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MothMan said:
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Albany’s slavery-reparations farce takes another telling turn

Lawmakers clearly realize (but don’t dare admit) the idea is utterly nuts — and hope everyone just forgets about it.
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Above all: The state’s broke, facing a $32 billion cash shortfall through 2030; it has no cash to fork over for reparations payments of any kind, let alone the huge sums some surely imagine.

Consider: Preliminary estimates of California’s reparations plan topped $800 billion; that’s why uber-progressive Gov. Gavin Newsom dropped it like a hot potato, dashing hopes and fueling anger.

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Albany’s slavery-reparations farce takes another telling turn

Lawmakers clearly realize (but don’t dare admit) the idea is utterly nuts — and hope everyone just forgets about it.
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spat said:
So Democrats can siphon cash off them for personal interests while simultaneously duping an entire demographic into thinking they're on your side ?

Asking why welfare exists is like asking why a drug dealer will give you your first dose free.
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Wait, your first dose is free? Like a Walmart free sample?
 
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Why have those programs been established?
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For power and control.


It's diabolically evil genius to use tax payer resources to buy votes and create a class of people that will be perpetually dependent upon the government while doing it under the banner of equality and righteousness.


Look up some of what LBJ and other southern Democrats actions and words were.
 
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He tells about the slave traders and what they thought of people and he throws in his thoughts.
 
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Folks I worked my entire life and don.t think I made $800,000. total. . No idea how that figure was picked out of the air. There is not enough money for that kind of payout ... ever. This is a scheme by the Democrats to keep black folks on the plantation ... The Democrat plantation . To be rolled out every 4 years . One reason why it will never happen is the Hispanic population will surpass Blacks and even white folks in the coming decades.
There will be no such thing as white guilt with them . They are a paternalistic society and not afraid of hard work. When they become a large enough voting block they will instill these values in our society. Look to the Hispanics that have been here for several generations . ... They are not the gang bangers one sees on TV.
When this happens there will be a seismic shift in how this country is run . ... And they payouts made to society. Millions of Hispanics crossed into this country during the Biden years . They are not going home folks . You cannot deport them all. The political capital that black society has today will vanish . Just look at what is happening today in the inner cities . ... A big fight for government services , It will get worse .
 
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Decades of black and Hispanic political power in NYC was just seized by Muslim Marxists…​


The political power structure in New York City is changing fast. In the very recent past, the city was ruled by black and Hispanic political movers and shakers. That’s now coming to an end as the rise of the Muslim Marxists takes over the entire city.

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Decades of black and Hispanic political power in NYC was just seized by Muslim Marxists... - Revolver News

Here come the Marxist Muslims.
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As I mentioned in my above post ... The political power of blacks in this country is over ... or will be very soon. ... You think they care about black slavery in America ... Slavery is still alive in the Islamic world if one looks into it.
 
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Decades of black and Hispanic political power in NYC was just seized by Muslim Marxists…​


The political power structure in New York City is changing fast. In the very recent past, the city was ruled by black and Hispanic political movers and shakers. That’s now coming to an end as the rise of the Muslim Marxists takes over the entire city.

revolver.news

Decades of black and Hispanic political power in NYC was just seized by Muslim Marxists... - Revolver News

Here come the Marxist Muslims.
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As I mentioned in my above post ... The political power of blacks in this country is over ... or will be very soon. ... You think they care about black slavery in America ... Slavery is still alive in the Islamic world if one looks into it.
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And the communist think they will control the islames; the islamers will cut off the communist heads. Look at the middle east it has been done before.
 
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Mayor Blames "Slavery" As Chicago Wrestles With Deadly Crime Spree​

The city of Chicago, long run by Democrats, has an infamous black crime problem. Over the course of Father's Day weekend around 47 people were shot and 8 people killed, with a 105% increase in violent crime compared to 2025. On "Juneteenth", a drive-by mass shooting in Princeton Park injured at least 12–14 people with over 100 shell casings recovered.
The situation is so bad that many black commentators are starting to speak out, demanding to know why black Americans can't seem to stop killing each other.

All the evidence, all the data, suggests that Father's Day weekend violence in the black community is so egregious exactly because there are almost no fathers. In Chicago, 80% of all black births are to single mothers and 72% of black children live in single parent households, compared to a national average of 25% across all ethnic groups. Approximately 70% of all juveniles facing incarceration come from single parent households.
In a press conference addressing Chicago's national embarrassment, Democrat Mayor Brandon Johnson diverted the discussion into his own personal pet project on reparations. He argues that the "history of slavery" in the US is the source of income inequality; insinuating that income inequality is the root cause of violent crime in the black community. In other words, black-on-black crime is somehow all white people's fault.
The Chicago Mayor asserts that government handouts or reparations will solve the black crime issue, but the black community had much lower crime rates in the 1940s-1950s before welfare became ubiquitous and during segregation. In the 1960s when segregation was ended and President Johnson introduced his "Great Society" programs, crime among blacks skyrocketed. Clearly, something happened and it wasn't slavery or segregation.




