Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Civil War
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Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
This thread has a J6 vibe to it if you all catch my drift.
Just thought I'd mention it.
Just thought I'd mention it.
Willyone
6.5 Creedmoor
^^^ yep ^^^
US RIFLE M1A
.45 acp
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different words for the same concerns.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
All I know is there will be a "Battle of Port Jervis".
Sargepug
9mm
Dam, for a gun crowd, a lot of "nervous nellies" here! Yes, I am FBI, Full Blooded Italian! To each his own, but history "always" repeats itself. For one to think that a civil war will not happen again, is very naive. We are so politically divided and this point, that for the first time in my life, I haven't seen any rotten left wing bumper stickers. Think about it, have you guys? I live in a very liberal county and town, where I have seen countless Obama, Hillary, Biden, etc. bumper stickers, during election years. I haven't seen one Biden sticker, which is actually refreshing, but a sign of the times.....
repete
.338 Win Mag
Thats a good thing, should delay your attack for quite some time, Mr. Epps!
Wait until he gets to the part about unicorn farts....
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
That’s hilarious.
I agree and said the constitution and the country is under attack but all these people will never unite to do as you dream of.
And also let me get this straight so they broke the rules so we’re ok to break the rules too? So essentially the constitution doesn’t matter to you either. That’s not the way to go about it. Trump is 78 years old and you really think he’s good enough to install as president until he dies like a communist country? Not the way to do it.
IrishMick
.44 mag
This. Look at most sub Saharan Africa conflicts over the last 40 years also. Many of the Central American conflicts as well. If we should reach a point where this occurs it won't be a North v South, Red State v Blue State, or even a State v State conflict. Battle lines will be drawn across several factors, probably starting with conservative v liberal, then add rome racial divisions, religious/morality differences, economic/class, and so forth. This event will truly be neighbor against neighbor. When you look at the past conflicts mentioned above, they had some overtones of some of these divisions, but not to the scale and breadth that an enormous nation like the US has. Tribal war is the ugliest type of war, and look at how tribally we the US are divided and that will give you a scope of how fucked this could become. Look at this forum, where we all have ostensibly the same goals and interests in preserving our 2A rights and shooting guns. Fuckers on here regularly get at each others throats over minute disagreements. Wait 'till the big issues that tear the fabric of the Republic come into play.
I dare say most of the Country believes Trump will win unless the Democrats can engineer another fraudulent election at which time the Trump supporters are going to go off the rails, and if Trumps DOES actually win, the Left is going to claim the Russians stole it for him and they're going to riot-loot-burn while decrying their "democracy" has been stolen and they will go off the rails...either way it's going to be a shit-show produced by the cabal of the New World Order (now known as the World Health Organization) with the intent of taking control of the Country and using UN "Peacekeepers" as their strong arm...speaking of which, doesn't the Blue color of Helmit paint absorb red laser light?I keep hearing more and more about this summer might be worse than summer of 2020 with the pandemic with people going all out loony.
Heck, look at what a few feet of snow did to folks out my way here in Buffalo region -- looting stores, shootings, etc. Over a few feet of snow.
People also seem more off than usual too. Like they can't be trusted.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Poor bastard, who ever that was.
You asked:
Kind of iffy but:
Numerous times civilians were targeted by both sides the Civil War
Kind of controversial
The Battle of Wounded Knee 1890 Army Massacred Native Americans on the Reservation
Winner:
Kent State 1970. Score:
Ohio NG-4 Students-0
This one shows the potential:
The Bonus Army 1932. police did the shooting but the Army routed (no mention in history if they fired weapons at the citizens) the bonus army from their camp and burned the encampment.
I honestly think its a legitimate concern. It is worth discussing but I don't think this is the way.
As stated earlier we will likely face an economic collapse like Venezuela that will be the fuse that causes us to Balkanize with multiple factions each with their own interests. Nothing good comes out of that. That's how this plays out.
