Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)
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MothMan
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She is weakenning her case by condemning Putin's invasion. The war in Ukraine started long before February 24th of last year. Western propaganda blitzkrieg is so massive, condemnation of Putin is a must do, whether people mean it or not.
RedBreast21
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The march into WW3 continues. This is what you get with a U.S. shadow government run by academics and one controlled by the EU/Brussels.
Imagine arming Ukraine openly with weapons in order to kill Russians and then telling China not to arm the Russians as that will lead to war with the U.S. lol You can't make this shit up.
Yep, they're that hypocritical. Well, more like pissing their pants really, as their options are running out. Poorly played by the West.
Imagine arming Ukraine openly with weapons in order to kill Russians and then telling China not to arm the Russians as that will lead to war with the U.S. lol You can't make this shit up.
Yep, they're that hypocritical. Well, more like pissing their pants really, as their options are running out. Poorly played by the West.
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holdover
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WW3, the destruction of the US and Russia just might be what they want all along.Maybe we are looking at it through a false presumption.
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prambo
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fUSA.Gov just keeps throwing $$$$ and armaments at Ukraine. The fUSA wouldn't last a week if a traditional ground war broke out with Russia and/or China as combatants with the empty armaments lockers we now have.
Biden Sending Another $2.2 Billion in Weapons to Ukraine - The Last Refuge
This isn't just stupidity or massive purposeful incompetence - it's a sell out of the fUSA by the "elites".
The fUSA/NATO cabal wanted to play "sanction hardball" with Russia - they lost.
All they're doing is pushing certain nations into other relationships, and those are expanding.
Russia's "Sanction-Proof" Trade Corridor to India Frustrates the Neocons | naked capitalism
"Russia, Iran, and India are speeding up efforts to complete a new transport corridor that would largely cut Europe, its sanctions, and any other threats out of the picture. The International North-South Transport Corridor (NSTC) is a land-and sea-based 7,200-km long network comprising rail, road and water routes that are aimed at reducing costs and travel time for freight transport in a bid to boost trade between Russia, Iran, Central Asia, India."
And they keep right on beating the drum...
Former UK Defense Minister Says NATO May Need To Send Ground Forces To Ukraine | ZeroHedge
"Are western citizens willing to fight and die for Ukraine? It's highly unlikely."
You got that right...none of my grandsons are going to fight for this FUBAR country for some fabricated bullshit. I got sucked into that crap in Vietnam - it won't happen to my grandsons...fucking ever.
And we learned nothing from Vietnam (this site probably has a pro-Russia bent to it, or is outright propaganda - but they aren't wrong).
ACURA ViewPoint: James W. Carden: Ukraine and The Lost Lessons of Vietnam - American Committee for US-Russia Accord
"Yet the atmosphere that now prevails in Washington makes it exceedingly difficult to believe such a thing as a ‘Vietnam Syndrome’ ever existed. Indeed, President Joe Biden’s handling of the war in Ukraine has been met with rapturous approval from the Washington establishment, winning plaudits from all the usual suspects."
It's a proxy war - and Americans shouldn't die because of some corrupt, half-pint, cocaine-sniffing shitweasel like Zelenskyy - didn't the American people have enough of "short man's syndrome" from Anthony "The Science" FauXi?
Biden Sending Another $2.2 Billion in Weapons to Ukraine - The Last Refuge
This isn't just stupidity or massive purposeful incompetence - it's a sell out of the fUSA by the "elites".
The fUSA/NATO cabal wanted to play "sanction hardball" with Russia - they lost.
All they're doing is pushing certain nations into other relationships, and those are expanding.
Russia's "Sanction-Proof" Trade Corridor to India Frustrates the Neocons | naked capitalism
"Russia, Iran, and India are speeding up efforts to complete a new transport corridor that would largely cut Europe, its sanctions, and any other threats out of the picture. The International North-South Transport Corridor (NSTC) is a land-and sea-based 7,200-km long network comprising rail, road and water routes that are aimed at reducing costs and travel time for freight transport in a bid to boost trade between Russia, Iran, Central Asia, India."
And they keep right on beating the drum...
