Government Shutdown

[Brawny71]

Dry goods , pasta, and canned items are another forgotten “just in case” item.

 

[Brawny71]

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[FRANKIE]

The shutdown i want, is the one where i`m not paying for some other lazy motherfuggers free food, free housing, free healthcare, free car, free cell phone, repeat generations of lazy cultured kocksuckers who refuse to work.

Well said

 

[MothMan]

 

[livingston]

 

[fresch]

Where oh where in the constitution is the gov supposed to feed, house, doctor, free, free, free?
It isn't, they want we the people to live on the plantation, all of us. The plantation is a mind set, the reality is they become kings, queens (not the homosexual gueens, yet there will be some), dukes, counts, we will be serfs.

 

[Bigfoot]

I just watched a clip on the Ruthless podcast of Schumer speaking.

He appeared to be extremely rattled... I've never seen that with Schumer before.
He also appeared to be extremely frustrated... I've never seen that with Schumer before.
He also appeared to be extremely angry... I've never seen that with Schumer before.
He was extremely short-tempered with the press... I've never seen that with Schumer before.

Schumer wasn't being his usual calculating self that I'm accustomed to seeing from him, maybe because he's in a bad spot and being backed into a corner. Or maybe because, for once, the Republicans aren't caving as usual. IDK, but Schumer is definitely off his game from what I just watched.

 

[thughes]

I just watched a clip on the Ruthless podcast of Schumer speaking.

He appeared to be extremely rattled... I've never seen that with Schumer before.
He also appeared to be extremely frustrated... I've never seen that with Schumer before.
He also appeared to be extremely angry... I've never seen that with Schumer before.
He was extremely short-tempered with the press... I've never seen that with Schumer before.

Schumer wasn't being his usual calculating self that I'm accustomed to seeing from him, maybe because he's in a bad spot and being backed into a corner. Or maybe because, for once, the Republicans aren't caving as usual. IDK, but Schumer is definitely off his game from what I just watched.

Well, his base (the free-shit army) is going to lose their free shit as of tomorrow. Members of that base that are looking into the cause are finding out that the GOP has been voting repeatedly (14 times now) to get that stuff moving again but Schumer's party has voted 14 times now to keep that from happening. Not a good look for Chucky and co.

 

[fresch]

All part of the plan.
Daddy is old, the kids are taking over, that's how the dimocrats work, eating each other.

 

[Bigfoot]

It would be great if Schumer's Shutdown damages the Democrat Party.

But with the Fake News Media doing their thing, and the dumb and gullible segment of our population doing their thing. I'm not hopeful that's going to happen.

On a side note, the Democrat Party should change its name. They no longer resemble the Democrats of years past. Not since Barack Hussein Obama hijacked the Democrat Party back in 2008-09. They should change their Party name to the Socialist Commie Hate Everything America Party. The Enemy Within Party, for short.

And they should change their symbol from the Jack Ass to a Venomous Snake.

 

[thughes]

.......And they should change their symbol from the Jack Ass to a Venomous Snake.

Sorry, already taken.

 

[FP1201]

Read an article about why there's a shortage of labor for some positions like that during a shutdown, even when most are working.

If they take vacation time during a shutdown, when the shutdown is over it's counted as "furlough" not against their vacation time. But they get the back pay all the same.

So, there's a very strong incentive for all of them to take as much of their saved vacation time as they can, because when it's all done they get it all back.

there isn't any pay for Annual leave, Sick leave, or time off awards: NO Pay, means no monies for anything will be deposited...best you can do is go, but be ready to come back as soon as called.

 

[FP1201]

When they cave (and they will), Chuck U Shumer will save face by throwing under the bus those that he "allowed" to cross the proverbial line in the sand. That way he will have a fighting chance at keeping his "job".

BTW... It has been bugging the shit out of me (or was that just the cleanse before my recent colonoscopy?)…Why the fug is congress still collecting a paycheck? I had to look it up! Turns out it's in the Constitution (kind of)…

Article I, Section 6 of the Constitution states: "The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States." This one says nothing about frequency or timing of compensation, only that they will be comped.

And then there is the 27th Amendment (ratified 1992)… "No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened." This one was supposed to prevent congress from giving themselves a raise, and also interpreted to mean no cut in pay either.

I call BS on both interpretations! Dock their pay and fine them as if they were gov't contractors late on a contract, maybe $1000/day for each member!

Truth is THEY'RE "The Kings" as they have excluded themselves from the Laws, Standards, Regulations, and Restraints they have foisted upon us their supposed Bosses

 

[FP1201]

Sorry, already taken.

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Make it a "Cottonmouth" everybody hates those swamp dwelling fuckers.

 

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[spat]

there isn't any pay for Annual leave, Sick leave, or time off awards: NO Pay, means no monies for anything will be deposited...best you can do is go, but be ready to come back as soon as called.

There is no extra pay for it, but if you take that time off during the shutdown it doesn't get debited against your time off.

So, if you took a week off in September, it cost you a week of time off. If you take it in October it doesn't.

 

[spat]

Well, his base (the free-shit army) is going to lose their free shit as of tomorrow. Members of that base that are looking into the cause are finding out that the GOP has been voting repeatedly (14 times now) to get that stuff moving again but Schumer's party has voted 14 times now to keep that from happening. Not a good look for Chucky and co.

He's also used to the media covering his ass, and while they aren't exactly holding his feet to the fire, they aren't quite lying with their usual level of enthusiasm.

I've seen occasional snippets of actual journalism sneak through on CNN lately.

Without the 24/7 propaganda spigot running full blast covering for them, the insanity of the democrat policies is becoming more and more apparent to more and more people.