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livingston said:
Folks I worked my entire life and don.t think I made $800,000. total. . No idea how that figure was picked out of the air. There is not enough money for that kind of payout ... ever. This is a scheme by the Democrats to keep black folks on the plantation ... The Democrat plantation . To be rolled out every 4 years . One reason why it will never happen is the Hispanic population will surpass Blacks and even white folks in the coming decades.
There will be no such thing as white guilt with them . They are a paternalistic society and not afraid of hard work. When they become a large enough voting block they will instill these values in our society. Look to the Hispanics that have been here for several generations . ... They are not the gang bangers one sees on TV.
When this happens there will be a seismic shift in how this country is run . ... And they payouts made to society. Millions of Hispanics crossed into this country during the Biden years . They are not going home folks . You cannot deport them all. The political capital that black society has today will vanish . Just look at what is happening today in the inner cities . ... A big fight for government services , It will get worse .
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Well they keep murdering each other and aborting their babies, so it might just happen.
 
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Rap said:
Chattel slavery and Jim Crow lasted for centuries. It is what it is.
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Slavery was a basic institution far longer than that.

Since before recorded history, and it's still going on in Africa today, so at least tens of thousands of years.

Literally every person on earth is probably descended from both slaves and slave owners at some point.

So, what makes that narrow, less than a century long window special that *those* slave descendants deserve reparations paid by the other slave descendants ?
 
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I would take really good care of slaves if I had some. They would have a tremendous amount of work to do, and not even terrible work - more like chores, but other than that, I would treat them like family.
 
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TEOTWAWKI inc. said:
I would take really good care of slaves if I had some. They would have a tremendous amount of work to do, and not even terrible work - more like chores, but other than that, I would treat them like family.
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Historically they were viewed as more valuable than say the Chinese laborers.

The slaves were considered valuable property. The Chinese were basically disposable.

If a slave died or was injured in the field, you had to spend money to replace or rehabilitate them.

If a Chinaman got injured or died you just fired him and hired a new one. Their wages were frequently less than what the slave owners had to pay for upkeep.

Sort of like the difference between the mule you own and a rented mule.
 
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spat said:
Slavery was a basic institution far longer than that.

Since before recorded history, and it's still going on in Africa today, so at least tens of thousands of years.

Literally every person on earth is probably descended from both slaves and slave owners at some point.

So, what makes that narrow, less than a century long window special that *those* slave descendants deserve reparations paid by the other slave descendants ?
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Basically since the creation of man. Israelites were enslaves by the Egyptians. I’m not saying it’s proper, good, or right.
 
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TEOTWAWKI inc. said:
I would take really good care of slaves if I had some. They would have a tremendous amount of work to do, and not even terrible work - more like chores, but other than that, I would treat them like family.
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I grew up on a farm in South Carolina during the 1960s and 70's. My dad would sometimes mention that he would take care of slaves just as well as he takes care of our tractors. They both need to run well enough to get the job done.

It wasn't so much meant as a racist or whatever type of thing. It was more of a matter-of-fact type of thing. As a kid, I got what he meant. It wasn't rocket science even for a young boy.
 
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spat said:
Slavery was a basic institution far longer than that.

Since before recorded history, and it's still going on in Africa today, so at least tens of thousands of years.

Literally every person on earth is probably descended from both slaves and slave owners at some point.

So, what makes that narrow, less than a century long window special that *those* slave descendants deserve reparations paid by the other slave descendants ?
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Genuine ignorance? I highly doubt it, but will share for posterity:

All forms of slavery involve forced labor, but chattel slavery specifically treats human beings as personal property, or commodities. While enslaved people throughout history often had legal rights or paths to freedom, chattel slaves had no legal standing. They could be bought, sold, inherited, and their children were automatically born into bondage. Because historical discussions about "slavery" frequently encompass everything from temporary debt bondage to war captivity, using the term "chattel slavery" clarifies the total, lifelong commodification of human beings—often rooted in racist ideologies. The differences between the two concepts lie in the extent of ownership, the permanence of the status, and the *legal framework surrounding the practice*:

Chattel Slavery
Legal Status: Enslaved individuals were legally classified as movable property (like livestock or furniture) rather than legal persons.
Permanence: It was a permanent, lifelong condition, and an enslaved mother's status was automatically passed down to her children, ensuring generational bondage.
Rights: Chattel slaves had absolutely no human or civil rights, no right to marry, own property, or seek legal protection from violence.
Historical Context: Most prominent in the Transatlantic slave trade and the antebellum Americas, where it became heavily racialized.

Slavery (Broader Definition)
Legal Status: A broad umbrella term for any system in which one person is completely controlled by another and forced to work without consent or reasonable compensation.
Variability: Enslavement could be temporary. For example, in many ancient civilizations or in systems of debt bondage, individuals could work off a debt or be emancipated.
Rights: Enslaved people in non-chattel systems historically had varying degrees of recognition—such as the ability to own property, earn wages to buy their freedom, or assimilate into the dominant society over time.
Historical Context: Practiced in various forms globally throughout history, ranging from prisoners of war in ancient Rome to serfdom or debt slavery.
 
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