Former UK Defense Minister Says NATO May Need To Send Ground Forces To Ukraine | ZeroHedge
"Are western citizens willing to fight and die for Ukraine? It's highly unlikely."
You got that right...none of my grandsons are going to fight for this FUBAR country for some fabricated bullshit. I got sucked into that crap in Vietnam - it won't happen to my grandsons...fucking ever.
And we learned nothing from Vietnam (this site probably has a pro-Russia bent to it, or is outright propaganda - but they aren't wrong).
ACURA ViewPoint: James W. Carden: Ukraine and The Lost Lessons of Vietnam - American Committee for US-Russia Accord
"Yet the atmosphere that now prevails in Washington makes it exceedingly difficult to believe such a thing as a ‘Vietnam Syndrome’ ever existed. Indeed, President Joe Biden’s handling of the war in Ukraine has been met with rapturous approval from the Washington establishment, winning plaudits from all the usual suspects."
It's a proxy war - and Americans shouldn't die because of some corrupt, half-pint, cocaine-sniffing shitweasel like Zelenskyy - didn't the American people have enough of "short man's syndrome" from Anthony "The Science" FauXi?
MothMan
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Back in the day most boys had skin in the game. IMO, fUSA.gov war mongering won’t end until that returns.
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prambo
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Saw them live in Tampa when I was in USAF at MacDill AFB.
My friend Ron (fallen Mennonite) and me with our obvious .MIL haircuts and a shit load of hippies.
The other group on the card there was Quicksilver Messenger Service.
Lots of left-handed cigarettes around - even the Tampa PD were taking hits.
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holdover
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This guy is a sick fuck ,
Hmmmmmm, What would Hitler do?
His time in power is coming to an end , He can see the writing on the wall, If NATO doesnt jump in He's finished
I could expect a false flag attack by Ukraine on Poland or Finland to help get NATO into the war . He's getting desperate.
Hmmmmmm, What would Hitler do?
His time in power is coming to an end , He can see the writing on the wall, If NATO doesnt jump in He's finished
I could expect a false flag attack by Ukraine on Poland or Finland to help get NATO into the war . He's getting desperate.
GOYABEAN
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some people did something and elections bring consequences.He said the same thing before and after the uproar his spokespeople spun that he meant something else. Now it's hard to misconstrue what he is saying. He is losing it.
holdover
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He's facing, or will be facing almost 1 million fresh troops sitting on his border .He has no answer for it.
I think thats why NATO is reluctant to send armor , they know a handfull of tanks isnt going to stop the next Russian offensive.
The only thing that can slow them down is the poles entering the war independent of NATO. I dont know how the Poles will feel about that, but I dont see NATO jumping into WW3 head first . The Germans and British and french dont have large enough armys at the moment
Russia can neither negotiate or go home. Shes all in , win, lose, or draw. the next Russian offensive will crack the Ukrainian army
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I think thats why NATO is reluctant to send armor , they know a handfull of tanks isnt going to stop the next Russian offensive.
The only thing that can slow them down is the poles entering the war independent of NATO. I dont know how the Poles will feel about that, but I dont see NATO jumping into WW3 head first . The Germans and British and french dont have large enough armys at the moment
Russia can neither negotiate or go home. Shes all in , win, lose, or draw. the next Russian offensive will crack the Ukrainian army
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"The British government has not made a final decision on the impossibility of transferring the fighters to Kiev, but so far it considers it right to refrain from sending them to Ukraine. " - UK Defense Minister
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A panicked Empire tries to make Russia an ‘offer it can’t refuse’
"Those behind the Throne are never more dangerous than when they have their backs against the wall.
Their power is slipping away, fast: Militarily, via NATO’s progressive humiliation in Ukraine; Financially, sooner rather than later, most of the Global South will want nothing to do with the currency of a bankrupt rogue giant; Politically, the global majority is taking decisive steps to stop obeying a rapacious, discredited, de facto minority."
"The novelty here is that for the first time since the start of Russia’s February 2022 Special Military Operation (SMO) in Ukraine, the Americans are actually proposing a variation of the “offer you can’t refuse” classic, including some concessions which may satisfy Russia’s security imperatives.
