Pretty much...DMV doesn't demand your SSN#, IS on-line, and WILL give you an answer right then and there...yea, DMV is easier.
Ammo background checks to begin mid-September?
- Thread starter Beerman
- Start date
All the numbers are subjective, and oft speculative, however the reports of LEO's being severely delayed are prevalent, and those "delayed" far and away outnumber the "proceeds" given on the spot...Must be they're checking your Social Credit Score before giving the go ahead.
Personally, I absolutely REFUSE to undergo the Ammunition Check, although I did submit to one for a new Semi-automatic Rimfire Rifle...took over 24 hours for that one to come back even with Unique Personal Identification Number (UPIN)
byron
.308 Win
“It shall be unlawful for any Federal, State or local government agency to deny to any individual any right, benefit, or privilege provided by law because of such individual's refusal to disclose his social security account number.” Sec. 7(a)(1).
www.justice.gov
this is why most forms that ask for SSN say optional they cannot require it by federal law
Disclosure of Social Security Numbers
this is why most forms that ask for SSN say optional they cannot require it by federal law
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I know that this is exactly what the nys gastapo wants but … Fuck ny and it’s jack booted thug governor. I will NOT submit to a background check to purchase ammo. I have what I need and when that gets low I’ll just roll more of my own or go to a free state to buy what I currently don’t reload. I wholeheartedly sympathize with the shop owners that will be hurt by this edict but I will never willing comply with an unconstitutional law.
CaliberPlus
.45 acp
I have said so much I figured guys were getting tired of me.
It is beyond asinine. More ammo checks get delayed than pass. I think a good estimate of time to sell ammo is about ten minutes. I do not think the big box stores are going to keep selling. I get a knot in my stomach every time I do one, the amount of information being sent is disturbing. I am contributing to an illegal database. EVERY check is contributing. Not sure how long I can do that.
CaliberPlus
.45 acp
Yet I cannot submit a check, gun or ammo, without a Soc Sec number. I hate facilitating an illegal activity.“It shall be unlawful for any Federal, State or local government agency to deny to any individual any right, benefit, or privilege provided by law because of such individual's refusal to disclose his social security account number.” Sec. 7(a)(1).
Disclosure of Social Security Numbers
this is why most forms that ask for SSN say optional they cannot require it by federal law
This shit started decades ago. I remember when the Privacy Act passed around 1974, and we were told we did not have to divulge our SSN because of it. Of course, when I was in the Navy, come payday, they told us we WERE NOT REQUIRED to disclose our SSN, HOWEVER, they wouldn’t pay us IF we DID NOT disclose it..
Absolute government bullshit at its’ finest.
Absolute government bullshit at its’ finest.
byron
.308 Win
16. Social Security Number (optional, but will help prevent misidentification)
this is from the form Optional
Vinson57
.475 A&M Magnum
A giant registration list - your name and address - All the gun types you own because the caliber you chose to buy.
thisIslandEarth
.44 mag
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Can't count the number of gang related drive-bys with muzzle loaders. It's become an epidemic.
Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
Black Powder Matters.
Shadow rider
6.5 Creedmoor
Because of Unsafe Act and what I saw coming, I should be ok if y'all know what I mean! And besides, there are 49 (or is it 52) other states.
Never again to buy a round in NY! Sorry LGS's!
Never again to buy a round in NY! Sorry LGS's!
(per NY) "Who gives fucks about Federal Law, this is New York and we do what we want, how we want."“It shall be unlawful for any Federal, State or local government agency to deny to any individual any right, benefit, or privilege provided by law because of such individual's refusal to disclose his social security account number.” Sec. 7(a)(1).
Disclosure of Social Security Numbers
this is why most forms that ask for SSN say optional they cannot require it by federal law
The Form the Dealer has to fill out REQUIRES (unless something changed since I saw it) via a drop-down box and you cannot proceed without it.
Somebody please tell me I'm wrong.
ManualF150
.308 Win
CaliberPlus
.45 acp
Sorry, WRONG!!! NYS requires it. I have done just a few of these. Need for ammo too, as I stated.
We never tire as what you Post is FACTUAL and from the position of someone actually facilitating both Ammunition sales and Gun Transfers.
I get it...when I worked for Uncle Sam, there was a LOT that I detested and couldn't understand the rational.
CaliberPlus
.45 acp
Somebody can tell you that you are wrong but it doesn't mean they are right
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Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
so when is the Sheriff filing a law suit for the witches unconstitutional LAW and Civil Rights Violation
hay Sheriff go here and scroll down to number 4 in the list ..
