Constructing AR using fixed-mag lower= "take possession"?

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Zerex said:
The Maryland AWB is not going before SCOTUS. Snopes was not given cert and Venderstock was a disaster.

Educate yourself.

Feeling good about your opinions, does not make it true.
I simply do not want anyone arrested for standing out in a field alone, shouting at windmills.

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Zerex said:
A NYSP NICS check , was completed on that 4473 RECENTLY ???..............or was it two years ago, or was it in another state? Or do you really have the SEMI endorsement on your CCP? NYSP NICS require it.

Getting Ammo is bad enough today.

In NYS you may get a visit, soon.
Damn

I would estimate that there are probably over 1 million people++ in NYS who want to buy a full featured AW.............. and may have have now said "fuck it" to waiting, and to the law, and they will find out how well AI works.

This ain't 2014 anymore, Homer...........the all seeing eye, homes in on required FFL video surveillance, and some gun ranges, for Ins purposes.
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So, if you buy a bolt action AR as complete gun, upper, lower, fully assembled, do you still need the semi endorsement to do it ?

What if you sell that upper back to the same FFL 5 mins later ?

Because you just bought a lower with extra steps.
 
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Zerex said:
Not trolling.

All the FFL's I frequent will no longer transfer an AR lower, with or without a semi endorsement..................especially after the Mean Arms mag lock ban, in February.

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Attorney General James Stops Sale of Gun Accessory that Aided Buffalo Shooter

NEW YORK – New York Attorney General Letitia James, together with Everytown for Gun Safety, GIFFORDS, John V. Elmore P.C., Connors LLP, and Collins & Collins
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This got most FFL's attention.

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NYSP-JTTF Dealer Inspection Checklist 07.25.2023 — 2AM Patriot

This 4-page checklist is being used by agents of the NYS Police “Joint Terrorism Task Force” and “Domestic Terrorism” units when they conduct dealer compliance inspections at FFLs in New York. It does not bear any identifying or self-authenticating information. It was supplied by two different agent
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Plus, 15 ATF offices in NYS with nothing to do but inspect the FFL's semi sales records.

Press Releases | ATF

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The Ostrich tactic does not work....................this is not Pennsylvania.
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Sounds like you need to find better FFLs.
 
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spat said:
So, if you buy a bolt action AR as complete gun, upper, lower, fully assembled, do you still need the semi endorsement to do it ?

What if you sell that upper back to the same FFL 5 mins later ?

Because you just bought a lower with extra steps.
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Nope, by his standards since you could convert it back it’s illegal to own it. By his logic nothing that could be an assault rifle ever can legally be possessed in NYS, but they can sell them. You won’t be arrested for possessing it until you commit a crime with it.
I think I have it right.
 
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Possession of a pg AR lower and a full featured semi upper, likely is constructive possession of an unregistered AW, in NYS.

I have extra AR uppers, for my 4 registered AR's, so I could safely own a bolt upper.
 
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State data analyzed by Gannett’s Albany Bureau shows there have been 7,442 arrests and arraignments under the SAFE Act through Jan. 21.



Plenty of AR's and HC mags and extra uppers have been discovered during domestic violence calls, and 911 injury calls.
Other traffic stops may also require a search of homes, if you get a DWI and have PP.

LE has the right and duty to conduct a home search and do..................7225 thru 2021..and counting.

Don't let it be you.

Wake up.
 
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Zerex said:
State data analyzed by Gannett’s Albany Bureau shows there have been 7,442 arrests and arraignments under the SAFE Act through Jan. 21.



Plenty of AR's and HC mags and extra uppers have been discovered during domestic violence calls, and 911 injury calls.
Other traffic stops may also require a search of homes, if you get a DWI and have PP.

LE has the right and duty to conduct a home search and do..................7225 thru 2021..and counting.

Don't let it be you.

Wake up.
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Moral of the story ? Never call the government for help.
 
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Who calls the Government for help?

Mugging victims, victims of domestic abuse, girlfriends, neighbors, friends who turn on you, motor vehicle accidents, personal injury accident situations, drug overdoses, burglary victims, process servers.

Would you dismantle the 911 system?
 
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Zerex said:
Who calls the Government for help?

Mugging victims, victims of domestic abuse, girlfriends, neighbors, friends who turn on you, motor vehicle accidents, personal injury accident situations, drug overdoses, burglary victims, process servers.

Would you dismantle the 911 system?
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Well, I might call it for an ambulance. But I'll crawl to the end of the driveway to meet if I can.

Do you know what all the people you just listed have in common ?

Their problem is over before the government gets there to "help".

When was the last time the cops stopped a mugging or a car accident by calling 911 ?

Calling the government for help in an emergency is a terrible idea. They'll arrive too late and probably cause more problems than they solve.
 
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The OP shouldn't be slammed for asking a gun question on a gun forum. The poster who seems to come off as if they know everything about everything is the problem. Some like to argue. Right or wrong, those fingers just keep going and going like the battery bunny is banging their drum.
 
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The OP shouldn't be slammed for asking a gun question on a gun forum. The poster who seems to come off as if they know everything about everything is the problem. Some like to argue. Right or wrong, those fingers just keep going and going like the battery bunny is banging their drum.
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I get that. That’s not my issue with this thread. My issue was they posted this thread and then proceeded to bring up all the reasons he was scared to do what he asked about. Why post it then? All he needed to do was call the cop shop purple tie squad and ask if anything was settled, they’d have said no, and we could have moved on. Instead we’re stuck with this septic tank of a thread. They then decided that a mag lock wasn’t legal enough for them or permanent enough and decided to go kalikey instead. Kalikey is so easy to swap to a fully functioning AR an 8 year old could do it. Kalikey accepts detachable mags, but isn’t semi auto because a simple bolt swap or upper. So easy to do, in fact much easier than a fixed mag swap and zero tools needed. I get the decode cause it seems it’s CCIA and not safe act related, but that was easy enough to determine.
This thread was comical from the start.
 
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The whole point is to make us scared. It's pretty much terrorism and or entrapment. This sort of topic might be a dead horse, but I'll take it as an escape from some of the other stuff going on in the world. Might not make sense to a lot of folks but.....
 
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