 

[Bigfoot]

Make it a "Cottonmouth" everybody hates those swamp dwelling fuckers.

Good choice.

I was born and raised in and around the rural swamps of South Carolina, and you're not wrong.

Ask me how I know.

 

[FP1201]

There is no extra pay for it, but if you take that time off during the shutdown it doesn't get debited against your time off.

So, if you took a week off in September, it cost you a week of time off. If you take it in October it doesn't.

Right, if you're laid off they can't charge Leave against you, so you might as well use the time to your advantage, and when things reopen you'll get paid as though you were still working...the "essential personnel" that have to come in anyways are the ones that get shafted, at least when they'd tag one of us we did.

 

[FP1201]

I was born and raised in and around the rural swamps of South Carolina, and you're not wrong.

Ask me how I know.

same way I do coming from the "Green Swamp" of Central Florida.

 

[Bigfoot]

He's also used to the media covering his ass, and while they aren't exactly holding his feet to the fire, they aren't quite lying with their usual level of enthusiasm.

I've seen occasional snippets of actual journalism sneak through on CNN lately.

Without the 24/7 propaganda spigot running full blast covering for them, the insanity of the democrat policies is becoming more and more apparent to more and more people.

I've noticed that too, more than on one occasion.

I wonder what's up with that?

 

[Bigfoot]

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I nominate this meme for the Meme Hall of Fame!

 

[FP1201]

Dry goods , pasta, and canned items are another forgotten “just in case” item.

I still have quite a few MRE's "just in case" but life has taught me to always buy a least a little extra: "Two is one, and one is none."

 

[spat]

I still have quite a few MRE's "just in case" but life has taught me to always buy a least a little extra: "Two is one, and one is none."

Stuff like that is good to keep a couple in the truck.

Not so much "emergency" stuff, more like when you're stuck out in the boondocks a lot longer than you expected on some job and you're *really* missing dinner.

I.e. not survival rations, more like "keep the grumbling belly at bay so you can concentrate" rations

 

[spat]

I've noticed that too, more than on one occasion.

I wonder what's up with that?

I think they see what way the wind is blowing and they have no real convictions.

 

[RedBreast21]

The SNAP shut down will affect corporations as well. Maybe more than those that receive the EBT card money. 8 billion a month is what it costs. If the SNAP is completely above board and that a big if, it should collapse the supply chain. Less deliveries, less food needed on the shelves, less trucks needed, less drivers, less gas used, less Uber eats, less less of everything from farm to table for 45 million people. Ripple effect. So is SNAP a benefit for the people or corporate welfare? Probably a bit of both. A deal negotiated without us the tax payer in the room.

The continuing CR is a fight over Covid and Inflation Reduction Act spending that is due to all expire in Dec. 1.4 trillion is additional subsidies for the ACA that was to be temporary. Same for the Inflation Reduction Act. Temporary. The Democrats want it all extended because both were their babies that funneled money to migrants and useless generational welfare voters.

Our 2024 budget by Biden is 7 trillion. Up from 4.1 in 2020. Add in the Covid and IRA and its 8.4 trillion. Of course they will blame Trump for the exploding budget for the midterms if they cave.

I say let it all collapse. Lets really see what is what. If Chuck wants a vote only on SNAP then vote every item as a stand alone vote.

If SNAP ends, I would have everyone re-apply and be thoroughly vetted for it.

 

[spat]

The SNAP shut down will affect corporations as well. Maybe more than those that receive the EBT card money. 8 billion a month is what it costs. If the SNAP is completely above board and that a big if, it should collapse the supply chain. Less deliveries, less food needed on the shelves, less trucks needed, less drivers, less gas used, less Uber eats, less less of everything from farm to table for 45 million people. Ripple effect. So is SNAP a benefit for the people or corporate welfare? Probably a bit of both. A deal negotiated without us the tax payer in the room.

The continuing CR is a fight over Covid and Inflation Reduction Act spending that is due to all expire in Dec. 1.4 trillion is additional subsidies for the ACA that was to be temporary. Same for the Inflation Reduction Act. Temporary. The Democrats want it all extended because both were their babies that funneled money to migrants and useless generational welfare voters.

Our 2024 budget by Biden is 7 trillion. Up from 4.1 in 2020. Add in the Covid and IRA and its 8.4 trillion. Of course they will blame Trump for the exploding budget for the midterms if they cave.

I say let it all collapse. Lets really see what is what. If Chuck wants a vote only on SNAP then vote every item as a stand alone vote.

If SNAP ends, I would have everyone re-apply and be thoroughly vetted for it.

You're assuming that everyone that gets SNAP just stops eating.

My bet is the vast majority of them will suddenly find out they have the money for food after all.

Might be devastating for the nail salons and hair dressers though as people suddenly have to discover what priorities are.

 

[RedBreast21]

You're assuming that everyone that gets SNAP just stops eating.

My bet is the vast majority of them will suddenly find out they have the money for food after all.

Might be devastating for the nail salons and hair dressers though as people suddenly have to discover what priorities are.

I agree. It will take a more than a few weeks easy. There is always a lag on the affects when money enters or exits the economy.

 

[dsdmmat]

There is no extra pay for it, but if you take that time off during the shutdown it doesn't get debited against your time off.

So, if you took a week off in September, it cost you a week of time off. If you take it in October it doesn't.

If you are an excepted or exempt employee it does cost you leave. Excepted and exempt employees must report to work, if they don’t they must take sick leave/ regular leave or be counted AWOL. That is why you are hearing stories of people calling out sick. When this is over all that time will be recouped (By the government).