NYS Open Legislation | NYSenate.gov
Uninformed and Compliant
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Lawsuits are worthless.so when is the Sheriff filing a law suit for the witches unconstitutional LAW and Civil Rights Violation
hay Sheriff go here and scroll down to number 4 in the list ..
NYS Open Legislation | NYSenate.gov
www.nysenate.gov
ARREST THEM FOR COERCION 3rd.
135.60
A person is guilty of coercion in the third degree when he or she compels or induces a person to engage in conduct which the latter has a legal right to abstain from engaging in, or to abstain from engaging in conduct in which he or she has a legal right to engage, or compels or induces a person to join a group, organization or criminal enterprise which such latter person has a right to abstain from joining, by means of instilling in him or her a fear that, if the demand is not complied with, the actor or another will:
1. Cause physical injury to a person; or
2. Cause damage to property; or
3. Engage in other conduct constituting a crime; or
4. Accuse some person of a crime or cause criminal charges to be instituted against him or her; or
5. Expose a secret or publicize an asserted fact, whether true or false, tending to subject some person to hatred, contempt or ridicule; or
6. Cause a strike, boycott or other collective labor group action injurious to some person's business; except that such a threat shall not be deemed coercive when the act or omission compelled is for the benefit of the group in whose interest the actor purports to act; or
7. Testify or provide information or withhold testimony or information with respect to another's legal claim or defense; or
8. Use or abuse his or her position as a public servant by performing some act within or related to his or her official duties, or by failing or refusing to perform an official duty, in such manner as to affect some person adversely; or
9. Perform any other act which would not in itself materially benefit the actor but which is calculated to harm another person materially with respect to his or her health, safety, business, calling, career, financial condition, reputation or personal relationships.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
if only they read the law books and held there oath
Proof the system is broken when there is a certain class of people laws don't apply to. There are other comments I would like to share but not on a monitored forum.
Bigfoot
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Bigfoot
.577 Tyrannosaur.
It's all so tiresome... What's their end game with all this unconstitutional bullshit?
Who's side are they on? Those fucking traitors, those fucking fucks.
Well, fuck them!
My name is Bigfoot and Kathy Hochul has weird eyebrows.
I think they're most likely high on drugs.
Anyways,
"If you're an American, act like an American."
- George Washington - (probably)
TRUMP 2024 MAGA
Who's side are they on? Those fucking traitors, those fucking fucks.
Well, fuck them!
My name is Bigfoot and Kathy Hochul has weird eyebrows.
I think they're most likely high on drugs.
Anyways,
"If you're an American, act like an American."
- George Washington - (probably)
TRUMP 2024 MAGA
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Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
NY has created conditions that encourage people to hoard and store ammo. They finally did something right.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
NY has made un-indicted felons of thousands, probably hundred's of thousands of hard working, honest tax paying citizens that did nothing wrong. Fuck New York.
Robin
Robin
Bigfoot
.577 Tyrannosaur.
#dontplayalong.
#dontplaytheirgame.
#duh!-
#thereareotheroptions.
#dontputastupidmaskoneither.
#dang...
#quitbeingsofuckinggullible.
#duh.
#Ho Lee Fuk!
#besmarterthanthem.
#questioneverythingtrustnobody.
#dontplaytheirgame.
#duh!-
#thereareotheroptions.
#dontputastupidmaskoneither.
#dang...
#quitbeingsofuckinggullible.
#duh.
#Ho Lee Fuk!
#besmarterthanthem.
#questioneverythingtrustnobody.
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It is my sad duty to report that today is a beautiful sunny day here in SC, and that the store shelves are well stocked with ammo for sale to anonymous buyers at fair prices.
Fuck New Yorkistan and the despicable tyrants driving my beloved (and sadly former) home deeper and deeper into a state of economic and social destruction every single day.
Come on down.
Fuck New Yorkistan and the despicable tyrants driving my beloved (and sadly former) home deeper and deeper into a state of economic and social destruction every single day.
Come on down.
Bigfoot
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I was born and raised in rural South Carolina. My entire family is still in South Carolina and I communicate with them often. Therefore, I know exactly what I'm missing out on...
I mean I had a good reason to move from South Carolina to New Yo, ah fuck it...
I fucking fucked up and I fucked up big time.
I plan on going back home to South Carolina in a couple of years from now. Pennsylvania is something that I could do right now because it keeps my wife somewhat close to her family. But I want to get completely away from the liberal North East. So that's what I'm aiming toward.
Just sayin'
Email the sheriff and tell him to do his fucking job!so when is the Sheriff filing a law suit for the witches unconstitutional LAW and Civil Rights Violation
hay Sheriff go here and scroll down to number 4 in the list ..
NYS Open Legislation | NYSenate.gov