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I believe they have a few Ruger Precision rifles now.

Well I’m sure his primary, the rifle was much more expensive than these handguns.

Lol no. I didn’t see him though, so...

@Marine Cpl don’t ask me how, but you just reminded me of something crazy. The guy who battled it out with the cops in Brooklyn a few days ago was killed by a sniper shot from the helicopter.

Ugh... you just opened up a can of worms. Now someone is going to post a chart with fisherman injuries and rant about how cops don’t face danger.

Well all else fails, change topics!

You realize those shots could be from specific training right?

I’m quite familiar with the rules. Again, none of that matters. You said he couldn’t get a permit. He can. That’s it. You added all the other statements after the fact. OP, if you get a NYC permit and your own firearm, you’d never have to shoot in NJ, but if you wanted to, I’ve never ben to or...

No, but that was never the point of the thread and doesn’t explain what you wrote which I was responding to. The OP asked how he can acquire ammo to shoot at ranges in NJ. I told him he’s spending too much on range fees, he should get a NYC permit and just get his own handgun. You told him he...

I don’t see how a defense on tactical considerations would be expected to hold up without more importantly establishing a physical threat (not based on proximity) commiserate with the use of deadly physical force. I guess in the end, any defense would have been grasping at straws regardless. I...

The defense was stupid for bringing it up at all.

I read it. I don't see how the "21' Rule" ever applied here. The core question so to speak should have been, "Is being pushed to the ground justifiable grounds for deadly physical force?" I'm fairly certain we all agree that it is not. The author uses examples of perceiving non-weapons as...

What analysis is needed? The video is pretty clear. He killed someone for pushing him. If that was a cop, everyone on this forum would be screaming murder.

Paid in lead.

Truebeliever is right, most of the Safe Act applies anyway once a cop retires.

Same old arguments. I'm not going to feel any worse for taking advantage of laws that pertain to me than you should for taking advantage of laws that pertain to you.

That's not true at all. It's wrong to have to get one at all, but it is easy to get a NYC premise permit.

I'll just never get how any of this is the cops' faults. No one upstate forgoes getting a carry permit because their fellow gun-loving NY'ers in the City can't. Or maybe even the county next door. I made it clear early on that part of the reason I was never interested in the fire department, a...

With the money your spending going to a rental range, you should just get your handgun permits.

I’d be more upset by the countless millions spent on proven to be pointless community appeasement bullshit.

You should make a formal complaint. Lol Btw, having spent 4 years in SF, I can assure you that those units have plenty of non-standard issue equipment, including guns, all purchased by you and me. And I know you won’t accept this, but there are elite law enforcement units that are just as...

Government contracts often drive innovation. Think of how many guns wouldn’t be on the civilian market if not for government contracts driving development.

I don’t get the hubbub. Considering the low number purchased, we’re talking pennies as far as government contracts go. And remember, these guy don’t just “kick doors.” They are also the high-value target transporters for top-tier criminals.

I’ve seen these guys train at Rodman’s Neck with DEA and NYPD specialized units. They are very high speed. I don’t see any problem with this. That money would have been spent in other ways regardless. Of all the examples of government waste, I don’t see how this could be considered one. At...

Technically those scenarios could’ve resulted in trouble already. Look, I’m not trying to defend this law. I’m just shocked by how many of you seem to think it’s going to be so easy now to remove guns that we’ve all basically lost them already. You may recall months ago me saying I don’t...

Random people cannot file these, just fyi. So you’re safe when you stiff the next waitress on a tip.

Civil “reports” are different. The charge for filing a false report is for making criminal reports. Last week we almost had one. Long story short, the arrest was made but in her interview, even though she kept insisting she “made it up,” it was pretty obvious that the perp had pressured her to...

The simple fix is to have repercussions for false reports. Hopefully that’s added in the future since the odds of this new law being repealed are near zero.

Now that she’s free, I’d hit it.

Don’t write, “dead,” in this thread unless it is true!!

Call the local police yourself, confirm that it is legal and get a name. When your neighbors call and you tell the responding cop, “Hey I know, my neighbors right? I expected this so I called you guys last week and Officer Snuffy told me I was good to go,” the scenario won’t play out to their...

They couldn't have acted on a report like this. It’s a wellness check basically. He could’ve theoretically told them to, “pound sand,” but if this is going to become a thing, what efficacy is there to making your first one adversarial with the same department that will be investigating your...

Considering you just read what happened from start to finish, how would, “Go pound sand,” have beneficially altered the situation for this man?

I may or may not know someone who built one of these specifically for competition use and after some minor tweaking and a barrel change, has had zero hiccups. Edit: they may or may not have used the version with the 19 grip, 17 slide.

I feel like this is finally “the” time... I have a good feeling about this one.

More and more I’m thinking I really can’t leave for awhile. I’m either going to have to stay on the job until I can move out of the state, or retire and just “not comply”. I can’t leave for family reasons for at least another 10-15 years, but I want to retire in about 5-7.

Truebeliever is right, “you guys” aren’t the ones guiding police hatred (the leftist media), fomenting it (leftist politicians) or acting on it (mostly underclass street skells and their white, woke “allies). I’ve never once had a gun-loving American walk up to me in the street to speak a...

No one died thankfully.

TPF lol. Caught that. Fyi, the process changed for acquiring handguns. We have to hand deliver the acquisition to the Bronx now. They did that shit on purpose.

I looked into it here but I don’t like the process so I’ll pass. The PC has a drawer full of notification letters written by cops with tax stamps. All a PC has to do is open that drawer and revoke all permissions. Not worth it.

Well since this thread will be a shit show anyway, I might as well answer the question truthfully. Silencers and SBR’s are legal for NY LEO’s.

Sorry. If it is any consolation, I wasn’t working a few years back when my friend had a Garand sniper model walk in. $100.

I get lucky a lot at work. Just two weeks ago I grabbed a near mint Ruger Red Label 12ga O/U for $150. I’ve gotten other guns for free, including a mint .30-30 Marlin 336 from 1955.

I really hope not. Since you are on guard already, take whatever precautions possible and stick to them. One thing I used to do was take note of every camera I passed throughout my day and stare directly into them so that if the need arose, I could give those locations as proof of my prior...

Of course, they play the game just as well as perps. All lawyers know how to screw cops, it's not exactly rocket science. But I've finally figured out how to avoid all trouble: I sit at my computer all day long making notes for my Dungeons and Dragons campaign, punctuated by a long gym break...

Come on, 18 years. Unless one hides their entire career, they don't get to the end without sitting across from IAB a few times.

I welcome the scrutiny. This forum would appreciate it too I’m sure. Go for it.

Read the court decision shadow posted. Then consider rationally the context of his statement within the confines of this discussion. Hint, the court decision does not allow for knowingly shooting at cops conducting any sort of lawful police business involving you (or anyone else). So yeah...

It has nothing to do with the point of the video, so either he didn't watch it and went with what he expected the video showed or he watched it and didn't get the point. Either way, a clear example of predetermined bias effecting judgement. I'm an expert on this now since it has been trained out...

Thanks for the proof that you did it knowingly. At least then when we kill you, we have the evidence we need.