Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)
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Acer-m14
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what are they fighting for ..
more money laundering
more money laundering
Acer-m14
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how long has this been going on ..
and no CNN reporters on the scene with live feeds ..
where is hanoi jane
let get a former spy with tits take on this ..
Former Senior advisor ..
and no CNN reporters on the scene with live feeds ..
where is hanoi jane
let get a former spy with tits take on this ..
Former Senior advisor ..
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Looks like I was right. That didn't take long....
Britain to give Ukraine heavy tanks, as German ‘Leos’ are on hold
London's pledge comes ahead of a Jan. 20 meeting of Ukraine donor countries in Germany, where more promises of heavy weapons for Kyiv are expectedwww.yahoo.com
Britain now going to donate main battle tanks.
Sigh....
I wish my prediction wasn't right.
More main battle tanks and now Apaches.
UK to send Apache helicopters and modern tanks to Ukraine
The UK will supply Ukraine with Apache attack helicopters armed with Hellfire missiles, UK tabloid Mirror reported on Jan. 14.
The tanks will arrive first and it will take a while before helicopters can be deployed. Other NATO members will now follow suit.”
What CNN is not telling you!
Special military operation in Ukraine (14 January 2023)
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Special military operation in Ukraine (14 January 2023)
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Apaches ?? Does ukraine have any pilots ? from what ive read it takes two yrs to train an apache pilot. gonna just drop them offI wish my prediction wasn't right.
More main battle tanks and now Apaches.
UK to send Apache helicopters and modern tanks to Ukraine
The UK will supply Ukraine with Apache attack helicopters armed with Hellfire missiles, UK tabloid Mirror reported on Jan. 14.
The tanks will arrive first and it will take a while before helicopters can be deployed. Other NATO members will now follow suit.”
throw them the keys, good luck guys !
Probably from the street to an Apache pilot 2 years.
Take a Ukrainian mi24 pilot and convert them to an Apache airframe and maybe they can crash course "good enough" the process in 4 months. Same goes the maintenance troops.
Let's be real they probably won't survive very long regardless.
Maybe the training time is less when they don't have to bother teaching them to land?
Where have we seen that before?
A bit of good looking Ukraine Soldiers....
As for the US sending in Bradley's...
Regardless of what some may say, the Bradley fighting vehicle is still a good piece of equipment to have in war. Not the best of the best, but, I would not turn them down if they were free or cheap. If they were so bad, the US military would not still be using them.
Back in 1993-94, I trained on the Bradley. After ten weeks of training, training each and everyday for 8-10 hours nearly every day, I was awarded the 14S MOS. I was not trained on all of the systems of the vehicle, many, but not all.
So, the US is going to send over surplus Bradley's do a quick train up and expect this losing Army to fully understand all that is needed to be a success in this type of fighting vehicle? Same with the tanks that are being shipped by the rest of Europe.
Sending these vehicles will probably do more harm to the Ukraine Army than any good.
The Ukraine is basically defeated, they are not smart enough or wise enough to understand this fact as of yet.
Regardless of what some may say, the Bradley fighting vehicle is still a good piece of equipment to have in war. Not the best of the best, but, I would not turn them down if they were free or cheap. If they were so bad, the US military would not still be using them.
Back in 1993-94, I trained on the Bradley. After ten weeks of training, training each and everyday for 8-10 hours nearly every day, I was awarded the 14S MOS. I was not trained on all of the systems of the vehicle, many, but not all.
So, the US is going to send over surplus Bradley's do a quick train up and expect this losing Army to fully understand all that is needed to be a success in this type of fighting vehicle? Same with the tanks that are being shipped by the rest of Europe.
Sending these vehicles will probably do more harm to the Ukraine Army than any good.
The Ukraine is basically defeated, they are not smart enough or wise enough to understand this fact as of yet.
ArmedCorgi
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It's all just to throw as much fodder infront of the Russians as possible.
