance payload and/or up to four precision-guided munitions.Ten have been manufactured as of February 2018 for the IRGC Ground Forces,[2] and 40 are planned for the IRGC Navy.[2] The Mohajer-6 complements the larger Shahed 129 operated by the third IRGC branch, the IRGC-ASF.[citation needed] Three have also been delivered to the Iranian Army.[3]
The Mohajer-6 entered serial production in February 2018.[4] As with other members of the Mohajer family, the Mohajer-6 is made of composite.[5]
It has a fixed, forward facing camera for navigation and a gimbal on the chin for a laser range finder and multispectral IR and visible light electro-optical imagery.[8] The Mohajer-6 has three antennas, two on its left wing and one on its right, and a pitot tube on its nose. The Mohajer-6 has two main variants. The A variant has two hardpoints, one under each wing, which can each carry one Qaem TV/IR-guided missile or one Almas missile.[2][a] Whilst the B variant has 4 hardpoints, with 2 under each wing carrying the same types of missiles. It has an autopilot system capable of automatic takeoff and landing. In addition, Iran describes it as capable of being fitted with electronic support measures, communications jamming, or electronic warfare payloads.[8]
Iran’s latest drone capabilities, documented in photos from a recent Iranian drone exercise, were captured by Iran’s Fars News and a Ukrainian website named Defense Express. The Ukrainian report alleges that Iran has copied Israel’s Spike anti-tank missile and installed it on a drone.
Did Iran copy Israeli missiles for its drone production? | The Jerusalem Post
A Ukrainian report claiming that Iran copied Israel's Spike anti-missile tank and put it on a drone has been circulating in Iran - exactly how Iran wants.
HESA Shahed 136 swarming drone
The relatively cheap drone is fired in multiples from a launch rack (in batches of five upwards) and is designed to evade air defenses and overwhelm ground targets, consuming air defense resources during the attack. The drone was revealed in December 2021 through published footage. The system is believed to first have been actively deployed to Houthi-controlled areas in Yemen.[5]
In the months prior to the confirmation of their use, US intelligence sources and Ukrainian officials have claimed that Iran had supplied Russia with several hundred drones including Shahed-136s, although Iran has repeatedly denied this.[21] Iran has yet to officially announce the delivery of any form of military aid to Russia, although Major General Salami has alluded that "major world powers are using Iranian-made arms".[22]
On 13 September 2022, initial use of the drone was indicated by photos of the remains of a Shahed-136 inscribed with Russian: Герань-2, lit. 'Geranium'-2,[12] operated by Russian forces during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine.[11][23] According to Rodion Kulahin, the Ukrainian artillery commander of the 92nd Brigade, Shahed 136 drones destroyed four howitzers and two BTRs during the Kharkiv counter-offensive.[24] On 23 September, further use of the drones was recorded in Odesa, where videos of their flyover and subsequent impact were uploaded on various Telegram channels. Notably, the drones were audibly engaged with small arms fire, which did not seem to have shot down any of the aircraft. On 25 September, videos posted on social media shows intensified use of the drone by the Russian forces around Odesa and Dnipro cities. This time, along with small arms, some form of anti-aircraft rotary cannon was employed, along with surface-to-air missiles, downing at least one Geran. A number of the drones were able to hit unknown targets, although there are claims the Ukrainian Navy Headquarters in Odessa was hit.[25][26]
In response to these initial attacks, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has denounced it as "a collaboration with evil". Diplomatic ties between Iran and Ukraine were reduced in Ukraine as another consequence of the attacks.[27]
On October 5, 2022 a Geranium drone bombed barracks hosting soldiers from the 72nd Mechanized Brigade in Bila Tserkva.[28]
Ukrainian soldiers claim they can be heard from several kilometers away and are vulnerable to small arms fire.[29]
Ukrainian sources stated they deployed MiG-29 fighter aircraft to shoot down these drones with success, claiming that they used a similar
strategy to shoot down cruise missiles such as the Kalibr.[30]
October waves[edit]
These aircraft participated in the October missile strikes that disabled large sections of the Ukrainian power grid.[31] On 13 October 2022, a Ukrainian MiG-29 crashed in Vinnytsia while attempting to shoot down a Geran-2. According to Ukrainian sources, the drone detonated near the jet and shrapnel struck the cockpit which forced the pilot to eject.[32][33]
In the morning of October 17th Kyiv was once again attacked by several of these drones, and once again they were engaged by massed ground fire from small-caliber automatic weapons, as captured on video in a number of instances. Despite the presence of these and more adequate air-defense systems, the drones reportedly managed to hit several locations, including the offices of Ukrenergo. Other energy infrastructure facilities were also reported to be attacked, leading to concerns of blackouts around the affected infrastructure. 4 civilians in Kyiv were killed in the strike.[34][35][36]
The Ukrainian Minister of Internal Affairs has told civilians to stop attempting to shoot down drones with their personal firearms, urging them to "leave the matter to law enforcement officers and the military".[37] The cost-benefit analysis of using these drones in strikes versus the defending air defense is in favor of the Shahed drones, being about half the cost of the defenses- such as emplaced surface-to-air missile systems- employed against them.[3] The shooting down of the drones after they have reached cities can lead to large-scale collateral damage.[3]
HESA Shahed 136 - Wikipedia
Are the russians not using iranian drones?
Does the use of drones reveal russian desperation?
I wish more people realize how incredibly close we are to ww3.
Read this story. You've got to be shitting me.
www.yahoo.com
(The irony is I'm pretty sure if my memory is correct Alas Babylons fictional ww3 started off by an aircraft accidentally launching a missile during heightened tensions)
Read this story. You've got to be shitting me.
