Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)

[holdover]

Russia delivers 200 T-90M tanks to Pro-Russian forces of Lugansk People's Republic​

POSTED ON WEDNESDAY, 07 DECEMBER 2022 18:54

Russia delivers 200 T-90M tanks to Pro-Russian forces of Lugansk Peopl

According to a video published by the Russian Television Channel NTV on December 7, 2022, Russia delivers a new batch of 200 T-90M Main Battle Tanks (MBTs)

www.armyrecognition.com

 

[Mosinitis]

Wtf

Another update. Next wave of "aid".

59 MORE Bradleys,
90 strikers
50 mraps
Bunch of humvees
More himars longer range rockets

I genuinely feel for the Ukrainian people. I do, I'm Sympathetic for them. But we're so stupid we're going to get ourselves dragged into this war. We're essentially supplying and paying Ukraine to act as defacto mercenaries to fight and die against Russia so NATO doesn't have to spill their own blood.

There's so much wrong on all sides right now.

They have to keep up resupplying what is being destroyed, resold on the black market or captured by the Russians.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Ukraine may also be getting f16s after all

Dutch foreign minister says Netherlands may transfer F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine

The Netherlands will consider transferring F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine if Kyiv requests it, Dutch television news service RTL Nieuws quoted the country’s Foreign Minister Wopke Hoekstra as saying on Jan. 19.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Defilade]

What do ya think guys? 20 year war again?

 

[Deplorable Me]

What do ya think guys? 20 year war again?

There goes the surplus ammo opportunities.

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

We need to sucker AOC and her squad into insisting that any hardware given to Ukraine cannot use fossil fuels, and must be 100% green sustainable tech.

Including tanks planes helicopters and missiles.

 

[Mosinitis]

What do ya think guys? 20 year war again?

As they say Russia is slow to saddle, but fast to ride. They are restructuring their military and increasing its size. Special commission was formed to study drone and anti-drone warfare. Scientists, military and manufacturing experts are on it. Armament factories are working three shifts. If German tanks will come to Ukraine, Russian tanks will go to Berlin. They done this before and the odds were against them much more than now.

 

[tirwin1]

Navy seal killed in Ukraine. Supposedly he was AWOL since 2019. Sure, I believe that. I wonder how many other navy seals are AWOL in Ukraine.

Exclusive: AWOL Navy SEAL Killed Fighting In Ukraine

The Sailor died this week after suffering injuries with a unit under attack by Russia

www.yahoo.com

 

[tirwin1]

As they say Russia is slow to saddle, but fast to ride. They are restructuring their military and increasing its size. Special commission was formed to study drone and anti-drone warfare. Scientists, military and manufacturing experts are on it. Armament factories are working three shifts. If German tanks will come to Ukraine, Russian tanks will go to Berlin. They done this before and the odds were against them much more than now.

Someone is drinking the Kool aid. Did that special commission on drones all come from iran? There is no way Russian tanks go to Berlin.

The race is on. Can Ukraine get enough weapons to offset the coming human wave offensive? Hard to know but the Russians will probably take large losses if they win.

 

[holdover]

What do ya think guys? 20 year war again?

No way. One side or the other is going to collapse . Ukraine now has a GDP of around $5 The US is picking up the tab for the entire Uki government. Russian arms manufactures are running 24-7 And expanding.

 

[spat]

As they say Russia is slow to saddle, but fast to ride. They are restructuring their military and increasing its size. Special commission was formed to study drone and anti-drone warfare. Scientists, military and manufacturing experts are on it. Armament factories are working three shifts. If German tanks will come to Ukraine, Russian tanks will go to Berlin. They done this before and the odds were against them much more than now.

Russian tanks in Berlin ?

Exactly how much crack did you smoke before posting that ?

The first hours after they crossed into NATO territory every Russian vehicle larger than a bicycle anywhere in the world would be reduced to scrap.

 

[holdover]

Ukrainian company's now identify as brigades .

 

[holdover]

Russian tanks in Berlin ?

Exactly how much crack did you smoke before posting that ?

The first hours after they crossed into NATO territory every Russian vehicle larger than a bicycle anywhere in the world would be reduced to scrap.

No your dead wrong, they would get the bikes too.

 

[Mosinitis]

Someone is drinking the Kool aid. Did that special commission on drones all come from iran? There is no way Russian tanks go to Berlin.

The race is on. Can Ukraine get enough weapons to offset the coming human wave offensive? Hard to know but the Russians will probably take large losses if they win.

No, they are sitting on their hands and accepted they can't do better than Iranians.

Russia's Top Long-Range Attack Drones: A Comprehensive Overview

Explore Russia's top long-range attack drones with Airforce Technology. Delve into insightful features highlighting the capabilities, specifications.

www.airforce-technology.com

 

[Mosinitis]

Russian tanks in Berlin ?

Exactly how much crack did you smoke before posting that ?

The first hours after they crossed into NATO territory every Russian vehicle larger than a bicycle anywhere in the world would be reduced to scrap.

Tell that to Scholz, he is not as confident as you.

