BOHICA NY- Reparations Edition

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

I really don't even know what to say other than LEAVE NY, ASAP.

Some New Yorkers demand $800K each in reparations as state commission holds hearing

Gov. Kathy Hochul signed a bill in 2023 creating a commission to study slavery in New York and examine forms of reparations

nypost.com

 

[CNYJohn]

New York was a free state

End of the line for underground railroad

Alot of New Yorkers fought in the Civil War to put down the southern rebellion and ensure the blacks were freed

My family came here long after that war , long after the amendment abolishing slavery was enacted

My money doesn't owe anybody anything

Fukk those aholes

 

[Bigfoot]

Hochul's an asshole.

Besides that. Even if the black people were to get the $800,000 per person, most would never say Okay, now we’re good. Nope, they would demand another payment, and another payment after that, and so on.

The whole idea of reparations is pants on head retarded for so many different reasons.

 

[Rap]

Descendants of U.S. slavery underwent a centuries-long process that produced a distinct American ethnic group. Those descendants occupy a unique legal and economic position in U.S. history, and reparations policy should centrally factor lineage in determining compensation.

 

[dsdmmat]

Descendants of U.S. slavery underwent a centuries-long process that produced a distinct American ethnic group. Those descendants occupy a unique legal and economic position in U.S. history, and reparations policy should centrally factor lineage in determining compensation.

Reparations is a scam to keep people voting a certain way. The idea comes from people who want to retain power by delivering promises instead of results. I do not believe there is currently anyone alive that was a slave or a slave owner. The people who were enslaved and the people who enslaved them are long dead.

Question: do the families of the the people who fought to end slavery get these so called “reparations.”

Another question: If your great great grandparents committed a crime are you supposed to be tried for it?

 

[Robin]

Find me one ethnic group, racial group, tribal group that was not involved in using their fellow human beings as slaves. What a scam this reparations scam is and anyone that takes to it is so fucking stupid they deserve to be ignored, at the least.
Robin

 

[Rap]

Reparations is a scam to keep people voting a certain way. The idea comes from people who want to retain power by delivering promises instead of results. I do not believe there is currently anyone alive that was a slave or a slave owner. The people who were enslaved and the people who enslaved them are long dead.

Question: do the families of the the people who fought to end slavery get these so called “reparations.”

Another question: If your great great grandparents committed a crime are you supposed to be tried for it?

This is not a matter of inherited criminal liability. It's a question of unresolved institutional liability and intergenerational economic consequence.

Reparations arguments generally are not saying “you are guilty for what your ancestors did.” They are saying that current U.S. society is historically continuous with systems that produced lineage-specific intergenerational effects, and that those effects justify lineage-conscious remedies.

Whether someone’s ancestors fought for the Union is morally relevant historically, but doesn't erase the existence of the underlying institutional systems or their downstream consequences.

 

[Rap]

Find me one ethnic group, racial group, tribal group that was not involved in using their fellow human beings as slaves. What a scam this reparations scam is and anyone that takes to it is so fucking stupid they deserve to be ignored, at the least.
Robin

You're always welcome to exclude yourself from the conversation. Of course, ignoring reality carries major risks.

 

[Bigfoot]

$800.000 per person, lol. Almost a million dollars - that's crazy talk.

 

[Robin]

You're always welcome to exclude yourself from the conversation. Of course, ignoring reality carries major risks.

Whose reality, yours? Please list the major risks. C'mon what risks!
Robin

 

[Rap]

Whose reality, yours? Please list the major risks. C'mon what risks!
Robin

Reparations conversations are a matter of public discourse and are informing future policy. Whether you are pleased about that or not, it's happening.
The risk in excluding yourself from the conversation when you obviously have strong feelings is that you forfeit the opportunity to influence the outcome.

 

[dsdmmat]

This is not a matter of inherited criminal liability. It's a question of unresolved institutional liability and intergenerational economic consequence.

Reparations arguments generally are not saying “you are guilty for what your ancestors did.” They are saying that current U.S. society is historically continuous with systems that produced lineage-specific intergenerational effects, and that those effects justify lineage-conscious remedies.

Whether someone’s ancestors fought for the Union is morally relevant historically, but doesn't erase the existence of the underlying institutional systems or their downstream consequences.

If the reparations are coming from taxpayer funds it is absolutely holding people who had no connection to slavery accountable for the sins of someone’s forefathers.

 

[C3D]

 

[Rap]

If the reparations are coming from taxpayer funds it is absolutely holding people who had no connection to slavery accountable for the sins of someone’s forefathers.

That's the nature of taxpayer-funded governance.
Slavery and Jim Crow were the law of the land. We're talking about institutional liability.

 

[CNYJohn]

That's the nature of taxpayer-funded governance.
Slavery and Jim Crow were the law of the land. We're talking about institutional liability.

I'm a simple living man , I read things simply

By your logic and my understanding you say that even though there were states that were slave free , those states are still guilty of slavery

By that then , Rhode Island can impose laws specifically on new Yorkers for no other reason than being new Yorkers

That's my take of your big words and long drawn out sentences

 

[dsdmmat]

That's the nature of taxpayer-funded governance.
Slavery and Jim Crow were the law of the land. We're talking about institutional liability.

That is your opinion. The post civil federal government took steps to correct the sins of the past. That in my opinion absolves current Federal government structure of any so called liability.

If you want to talk about the reconstruction into the pre civil right era the argument on reparations is with the southern states and the democrat party.

In my opinion any reparations are wholly unconstitutional. Just as I believe welfare is unconstitutional.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

I wonder if the descendants of a slave from NY in 1826 have it worse than the descendants of a free black that arrived in NY in 1828. It must be a measurable difference.