Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Wait...what? It's legal to own firearms in the forsaken territory of New York?
That's not what I read on the intranet-reddit-forums.
Constructing AR using fixed-mag lower= "take possession"?
- Thread starter BlakeLok
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Wait...what? It's legal to own firearms in the forsaken territory of New York?
That's not what I read on the intranet-reddit-forums.
I contend that no FFL in NYS is going to sell/transfer to you an AR lower....................a semi auto receiver with serial number and MFG data, fixed mag or not, without a semi endorsement............. the lower is the GUN, not the upper.
NO ONE.
Dream the fuck on..
NO ONE.
Dream the fuck on..
Maybe you live too close to Albany. Maybe you drink too much purple koolaid. I know of at least a few dealers locally that will LEGALLY transfer a stripped lower. The lower is classified as a Frame/Receiver Only for purposes of the bgc. It has the ability to be built into various configurations, but as it sits, it is NOT a semiauto and needs not a semiauto endorsement to take posession of.
Didn't we go through this on a different thread somewhere where you said that no dealers would sell an AR in NYS anymore and then a half dozen people sent links to dealers selling AR rifles ? It doesn't seem like it was all that long ago, either.
Didn't we go through this on a different thread somewhere where you said that no dealers would sell an AR in NYS anymore and then a half dozen people sent links to dealers selling AR rifles ? It doesn't seem like it was all that long ago, either.
Folks come to the places like this on the internet for advise, they get it and still cannot decide for themselves or insist on arguing as though you have no idea what you're talking about...after a while, I just tell them they can't have one and move on.
People go to gunsmiths knowing exactly what is wrong with their gun and tell the smith how to fix it all the time. My buddy calls them woodchucks. I really feel sorry for the staff at the counter sometimes.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
It’s been a bit but my guy did. It was easy. I think I even bought two of them. Many will still do it.
Not any more.......... bet on it.
2 Years ago it was possible........When the AG went after Primary Arms and Mean Arms, the FFL's have all tightened up as have parts suppliers.......... no semi endorsement no lower and Mean Arms/bullet buttons may be a no no.
The AR lower is the GUN.................serial number. Mfg data, and is a semi.
The OP also wants to buy a complete AR upper in another thread, possibly threaded.
Danger.
A Thordsen stock and threadless bbl is legal..works.
2 Years ago it was possible........When the AG went after Primary Arms and Mean Arms, the FFL's have all tightened up as have parts suppliers.......... no semi endorsement no lower and Mean Arms/bullet buttons may be a no no.
The AR lower is the GUN.................serial number. Mfg data, and is a semi.
The OP also wants to buy a complete AR upper in another thread, possibly threaded.
Danger.
A Thordsen stock and threadless bbl is legal..works.
A striped AR Lower is sold and listed as an Other on the 4473. A person has to be 21 years old to buy a striped lower as it can be turned into a pistol, Rifle, shotgun, SBR, SBS and so on.
A striped lower has no action with it it is not classified as a semi, bolt, single shot, pump, or break action. It has no caliber to list.
on the 4473 it will be listed as an other. The model, SN, Manufacturer, will be listed on the 4473. It will be listed as receiver or receiver only on the form.
A striped lower has no action with it it is not classified as a semi, bolt, single shot, pump, or break action. It has no caliber to list.
on the 4473 it will be listed as an other. The model, SN, Manufacturer, will be listed on the 4473. It will be listed as receiver or receiver only on the form.
BlakeLok
.38 Special
Possessing an AR lower and upper, unattached, with a fixed magazine, is still a class A Misdemeanor if no semi permit.
And even if I eventually end up winning a court fight, it would cost me much $$$. Not worth it.
And even if I eventually end up winning a court fight, it would cost me much $$$. Not worth it.
No, the semi endorsement is not a license to OWN, but rather a PERMIT TO PURCHASE.
BlakeLok
.38 Special
"Purchase or take possession"
you can't get there from here.
If you go with a mag lock, and end up needing to top load your mag, this will be very worthwhile.
ddsranch.com
Makes separating the upper and lower much easier. Just pull the very easy to grab rear takedown pin and the upper pivots open to allow access to the fixed mag to top load it.