 

[Acer-m14]

Ukraine may also be getting f16s after all

Dutch foreign minister says Netherlands may transfer F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine

The Netherlands will consider transferring F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine if Kyiv requests it, Dutch television news service RTL Nieuws quoted the country’s Foreign Minister Wopke Hoekstra as saying on Jan. 19.

www.yahoo.com

F15's now ... hell they just shot down a helo that was sent to them .. LOL

 

[Mosinitis]

Russia can kill satellites. It can disable all that sophisticated weaponry NATO is heavily dependent on.

Russia warns West: We can target your commercial satellites

A senior Russian foreign ministry official said that commercial satellites from the United States and its allies could become legitimate targets for Russia if they were involved in the war in Ukraine.

www.reuters.com

Russia’s Anti-Satellite Weapons: An Asymmetric Response to U.S. Aerospace Superiority | Arms Control Association

www.armscontrol.org

 

[Jmac00]

Russia can kill satellites. It will disable all that sophisticated weaponry NATO is heavily dependent on.

Russia warns West: We can target your commercial satellites

A senior Russian foreign ministry official said that commercial satellites from the United States and its allies could become legitimate targets for Russia if they were involved in the war in Ukraine.

www.reuters.com

Russia’s Anti-Satellite Weapons: An Asymmetric Response to U.S. Aerospace Superiority | Arms Control Association

www.armscontrol.org

really, Starlink has about 1800 satellites in orbit, and Im pretty sure Musk has a shit ton of satellites ready to go. Im saying Musk, can put more up, than Russia can shoot down.

 

[Mosinitis]

really, Starlink has about 1800 satellites in orbit, and Im pretty sure Musk has a shit ton of satellites ready to go. Im saying Musk, can put more up, than Russia can shoot down.

That's not how it works.

 

[spat]

really, Starlink has about 1800 satellites in orbit, and Im pretty sure Musk has a shit ton of satellites ready to go. Im saying Musk, can put more up, than Russia can shoot down.

Musk can put more up between now and the end of February than Russia can shoot down in total.

Starlink is making 45 satellites *per week* right now.

His plans are for 12,000 in the next 5 years.


To put that in perspective, that's 4x as many satellites as every other space program on the planet has launched since Sputnik put together.

Musk already has more in orbit than everyone else combined.

Given the state of Russia's super high tech weapons, they might not even have enough ASAT capability to takeout the in orbit spares Elon already has up there.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Kessler syndrome - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[spat]

Kessler syndrome - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The thing is, there is *a lot* of space up there.

More than there is down here.

It's not like an asteroid field in the movies. It's more like sailing in the middle of the pacific and worrying about hitting another ship.

 

[tirwin1]

Attrition: Expanding the Shrinking Russian Army

The Russian government increased the legal maximum number of its active-duty military personnel from 1,013,628 to 1,150,628 personnel It is unlikely that this number will ever be reached At the end of 2021 the Russian ground forces had about 400,000 me

strategypage.com

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

What's quite impressive is likely Russia and Ukraine each have surpassed the US casualty total in the entirety of the Vietnam war already.

Put that into perspective in less than a year.

 

[Mosinitis]

Attrition: Expanding the Shrinking Russian Army

The Russian government increased the legal maximum number of its active-duty military personnel from 1,013,628 to 1,150,628 personnel It is unlikely that this number will ever be reached At the end of 2021 the Russian ground forces had about 400,000 me

strategypage.com

They can increase the size of their military by simply returning to 2 year mandatory service instead of current 1 year. Used to be 4-5 years back in the 50's. Gee, what a dilemma. This inane drivel is getting annoying.

 

[Mosinitis]

Russian forces started to advance in Zaporozhia region. Ukrainian goose is cooked.

 

[tirwin1]

They can increase the size of their military by simply returning to 2 year mandatory service instead of current 1 year. Gee, what a dilemma. This inane drivel is getting annoying.

It's all so simple. Just a quick decree and voila! They increase the size of the military. They simply form commissions on drones and their problems go away.

One wonders if everything is so simple why haven't they won this war already?

 

[GOPerfect]

I would to know, of all the members responding to this thread, how many actually understand and know what is really happening in this war and if they do, how many think Russia is winning and how many think the Ukraine is winning....?

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

All I know is it's a shitshow all around.

Russia has no problem throwing hundreds of thousands of young men at a problem. There are many historical examples.

You can't hide or cover up more casualties suffered in less than a year than Americans suffered in all of Vietnam. No hiding that with propaganda or media spin those fathers mother's and wives know their loved one isn't returning.

Russia really cares about this fight. They don't want NATO on their direct border.

Russia is willing to throw countless men into the meat grinder to prevent it until it's politically untenable to do so.


Where does that lead us? Whats the next logical course of action that will occurr......

3 possible outcomes.

1 Seek a peace agreement to establish a defacto cease fire and more or less territory you control now

2 go for broke and send in a fully mobilized million+ man army going scorched earth to destroy kyiv and break the Ukrainian will to fight and resist knowing it will cause significant Russian casualties which will be a political liability

3 escalate to deescalate with a nuclear strike

 

[ArmedCorgi]

I would to know, of all the members responding to this thread, how many actually understand and know what is really happening in this war and if they do, how many think Russia is winning and how many think the Ukraine is winning....?

I have no idea what is really going on. I will say though, that it is looking like another Afganistan for Russia.