A Russian fighter jet fired a missile while shadowing a Royal Air Force recon plane on patrol over the Black Sea, UK says
Moscow said it was a technical problem, but the Russian military has engaged in provocative actions around US and NATO forces in the Black Sea before.
(The irony is I'm pretty sure if my memory is correct Alas Babylons fictional ww3 started off by an aircraft accidentally launching a missile during heightened tensions)
I wish more people realize how incredibly close we are to ww3.
Read this story. You've got to be shitting me.
A Russian fighter jet fired a missile while shadowing a Royal Air Force recon plane on patrol over the Black Sea, UK says
Moscow said it was a technical problem, but the Russian military has engaged in provocative actions around US and NATO forces in the Black Sea before.
(The irony is I'm pretty sure if my memory is correct Alas Babylons fictional ww3 started off by an aircraft accidentally launching a missile during heightened tensions)
Where is Britain and where is Black Sea? What was he patrolling? Too bad he wasn't hit. FUCK HIM!!!
Russians should give a few drones to Irish Republican Army to return a favor for arming Ukraine.
You're disappointed that ww3 didn't start??
Huh?
Ok......
The black sea isn't Russias personal pond any more than the South China sea is to china or the gulf of Mexico is to Mexico.
All countries spy on each other all the time. Russia spies on the US and UK from international airspace all the time. Should we hope their planes are shot down too?
Russia just flew 2 nuclear bombers off the Alaska air identification zone like 2 days ago.
But, you do have a fair point about giving drones to the IRA. That is more comparable to what we are doing. Maybe the Russians should arm the Mexican cartels too.
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Heres a few,He states:
Russia cannot produce them (Mark 45)
Embarrassing for Russia to buy from Iran. (mark 117)
Russians always stuck thier nose between the Iranians and the Americans
Iranians weapons are not very sophisticated (mark 232)
They fly in a straight line from launch to detonation (mark 251)
Russians launching 6-20 to ensure a hit. (Mark 310)
Targets by drones are not military targets bridges, power plants , apartment buildings things that are absolutely 100% not military targets (Mark 320) claims that is a war crime
No reports of russia targeting military targets ( with drones) (mark 351)
Because Russia doesnt target military , Russia has no Intelligence,"" They have none"" (mark 358)
Because they have no drones sat's or air intell ""all they have is civilian targeting"" (Mark 408)
Russia cannot produce them (Mark 45)
Russia can make everything else? Teir 1, 5th generation fighters but cant make drones? No. Drones are a fairly new weapon, Very experimental in warfare at this stage, and because of a smaller defense budget never invested heavily in them .
Russia was behind the power curve when it came to drones , so they did the next best thing , Purchased what they need from the Iranians.
Nothing wrong with that. They are at war. We buy weapons from the Germans , British Belgians, Italians all the time.
Embarrassing for Russia to buy from Iran. (mark 117)
Not in the least. covered above.
Russians always stuck thier nose between the Iranians and the Americans
Thats news to me, the Iranians have hated us for decades, matter of fact, it was the US that put pressure on Russia not to sell Iran advanced antiaircraft systems. Iran actively participated in the war in iraq, arming insurgents, and even fighting and killing US troops . Maybe on wrong on this one, But I dont recall russia sticking her nose in our business with Iran.
Iranians weapons are not very sophisticated (mark 232)
Many of thier drones are copys of US and Isreali drones ,
For both sides - Russia and Ukraine - drones have been effective for locating enemy targets and guiding artillery fire toward them.
"Russian forces can bring their guns to bear on the enemy within only three to five minutes of an Orlan-10 drone spotting a target," says Dr Watling. An attack could otherwise take 20-30 minutes to carry out.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-62225830
They fly in a straight line from launch to detonation (mark 251)
LOL, some of them use laser or TV targeting Some are specifically anti tank , some are loitering. this guy is lying or stupid.
No reports of russia targeting military targets ( with drones) (mark 351)
experts believe they may have been deployed in recent attacks on a Russian military base in western Crimea, on an airbase near Sevastopol, and on ships in Sevastopol harbour.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-62225830
Cheap drones have revolutionized recent warfare. The Israeli-made IAI Harop first made a splash during the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war, boasting the ability to be updated with a datalink during flight and loitering over the battlefield for hours before plunging onto unsuspecting targets with assistance against possible jammers. While the propeller-driven Shahed isn’t nearly as sophisticated, Russia has already found success in striking stationary Ukrainian military targets with the Iranian loitering munitions, some of which are carrying basic smartphone components and other U.S. and European computer chips on board.
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Russia’s Iranian Drones Pose Growing Threat to Ukraine
Ukrainian armed forces have used anti-air missiles and electronic jamming devices to try and down these drones. At the start of October, Ukraine's armed forces said they had been intercepting 60% of all incoming Shahed-136 drones.
However, it is hard to shoot them all down.
"They fly low and you can send them in waves. These swarms of drones are much harder to counter by air defences," military expert Justin Crump told the BBC.
(THATS THE WHOLE POINT OF SWARMING)
Russians launching 6-20 to ensure a hit. (Mark 310)
the tactic is called swarming. the intent is to overwhelm any air defense by numbers , not because they hope one will hit . This is spin.
the implications this guy infers is that since the drones are so inaccurate the Russians hit civlian targets. This is complete bullshit , for one, no military commander is going to waste his time with a weapon system that doesn't work . theres to much shit going on and to much shit to do . It does absoutely nothing and costs a lot of time and money to waste on killing civilians for no reason. Those soldiers are more needed on the front line.
Some times a drone is hit and goes off target, shit happens, its a war people are shooting at it , some miss, But the intentional targeting of civilians no no purpose? its a waste of time and money. and they dont hate each other they are basicly the same people , they are related, they both have family on the other side . This is just spin .