AR-15 EXTENDED REAR TAKEDOWN PIN
AR-15 extended rear take down pin allows you to easily pull the rear take down pin, a must for fixed magazine/top loader models!!!
ddsranch.com
Makes separating the upper and lower much easier. Just pull the very easy to grab rear takedown pin and the upper pivots open to allow access to the fixed mag to top load it.
Brawny71
.44 mag
Possession is not. The new permit requirement does not affect current possession (grandfathered) only new legal purchases to include private ; must go through FFL.
A NYSP NICS check , was completed on that 4473 RECENTLY ???..............or was it two years ago, or was it in another state? Or do you really have the SEMI endorsement on your CCP? NYSP NICS require it.
Getting Ammo is bad enough today.
In NYS you may get a visit, soon.
Damn
I would estimate that there are probably over 1 million people++ in NYS who want to buy a full featured AW.............. and may have have now said "fuck it" to waiting, and to the law, and they will find out how well AI works.
This ain't 2014 anymore, Homer...........the all seeing eye, homes in on required FFL video surveillance, and some gun ranges, for Ins purposes.
Getting Ammo is bad enough today.
In NYS you may get a visit, soon.
Damn
I would estimate that there are probably over 1 million people++ in NYS who want to buy a full featured AW.............. and may have have now said "fuck it" to waiting, and to the law, and they will find out how well AI works.
This ain't 2014 anymore, Homer...........the all seeing eye, homes in on required FFL video surveillance, and some gun ranges, for Ins purposes.
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Do yourself a favor and go actually visit and ask a FFL Dealer in a full line Store, not the know-it-all at the end of the Bar that's giving you bad advise that you pass off as gospel... you do have an occasional good thought or point, bit for the most part you're perpetuating fear mongering with inaccurate assumptions.
I guess Syr Ra-Lins, Both CNY Franks, Syr Despirito, and many Herkimer County/Little Falls guns shops, and many others in between I have visited regularly, ignore the laws?
NOT
Do Big Box stores look the other way on the semi endorsement or transfer by 4473, a semi auto receiver, pistol or rifle??
NOT
This is the type of internet fabrications that give us all a black eye.
You cannot legally handle a pistol without a PP, as you know,.............the guns shop camera knows.
It ain't 1955 anymore and you live in a state dedicated to removing your guns and rights to own a gun, for the smallest infraction.
I had a visit at 11pm a month or so ago by a big black fellow who pressed the Blink doorbell and then walked far away.
I did not engage................too late, and he was not apparently injured.
He ended up calling for a two truck, as a neighbors story goes.
I could have called The cops, should have, but did not....... I treated him like Joseph Mary and baby Jesus, being turned away at the Inn.
He may just have wanted to buy some guns, at discount.
NOT
Do Big Box stores look the other way on the semi endorsement or transfer by 4473, a semi auto receiver, pistol or rifle??
NOT
This is the type of internet fabrications that give us all a black eye.
You cannot legally handle a pistol without a PP, as you know,.............the guns shop camera knows.
It ain't 1955 anymore and you live in a state dedicated to removing your guns and rights to own a gun, for the smallest infraction.
I had a visit at 11pm a month or so ago by a big black fellow who pressed the Blink doorbell and then walked far away.
I did not engage................too late, and he was not apparently injured.
He ended up calling for a two truck, as a neighbors story goes.
I could have called The cops, should have, but did not....... I treated him like Joseph Mary and baby Jesus, being turned away at the Inn.
He may just have wanted to buy some guns, at discount.
Let me guess….. you’re all for this gibberish you keep spouting off about??
I don't know about dementia, but there's definately a spot that's bruised.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Where did you pull this out of? Plenty of people had these well before the rule went into place and a permit was required. Even if bought after that your statement is a push. Even taking into account constructive possession is a stretch.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Correct but after 9/22. Everything before that is exempt. That’s why on paper electronics my son was gifted all my rifles to avoid this.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Some relationships are exempt from the background check requirement. Parent child and step parent child are the ones I believe are exempt.
What else are you giving away, Dad ?
Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
All of his secrets.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
No secret. He owns them and can loan them to me anytime he wants to. I have the semi auto permit. Most times when I shoot he’s there anyway. No problem and nothing illegal about it.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
As soon as he gets his permit he will get the sig 365 AXG legion I bought for him. He’s a wonderful kid and causes zero headaches ever. Never back talks, never swears, never speaks ill of anyone.