Xae289
.223 Rem
I hear conservatives talk about it and am uncomfortable. For all the talk, conservatives are not the types to make the first moves, but are the type to be more competent during it.
I hear leftwingers talk about it and I become concerned. They're way more likely to start it and have way less idea of what it will entail.
The idea of it horrifies me. I imagine the Irish Troubles, 9/11, the George Floyd Riots, and the Russo-Ukrainian War all rolled into one massive American tragedy.
I hear leftwingers talk about it and I become concerned. They're way more likely to start it and have way less idea of what it will entail.
The idea of it horrifies me. I imagine the Irish Troubles, 9/11, the George Floyd Riots, and the Russo-Ukrainian War all rolled into one massive American tragedy.
We've had many many discussions about it (all purely hypothetical for entertainment purposes of course) over the years.
For every serious thing that should be discussed, there is an equal amount of discussions that need to be exposed for their absurdity. The only way to counter outlandishly absurd topics is to let them die in the light.
ManualF150
.308 Win
I agree. We are getting this information for many sources, and from the general consensus they seem to be legitimate.
As I like to always put it... if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, thank goodness.
Same views on full on nuclear war between the US mainland and China/Russia/Iran. I hope to God it never happens, but when not just folks on this forum talk about it, but countless YouTube videos and even the MSM (including NYC government talking about it), then to me, that is a legitimate AND credible concern.
It could be called the “CFR” Cluster Fuck Rebellion - the participants would be the BBF - Bloody Blue Falcons.We'll need to come up with a pithy name for this band of merry men.... a name noted with 3 letter acronym. Preferably one that is not already taken, being used
What I see happening if the absolute worst happened. The military will go one of two ways. 1) Desertion rate cripples most units and they fall back to guarding their own. or 2) the military moves to secure critical infrastructure and protect it until the civilian government is restored.
The police will do the same either fall apart and guard their own or guard critical infrastructure until order is restored.
The most likely situation for the public is general lawlessness and the population is on their own.
Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
ASS. American Shit Storm.
But why limit it to three letters?
ASSWIPE. American Shit Storm War Including People Everywhere.
Or there’s DUMBASS. Democracy Undone Mostly By the American Shit Storm.
When I first read this thread I started typing “Are you effing kidding me?” But I’m too sharp. I didn’t fall for it. I know a truck stop shitter when I see one.
I mistakenly forgot to add "refused" in this line "Can you provide any examples of our military to fire on civilians?" I agree with you 100%. Our military has never refused to fire on civilians. From strike breaking to The Bonus March, where 2 American heroes, MacArthur and Patton attacked unarmed civilians, killing 3 people, to forcing desegregation of schools at bayonet point to being used to fight rioters in the 1960's to Hurricane Katrina. Anyone who believes the military won't continue to follow orders is a fool.
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Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Yes I see left wing signs daily especially LGBTQ things. Flags, bumper stickers all sorts of things. Yea Ive seen Biden Harris signs too. I see plenty of pro abortion signs too. No one is denying the potential for a civil war but you being a nut job saying we should do a military coup to install Trump as supreme leader is a bit much. Good luck.
No such thing as a full blooded Italian. Just saying. I am not an expert on DNA, but I do know the DNA from that area has been muddied for many, many years. No such thing as a full blooded Italian.
An open discussion of what may be possible in the near, to far future is not a bad discussion to have, the wording of the OP is a bit off to me though.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
The military in general might refuse.
But there will always be enough who will follow the orders, and they will always end up being in the right place at the right time.
There were very few Germans who would have been willing to send the Jews to the showers, or turn on the gas. But, the majority of them were willing to arrest people for harboring them and send the Jews to the camps.
You only need a few to kick in the doors. The rest will then rally around "their comrades" when the people behind those doors shoot back.
Just look at how it goes now with bad cops. There are a small minority of scumbags who revel in abusing civilians, but the rest always rally to their defense when they are accused of it.