Based on the current track record of arms being shipped to the Ukraine, I doubt it would make a single bit of difference to the Ukraine Army, however Russia, Iran, and North Korea, not to mention numerous hole-in-the-wall militia in South Africa, would be very grateful to be able to acquire U.S. made Bradleys at rock bottom prices.
These older Bradley's would not be all that much use to most of these countries though. They are sending the ones that are more than 20 years old. Sending these old pieces of equipment is all Bread and Circus.
The Militia type organizations, yeah, they could find some good use out of them.
holdover
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US 0 tanks 50 bradleys, Britain ,15 Challenger tanks ,15 leopard tanks from Poland. 0 tanks from Germany, 40 marder APCs
40 French APEX 10 IFV,
Its not even a Battalion. Its just delaying the inevitable. I give them 3 weeks in theater before we start seeing burnt out wrecks
40 French APEX 10 IFV,
Its not even a Battalion. Its just delaying the inevitable. I give them 3 weeks in theater before we start seeing burnt out wrecks
Rumors coming in Russia mobilizing 1.5 million
holdover
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Oh I dont think its just rumor. they want to finish this thing .They miscalculated big time. They wont do it again. They have to figure that Poland or NATO may jump in if they start winning , so they have to be ready for a fight.
I heard a rumor that they were able to jam the air defenses in the last missile attack . But you know, the information is spotty coming out of the war zone
I heard a rumor that they were able to jam the air defenses in the last missile attack . But you know, the information is spotty coming out of the war zone
Poland can't legally transfer German made leopard tanks to Ukraine without German approval. So far Germany is not giving that approval. It's not a done deal. There is also a rift in relations between Poland and Germany. Poland demands compensation for WWII damage. Germany points to German territory in the East which was given to Poland by the Soviet Union after the war. They are both in NATO, but old animocties are still there.
Poland demands $1.3 trillion in World War II reparations from Germany
Poland's foreign minister has signed an official note to Germany requesting some $1.3 trillion in reparations for the damage incurred by occupying Nazi Germans during World War II.
www.pbs.org
Poland demands $1.3 trillion war reparations from Germany
Poland’s top politician says that the government will seek equivalent of $1.3 trillion in reparations from Germany for the Nazis’ World War II invasion and occupation of his country.
apnews.com
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holdover
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holdover
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They have to be thinking about Poland jumping in on its own in the spring. No NATO. Basically, grabbing up Parts of Ukraine before Russia gets there.
If the Russians make it to the Dnieper river by summer they would have destroyed roughly 75-80% of the Ukrainian military, the rest would be a cake walk at that point. whats to stop them? Enter Poland. They dont have to defeat the Russians just stop them from crossing and saving a crippled Ukraine. Some Western parts of Ukraine were Polish too.
If the Russians make it to the Dnieper river by summer they would have destroyed roughly 75-80% of the Ukrainian military, the rest would be a cake walk at that point. whats to stop them? Enter Poland. They dont have to defeat the Russians just stop them from crossing and saving a crippled Ukraine. Some Western parts of Ukraine were Polish too.
Acer-m14
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Lots of old scores are settled there.
Polish military is already fighting in Ukraine. Over 1200 killed by their count.
Wtf
Another update. Next wave of "aid".
59 MORE Bradleys,
90 strikers
50 mraps
Bunch of humvees
More himars longer range rockets
I genuinely feel for the Ukrainian people. I do, I'm Sympathetic for them. But we're so stupid we're going to get ourselves dragged into this war. We're essentially supplying and paying Ukraine to act as defacto mercenaries to fight and die against Russia so NATO doesn't have to spill their own blood.
There's so much wrong on all sides right now.
Another update. Next wave of "aid".
59 MORE Bradleys,
90 strikers
50 mraps
Bunch of humvees
More himars longer range rockets
I genuinely feel for the Ukrainian people. I do, I'm Sympathetic for them. But we're so stupid we're going to get ourselves dragged into this war. We're essentially supplying and paying Ukraine to act as defacto mercenaries to fight and die against Russia so NATO doesn't have to spill their own blood.
There's so much wrong on all sides right now.
holdover
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To be fair, they should only send electric APC's.