stokes
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From someone that thinks the earth is flat hmmm.............
US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)
- Thread starter TEOTWAWKI inc.
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Bigfoot
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It appears China was a driving force for the ceasefire:
Susan Kokinda from Promethean Action gives her perspective on the negotiated ceasefire with Iran. Kokinda notes the key players were Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey (she missed China).
In a lesser reported part of the background, Chairman Xi Jinping summoned the Pakistani negotiators to Beijing prior to the terms of agreement with Trump. The summoning happened right after Trump said he was going to target the full force of the U.S. military against Iranian infrastructure.
Why does that matter to China? Belt and Road. Beijing has built a railway from China into Iran for the transport of goods and raw materials (including energy products) out of Iran (sanctions avoidance) in exchange for shipments of weapons. If President Trump targeted the railway infrastructure, in combination with the oil shipments being hampered, ¹China would be in a very bad place. Hence the summoning to get a ceasefire.
theconservativetreehouse.com
Susan Kokinda from Promethean Action gives her perspective on the negotiated ceasefire with Iran. Kokinda notes the key players were Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey (she missed China).
In a lesser reported part of the background, Chairman Xi Jinping summoned the Pakistani negotiators to Beijing prior to the terms of agreement with Trump. The summoning happened right after Trump said he was going to target the full force of the U.S. military against Iranian infrastructure.
Why does that matter to China? Belt and Road. Beijing has built a railway from China into Iran for the transport of goods and raw materials (including energy products) out of Iran (sanctions avoidance) in exchange for shipments of weapons. If President Trump targeted the railway infrastructure, in combination with the oil shipments being hampered, ¹China would be in a very bad place. Hence the summoning to get a ceasefire.
Susan Kokinda on Trump's Gambit: Civilizational Expansion or Nihilistic Western Decline - The Last Refuge
Susan Kokinda from Promethean Action gives her perspective on the negotiated ceasefire with Iran. Kokinda notes the key players were Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey (she missed China). In a lesser reported part of the background, Chairman Xi Jinping summoned the Pakistani negotiators...
theconservativetreehouse.com
Ultimately this has given Iran more geopolitical global power. Tehran has seen how cutting off the Strait of Hormuz can help it counter asymmetry of military power. You don't need to kill your enemy, just choke off their resources and they'll cry uncle.
If you make everything, you control everything, and if someone threatens the supply chain right down to the kids digging in the mud, then everything above stops...China males everything and has plenty of slave/subservient people they press into Labor and when the supply of material and petroleum is threatened, their whole operation starts grinding to a halt...they DO want their Trains running on time.It appears China was a driving force for the ceasefire:
Susan Kokinda from Promethean Action gives her perspective on the negotiated ceasefire with Iran. Kokinda notes the key players were Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey (she missed China).
In a lesser reported part of the background, Chairman Xi Jinping summoned the Pakistani negotiators to Beijing prior to the terms of agreement with Trump. The summoning happened right after Trump said he was going to target the full force of the U.S. military against Iranian infrastructure.
Why does that matter to China? Belt and Road. Beijing has built a railway from China into Iran for the transport of goods and raw materials (including energy products) out of Iran (sanctions avoidance) in exchange for shipments of weapons. If President Trump targeted the railway infrastructure, in combination with the oil shipments being hampered, ¹China would be in a very bad place. Hence the summoning to get a ceasefire.
Susan Kokinda on Trump's Gambit: Civilizational Expansion or Nihilistic Western Decline - The Last Refuge
Susan Kokinda from Promethean Action gives her perspective on the negotiated ceasefire with Iran. Kokinda notes the key players were Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey (she missed China). In a lesser reported part of the background, Chairman Xi Jinping summoned the Pakistani negotiators...
How's that Artimus II doing? Glued to the TV lately? Lol
You scared bro? Pretty sure alot of people want us dead. US has had them contained for decades. But once again the scary boogeyman "They have weapons of mass destruction" bullshit comes out. What's next on the doomer list? Another virus from the wet market? Maybe a climate disaster and we need to reduce our usage or lock down? Must I list a bunch more false flags imposed on the people to steal our money or rights? Shoe bomber maybe? Are ya getting it yet?
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
I hope President Trump hits there infrastructure anyways. This will finish chynaw instantly (which should have been done a long time ago). Lets just end the shit an be done with it. We`re NEVER going to get ALL the terrorist`s in Iran without smokin most the country, return them to the stone age, might as well just flush the toilet and be done with it instead of just farting in the toilet bowel. Yup, innocent iranians would expire, but let it be a lesson to others not to let your country be run by rogue governments. We need to get AMERICA FIRST back on track. By eliminating terrorists, we win!It appears China was a driving force for the ceasefire:
Susan Kokinda from Promethean Action gives her perspective on the negotiated ceasefire with Iran. Kokinda notes the key players were Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey (she missed China).
