DemocRATS strike "so help me God"

[stuck in ny]

I would be fine with keeping religion private. Keep the focus on protecting the constitution.
I don't see how an atheist would stop being one in a foxhole. I'm assuming the atheist position would be when you die you just lose consciousness permanently.

 

[DoD1776]

I would be fine with keeping religion private. Keep the focus on protecting the constitution.
I don't see how an atheist would stop being one in a foxhole. I'm assuming the atheist position would be when you die you just lose consciousness permanently.

I agree, it’s not going to stop someone from being a good soldier. But I also think for the “so help me god” it should be that way for good, it’s the way we’ve been doing this for decades and decades. It’s about destroying the United States.

 

[stuck in ny]

"Allah" just means "God" in Arabic. They used the same word for Marduk, Apollo, YHWH, or Brahma.
The middle east and central asia are littered with hellenistic, jewish, christian, and buddist artifacts.

 

[DoD1776]

"Allah" just means "God" in Arabic. They used the same word for Marduk, Apollo, YHWH, or Brahma.

Yes, I know that, Allah Akbar means god is great. But they’re just trying to change everything to push their agenda. Example: they’re going to try and make it so you can wear a hijab on the house floor, thats not allowed. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vo...ive-minnesota-hijab-congress-headgear-ban/amp

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

I don't see how an atheist would stop being one in a foxhole.

I don't either.

 

[stuck in ny]

Yes, I know that, Allah Akbar means god is great. But they’re just trying to change everything to push their agenda. Example: they’re going to try and make it so you can wear a hijab on the house floor, thats not allowed. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vo...ive-minnesota-hijab-congress-headgear-ban/amp

Oh, definitely. But you have to stickle for language. Words can have their meaning twisted.

 

[Jmac00]

interesting, in the middle east you must worship Allah, if you don't you're either a slave or you die. But in America, we have religious freedom

apparently, in America, that means Allah is more important than God.

 

[Darth]

When a deist swears an oath to God, they are placing their soul in eternal damnation if they will do not live up to that oath. If you don't believe in that as a fact, then taking an oath means nothing. So putting your life on earth in jeopardy for taking the same oath would make perfect sense. We don't know of Gods' interest in oath breakers, for those that believe, it is keen, very keen, and not to be trifled with, eternity is kind of a long time.
Robin

Personally, if I were God, and you broke one of my rules and were currently causing harm to people, I'd stop that ASAP.

I wouldn't let your harm continue because "you'll get yours in the end."

So either God can't do anything about this, or he can and chooses not to. Kind of a dick move.

 

[Darth]

What about "one Nation under God"

That never should have been added many years later, let alone continue.

 

[Darth]

I would be fine with keeping religion private. Keep the focus on protecting the constitution.
I don't see how an atheist would stop being one in a foxhole. I'm assuming the atheist position would be when you die you just lose consciousness permanently.

Right. You'd be in the same state you were in before you were born.

The "atheists in foxholes" lie that theists use is "when you are in a life or death situation, you'll pray to a God."

Not only is that blatantly and demonstrably not true, even if it were, people make irrational decisions when faced with death all the time. Like shitting their pants.

Does that prove shitting your pants is a good thing?

 

[Darth]

I agree, it’s not going to stop someone from being a good soldier. But I also think for the “so help me god” it should be that way for good, it’s the way we’ve been doing this for decades and decades. It’s about destroying the United States.

Bad argument.

It's like when people say "keep one nation under God in the pledge. Been there a long time, why change it?"

It's was added much later. It's actually been not in there longer than in there.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

That never should have been added many years later, let alone continue.

And why is that. The Country was founded by an enormous number of Christians, not atheists. (and I'm not talking about the native Americans)

 

[Darth]

And why is that. The Country was founded by an enormous number of Christians, not atheists. (and I'm not talking about the native Americans)

That's not true on its face, but even if it were, they saw the inherent problem with that...and therefore left it out.

It was added by bible thumpers later.

 

[holdover]

Marine navigation charts are updated regularly and do change. Not sure what you mean by your post.

They do not demonstrate any dramatic change in sea levels , the islands in the maldives for instance are only 3 feet above sea level and have been that way for thousands of years since the islands were populated . The coast of Florida is one of the lowest lying places in the US , and even a minor change in water level would have a dramatic effect on the coastal maps . Water level depth is extremely important for submarine navigation, changes in coastal water levels would be demonstrateable in the Naval maps. They are not. water levels in Manhatten and in Venice Italy have been constant. Sure there may be a few inches of rise and fall every few years , but nothing alarming. Secondly , even if you still belive in the fairy tales of man made global warming, there is no way to differentiate which degrees of warmth were man made, and which degrees of warmth were natural .
What Im saying in my post is that Global warming, at least to the extent that the globalists are fearful of is baloney . The polar caps are not melting and causing the ocean levels to rise. Its voodoo science. Its a massive con job cooked up to shake down people for carbon taxes .The earth has been warming and cooling and moving through cycles before people were ever here.

Al gores claim of 20 feet sea level rise by 2020 is absurd .In fact, sea levels seem to be rising at maybe three millimetres per year. Twenty feet is over six thousand millimetres, so at this rate, we wouldn’t even be halfway by the year 3017.

Nothing to worry about its a scam. Thankfully he didn't get his carbon tax .and now that the cats out of the bag he never will. That's why it was so urgent.

 

[holdover]

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[GOPerfect]

I have no issue with removing the reference to god. Regardless if what did it is. News flash... Not all Americans believe in the same god/gods.

I have my faith, others have there own. I do not judge those that follow herder type religions. No one is right and no one is wrong. You follow what you follow.

I do have and I take issue with changing pronouns. I am not a they or a them or a theirs. Only one of two different types of people will be testifying, a man or a woman. No other possible choices.