Crucially, the US offer totally bypasses Kiev, once again certifying that this is a war against Russia conducted by Empire and its NATO minions – with the Ukrainians as mere expandable proxies."
"Those behind the Throne are never more dangerous than when they have their backs against the wall.
Their power is slipping away, fast: Militarily, via NATO’s progressive humiliation in Ukraine; Financially, sooner rather than later, most of the Global South will want nothing to do with the currency of a bankrupt rogue giant; Politically, the global majority is taking decisive steps to stop obeying a rapacious, discredited, de facto minority."
"The novelty here is that for the first time since the start of Russia’s February 2022 Special Military Operation (SMO) in Ukraine, the Americans are actually proposing a variation of the “offer you can’t refuse” classic, including some concessions which may satisfy Russia’s security imperatives.
Crucially, the US offer totally bypasses Kiev, once again certifying that this is a war against Russia conducted by Empire and its NATO minions – with the Ukrainians as mere expandable proxies."
Mozart Mercenary Group is disbanded. Disgraced Mozart leader Andrew Milburn tells his men they can take off their helmets and take a shit into them.
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Hard Drinking and Murky Finances: How an American Veterans Group Imploded in Ukraine (Published 2023)
The Mozart Group was training Ukrainian soldiers and evacuating frontline residents until the money ran out. Its collapse sheds light on the stresses faced by such groups.
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Russia Threatens To NUKE United Kingdom, Launch 'Unstoppable' Torpedo To Create 500-Meter Radioactive Tsunami
The threat came just days after a Russian warship was spotted off the coast of the United Kingdom, Norway and Belgium earlier this month.
spat
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So, you're saying nuclear war is inevitable at this point ?
Once you reach that conclusion, the only logical course of action is a massive first strike targeted at your enemies nuclear facilities.
Putin is playing a hell of a game of chicken, but he's driving a Yugo, and the rest of the world is a freight train.
That collision will be a bad day for the guy driving the train, but he's worried about the investigation, the guy in the Yugo won't have enough remains to bury.
Russia has bigger territory, more nukes and better missile technology. Russia's chances of winning nuclear war are better.
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Russia tests nuclear-capable missile that Putin calls world's best
In a show of strength two months into its assault on Ukraine, Russia test-launched a new nuclear-capable intercontinental ballistic missile which President Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday would make Moscow's enemies stop and think.
www.reuters.com
Why Russia's Hypersonic Missiles Can't Be Seen on Radar
The speed of hypersonic weapons are changing the way the world's military minds think about the future of great power conflicts in ways no one could have predicted.
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Russia leads the world in hypersonic missiles tech, Putin says
Russia is the global leader in hypersonic missiles and, by the time other countries catch up, is likely to have developed technology to counteract these new weapons, President Vladimir Putin said.
www.reuters.com
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MothMan
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Recently watched the miniseries Chernobyl. Well worth the time to watch, IMO. 650,000 people mobilized many knowingly irradiated themselves to fight the accident.
My take away is that Russia is best equipped to protect its population from the after effects of a nuclear exchange.
Nuclear war asshole! Many people die. Again my opinion is that in the long run fewer Russian will perish due to experience gained at Chernobyl.
The only other country best prepared would be Japan.
My take away is that Russia is best equipped to protect its population from the after effects of a nuclear exchange.
Nuclear war asshole! Many people die. Again my opinion is that in the long run fewer Russian will perish due to experience gained at Chernobyl.
The only other country best prepared would be Japan.
I also saw the miniseries and I agree it's well worth the time to watch. I disagree with your other takeaways. I thought it showed just how poorly they were equipped to deal with any type of emergency. Yes they threw thousands of bodies at the problem which makes their official death toll laughably low. The one thing that you can absolutely count on is the Russians will gladly sacrifice hundreds of thousands (millions) to achieve their political goals. Russian lives, Ukrainians, it doesn't matter.
I seriously doubt they are equipped to protect their population from the after effects of a nuclear exchange. I think they just don't care, particularly if they think they could win a nuclear exchange.