Hochul SLAMMED after signing law banning ICE agents from wearing masks
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Bigfoot
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Hochuls an asshole.
Her head is to big for her body, her teeth are to big for her face.
Her proportions are way off and retarded. That woman is just a mess.
I think her eyebrows are high on drugs, just look at them if you don't believe me.
Hochul the Horrible is a horrible person in every way.
The accidental governor has managed to make things even worse for NYer's.
Her head is to big for her body, her teeth are to big for her face.
Her proportions are way off and retarded. That woman is just a mess.
I think her eyebrows are high on drugs, just look at them if you don't believe me.
Hochul the Horrible is a horrible person in every way.
The accidental governor has managed to make things even worse for NYer's.
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Bigfoot
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The turd world illegal invaders are Hochuls people...
Bigfoot
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I could be wrong IDK. But I don't think a state governor has any say in the operations or procedures of a federal law enforcement agency.
Meh, I didn't feel like it but I did a very quick search for some info.
FWIW - AI Overview.
State governors have no direct command or authority over federal law enforcement officers, as federal agencies (like the FBI or ICE) operate under the executive branch of the U.S. government. However, governors hold significant indirect influence through state legislation, the use of state police, and control over state resources.
A governor's influence over federal operations works in a few key ways:
1. No Command Over Federal Personnel
Federal officers do not report to state governors and are bound primarily by federal law and the U.S. Constitution, not state directives. A governor cannot fire, promote, or directly dictate the daily operations of federal agencies operating within their state.
2. Control Over State and Local Assistance
While governors cannot command federal agents, they largely control state and local police forces. Under the legal doctrine of "anti-commandeering," the federal government cannot force state or local agencies to enforce federal laws or assist in federal operations. Governors can issue executive orders or work with state legislatures to:
3. State Laws Still Apply
Federal agents are not entirely exempt from state law. While they have immunity when acting strictly within the scope of their lawful federal duties, they can be subject to state criminal laws if they act outside of their authority or commit state crimes. Furthermore, states can pass laws that impact federal operations indirectly, such as denying state-issued license plates or certain state credentials.
4. Direct Pushback and Legal Challenges
Governors frequently use their state's attorney general to challenge federal law enforcement activities in court. They can also advocate for state legislation to create civil liabilities for federal agents who violate state constitutional rights.
Meh, I didn't feel like it but I did a very quick search for some info.
FWIW - AI Overview.
State governors have no direct command or authority over federal law enforcement officers, as federal agencies (like the FBI or ICE) operate under the executive branch of the U.S. government. However, governors hold significant indirect influence through state legislation, the use of state police, and control over state resources.
A governor's influence over federal operations works in a few key ways:
1. No Command Over Federal Personnel
Federal officers do not report to state governors and are bound primarily by federal law and the U.S. Constitution, not state directives. A governor cannot fire, promote, or directly dictate the daily operations of federal agencies operating within their state.
2. Control Over State and Local Assistance
While governors cannot command federal agents, they largely control state and local police forces. Under the legal doctrine of "anti-commandeering," the federal government cannot force state or local agencies to enforce federal laws or assist in federal operations. Governors can issue executive orders or work with state legislatures to:
- Prohibit cooperation: Prevent state and local law enforcement from working with or deputizing for federal agencies (e.g., in immigration or federal drug enforcement).
- Limit resource sharing: Restrict federal agencies from accessing state databases, jails, or local equipment.
3. State Laws Still Apply
Federal agents are not entirely exempt from state law. While they have immunity when acting strictly within the scope of their lawful federal duties, they can be subject to state criminal laws if they act outside of their authority or commit state crimes. Furthermore, states can pass laws that impact federal operations indirectly, such as denying state-issued license plates or certain state credentials.
4. Direct Pushback and Legal Challenges
Governors frequently use their state's attorney general to challenge federal law enforcement activities in court. They can also advocate for state legislation to create civil liabilities for federal agents who violate state constitutional rights.
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Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
Hochul is the Venereal Disease this state is dealing with after FUAC Andrew Cuomo fucked NY on the way out by chosing her as the no way they'll impeach me with her as the Lt Governor choice.
Far king
.357 mag
Ok, let’s take it a step further.
Just ban all face covering in public which would include antifa, pro Palestinian protesters ( antisemite anti Israel) , anti ICE , and all other professional protesters, and last but definitely not least, ha jabs worn by Muslim women. Anyone who doesn’t like it , go back to your shithole country!
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
I cant wait to see federal agents being arrested by state troopers for wearing masks,LOL . WTF is she thinking?She has some kind of god complex
carpediem
.338 Win Mag
Hochul dreams about getting slammed.....
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Who cares. Let her try and arrest them, she won’t. They will still wear masks. ICE Will write it in that it’s a safety measure for their officers.
You support officers being masked?
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Once all unhinged leftist bystanders that dox, threaten, and terrorize law enforcement officers from the background are arrested and stopped, I'll support unmasking federal officers.
spat
.950 JDJ
Until they actually prosecute the people openly threatening them, yea.
Sounds like fantasy and a convenient excuse. Have I missed a bunch of officers and their families being butchered?
Law enforcement is dangerous, this is nothing new. Take it or leave it.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I dont think agents of the .gov should be masked, i think people that dox need to to be charged with crimes, and severe ones if crimes are committed against people who get doxxed.
I cant stand seeing people wearing face coverings in public, but i dont think there should be a law against it for private citizens. It should be a policy for .gov employees that they cannot wear masks unless medically necessary.
I cant stand seeing people wearing face coverings in public, but i dont think there should be a law against it for private citizens. It should be a policy for .gov employees that they cannot wear masks unless medically necessary.
A sober and reasonable post. Almost a rarity around these parts.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Check, please.
No. You uphold the law and prosecute people that break the law, which in this case is if they are threatening public service people and their families, you hold them accountable for that. You don't face mask your public service people. We all deserve accountability when we interact with public facing government employees. Suspending that isn't fair to you and me. Also, letting people threaten them isn't something we should tolerate either.
OwnTheRide
6.5 Creedmoor
I'm 50/50 with you on this. I'm with you that I don't think .gov employees (by which I mean, law enforcement) should be masked. But I don't think doxxing should be a crime. Connecting the dots on publicly available information (doxxing) is protected speech. Performing criminal acts based on that information, or encouraging others to do so, is not.
We need to be very, very cautious when considering support for the erosion of any of our rights.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
You know what, thats a good point. I should have thought about it better. All of our info is public and so should gov employees. People harrassing, threatening, or committing any crimes with that info is a different story. So, Im in agreement with you. We cannot allow the erosion of our rights even if it benefits us in the moment.