In a lesser reported part of the background, Chairman Xi Jinping summoned the Pakistani negotiators to Beijing prior to the terms of agreement with Trump. The summoning happened right after Trump said he was going to target the full force of the U.S. military against Iranian infrastructure.
Why does that matter to China? Belt and Road. Beijing has built a railway from China into Iran for the transport of goods and raw materials (including energy products) out of Iran (sanctions avoidance) in exchange for shipments of weapons. If President Trump targeted the railway infrastructure, in combination with the oil shipments being hampered, ¹China would be in a very bad place. Hence the summoning to get a ceasefire.
Susan Kokinda on Trump's Gambit: Civilizational Expansion or Nihilistic Western Decline - The Last Refuge
Susan Kokinda from Promethean Action gives her perspective on the negotiated ceasefire with Iran. Kokinda notes the key players were Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey (she missed China). In a lesser reported part of the background, Chairman Xi Jinping summoned the Pakistani negotiators...
Not necessarily. China's economy essentially imports vast quantities of raw materials and exports vast amounts of finished products. This can only happen with free movement of ships/goods to and from China. If the imports get interrupted the exports do as well and their economy falters. Their problem is they don't have a military, specifically a navy, that can keep the sea lanes open and/or escort their ships.
I would not say they control everything. Because if they can't guarantee their inputs and outputs they are beholden to those that can like the US.
My guess is the rail network from iran to China was deliberately left alone from any targeting. But if things go south it will probably be deliberately targeted.
Israel causes just as many if not more problems.
Lets make a deal. We nuke Iran AND Israel off the map.
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
The bigger problem is, is that we`re in bed with chynaw way to deep now. Shoulda been handled at the end of WW2.
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
We can`t nuke Israel yet. They owe us bigtime. After they pay us back (for keeping their asses from getting nuked), then we can cut the cord.
spat
.950 JDJ
So we should just ignore regimes that chant "Death to America" and let them fester until they *can* do something about it ?
They're behind most of the terrorism in the whole world. We're better off with them gone. That's enough.
spat
.950 JDJ
China wasn't a problem until Nixon started getting friendly with them.
Before that they were just another shithole starving their own citizens.
But, you're not wrong about WWII. We should have backed the nationalists better.
Imagine if the whole mainland was like Taiwain.
Taiwain is the China we fought with in WWII.
Write them off, like a bad loan.
Bullshit. Isreal is.
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
YEP, agreed, spat
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Come onnnnn man let it go . Somebody on the other side of the earth said death to spat! So what .
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Or an Iranian.
spat
.950 JDJ
I'm not going to clutch my pearls because a guy who says "Death to America" finds out what species his 72 virgins are. IDGAF where he lives.
But, go ahead and pat yourself on the back for your virtue because you're "better than that".
I'm not interested in being better than anyone. I just want to be left alone.
spat
.950 JDJ
I'd worry more about Somalians.
The Iranians who I've met who escaped seem like decent people.
Iraqis too.
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
Seems we have found some iranium terrorist sympathizers.... YES - NO???
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Virtue? no man, not virtue, maturity. Some kid pushes you down in the play ground you come back with a fucking hammer and crush his skull .WTF?
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Yes!
JunkBoxFull
.308 Win
I don`t quite understand why you would want to even sympathize for terrorists that want to kill Americans.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
lol, Except the senators they own keep writing off the loans they got .
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Although eliminating them increases our debt. Costs lots of money to bomb like this. I’m not saying we shouldn’t and I agree both are threats. We do need to stop spending money at some point or big trouble is coming to us.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
China makes about everything. It cracks me up when I see people post about green energy is produced at home and will stop all wars. Well 80% of solar panels are made in China. It would simply shift what the wars are over is all it would do. We’re in trouble.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
I don`t quite understand why you would want to even sympathize for terrorists that want to kill Americans.
I dont remember any recent Iranian terrorists on US soil . Point is, they arnt really all that big of threat to us , that not why we are spending billions of dollars to destroy them. they are a threat to Isreal, because of Isreals expansionist policy's among other things
they should fight it out if they cant settle it . thing is I dont want my countrymen and my tax dollars getting involved.I dont want to see airliners hijacked and dive into the ocean because Aknod's family was wiped out during the US bombing of his home town.
You your kids, your grandma, are all legitimate targets, We are at war . We never suffer the consequences of going to war , yet.
We may wake up one day to see New york, (or hopefully Washington) evaporated into ashes. What can I say then? those fucking animals? when I would do the same to them if given a chance? I dont like it, but I get it.
Iran has always been a threat to Israel, not us . If the Us were to ever open trade with Iran, with 90 million people they would be come the dominant military and economic fore in the region. Israel would have to succumb to being a second rate country . the only way Israel rises is if Iran falls . then nobody is in the way .
Personally I can care two fucks about either of them except that were involved in a proxy war for Israel