BOHICA NY- Reparations Edition

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If the Democrats are so gung-ho about their repertardations, how about they give most of their money to black people? And leave everyone else out of it.

That won't happen because the only thing the Democrats are gung-ho about is grift. That's what this bullshit is really all about. It's how the New York government rolls.
 
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Rap said:
Genuine ignorance? I highly doubt it, but will share for posterity:

All forms of slavery involve forced labor, but chattel slavery specifically treats human beings as personal property, or commodities. While enslaved people throughout history often had legal rights or paths to freedom, chattel slaves had no legal standing. They could be bought, sold, inherited, and their children were automatically born into bondage. Because historical discussions about "slavery" frequently encompass everything from temporary debt bondage to war captivity, using the term "chattel slavery" clarifies the total, lifelong commodification of human beings—often rooted in racist ideologies. The differences between the two concepts lie in the extent of ownership, the permanence of the status, and the *legal framework surrounding the practice*:

Chattel Slavery
Legal Status: Enslaved individuals were legally classified as movable property (like livestock or furniture) rather than legal persons.
Permanence: It was a permanent, lifelong condition, and an enslaved mother's status was automatically passed down to her children, ensuring generational bondage.
Rights: Chattel slaves had absolutely no human or civil rights, no right to marry, own property, or seek legal protection from violence.
Historical Context: Most prominent in the Transatlantic slave trade and the antebellum Americas, where it became heavily racialized.

Slavery (Broader Definition)
Legal Status: A broad umbrella term for any system in which one person is completely controlled by another and forced to work without consent or reasonable compensation.
Variability: Enslavement could be temporary. For example, in many ancient civilizations or in systems of debt bondage, individuals could work off a debt or be emancipated.
Rights: Enslaved people in non-chattel systems historically had varying degrees of recognition—such as the ability to own property, earn wages to buy their freedom, or assimilate into the dominant society over time.
Historical Context: Practiced in various forms globally throughout history, ranging from prisoners of war in ancient Rome to serfdom or debt slavery.
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Yes, there are various forms of slavery. Some worse than others.

But if you think what was practiced in the US was worse than most of the rest of it, you're wrong.

The vast majority of slavery throughout history was chattel slavery. Milder forms like indentured servitude were relatively rare.

In North Africa at the same time we had slavery here they didn't breed slaves. With the source so close it was cheaper to just capture new ones than to raise children.

So, it's true that it wasn't hereditary, because they just castrated the slaves, there were generally no offspring to inherit the status.

And they took Europeans (and Americans) as slaves, to the point where we fought a war to stop them. You should look up where the marine corp hymn got "to the shores of Tripoli" from.

When slaves were cheap, they were treated worse. When they were expensive they were treated better. Same way you would treat a cheap car off Craigslist worse than you would an expensive one you got new from a dealer.

In many places and times they were cheap enough they would just be worked to death and replaced in under a year.

Sometimes both forms of slavery would exist in the same place at the same time.

A Roman slave in the salt mines (who was likely slavic, where the word comes from) was treated far more brutally, and there was zero chance they were going to pass their status on to offspring. They would never have a chance to have any.

At the same time and place, a household slave in Rome might have a relatively comfortable (for the time and circumstances) life, and even have a chance to eventually become a free man.
 
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