I believe that these changes are more for the wrong reason than for the right reasons!

 

[holdover]

Personally, if I were God, and you broke one of my rules and were currently causing harm to people, I'd stop that ASAP.

I wouldn't let your harm continue because "you'll get yours in the end."

So either God can't do anything about this, or he can and chooses not to. Kind of a dick move.

Not really, who are you to know the reasons of God? why would he think your important anyway? What is suffering to God? I have no idea if God is real or not. Cant tell. But what I do know is that some creation he made judging his creation would be absurd.

Do you walk around and ask the slugs and worms what they think of you? Would you care? God doesn't owe you a fucking thing , not an explanation or a reason , doesn't give a fuck if your mad at him . what are you important or something? In 2007 a Tsunami took the life of over 200,000 people in one day.men women kids grandmas babys, puppys . Do you think he owes you an apology? Did you apologize to your socks for making them dirty?

I don't know if there is a God or not, beyond my scope of understanding , But I don't come to that conclusion because he doesn't intervene to show mercy , or to stop evil acts . Not really sure what it is . But I certainly wont judge him .

 

[Mr. terzmo]

That's not true on its face, but even if it were, they saw the inherent problem with that...and therefore left it out.

It was added by bible thumpers later.

so messed up

 

[Darth]

Not really, who are you to know the reasons of God? why would he think your important anyway? What is suffering to God? I have no idea if God is real or not. Cant tell. But what I do know is that some creation he made judging his creation would be absurd.

Do you walk around and ask the slugs and worms what they think of you? Would you care? God doesn't owe you a fucking thing , not an explanation or a reason , doesn't give a fuck if your mad at him . what are you important or something? In 2007 a Tsunami took the life of over 200,000 people in one day.men women kids grandmas babys, puppys . Do you think he owes you an apology? Did you apologize to your socks for making them dirty?

I don't know if there is a God or not, beyond my scope of understanding , But I don't come to that conclusion because he doesn't intervene to show mercy , or to stop evil acts . Not really sure what it is . But I certainly wont judge him .

Yeah, it must be my immoral self. I think 200,000 lives are worth a bit more than dirt on my socks.

And I don't believe a God exists. Therefore I get my reasons he might have based on whatever religion is involved. And if according to your religion your God is omnipotent, yet let's this crap continue, your God is a dick.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Not really, who are you to know the reasons of God? why would he think your important anyway? What is suffering to God? I have no idea if God is real or not. Cant tell. But what I do know is that some creation he made judging his creation would be absurd.

Do you walk around and ask the slugs and worms what they think of you? Would you care? God doesn't owe you a fucking thing , not an explanation or a reason , doesn't give a fuck if your mad at him . what are you important or something? In 2007 a Tsunami took the life of over 200,000 people in one day.men women kids grandmas babys, puppys . Do you think he owes you an apology? Did you apologize to your socks for making them dirty?

I don't know if there is a God or not, beyond my scope of understanding , But I don't come to that conclusion because he doesn't intervene to show mercy , or to stop evil acts . Not really sure what it is . But I certainly wont judge him .

slugs/worms and socks have no soul so I refraim from talking to them

 

[Darth]

so messed up

Agreed. But they thought it fit for some reason.

 

[holdover]

slugs/worms and socks have no soul so I refraim from talking to them

And there you have it.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Yeah, it must be my immoral self. I think 200,000 lives are worth a bit more than dirt on my socks.

And I don't believe a God exists. Therefore I get my reasons he might have based on whatever religion is involved. And if according to your religion your God is omnipotent, yet let's this crap continue, your God is a dick.

so really messed up

 

[holdover]

"""Yeah, it must be my immoral self. I think 200,000 lives are worth a bit more than dirt on my socks."""

LOL that's a nice opinion but it may not be true

""""And I don't believe a God exists. Therefore I get my reasons he might have based on whatever religion is involved. And if according to your religion your God is omnipotent, yet let's this crap continue, your God is a dick."""

if you don't believe in religion , then why do you measure him against it? that makes no sense.Lets say all the religions of the world are wrong does that mean there is no God?

The only thing that needs to weighed is was is and isn't, what was and what is. I don't need to attack the doctrines of any religion because I don't believe in God . I simply don't know if god exists or not. I don't judge people who practice Islam .or hari krishnas to make my point. I don't need to.

 

[GOPerfect]

so really messed up

Not because he has little faith, but it shows that he has zero respect for many of the members on this forum. I have my own beliefs, many differ from others here, but I will not disrespect others here as bout their deep faith and beliefs.

Why any one would engage after these deep and personal attacks and insults is beyond me.

 

[Darth]

"""Yeah, it must be my immoral self. I think 200,000 lives are worth a bit more than dirt on my socks."""

LOL that's a nice opinion but it may not be true

""""And I don't believe a God exists. Therefore I get my reasons he might have based on whatever religion is involved. And if according to your religion your God is omnipotent, yet let's this crap continue, your God is a dick."""

if you don't believe in religion , then why do you measure him against it? that makes no sense.Lets say all the religions of the world are wrong does that mean there is no God?

The only thing that needs to weighed is was is and isn't, what was and what is. I don't need to attack the doctrines of any religion because I don't believe in God . I simply don't know if god exists or not. I don't judge people who practice Islam .or hari krishnas to make my point. I don't need to.

...and yet this thread still exists with people freaking out because they are removing yet another piece of forced religion in this government.

The persecution nonsense isn't working.

 

[Darth]

Not because he has little faith, but it shows that he has zero respect for many of the members on this forum. I have my own beliefs, many differ from others here, but I will not disrespect others here as bout their deep faith and beliefs.

Why any one would engage after these deep and personal attacks and insults is beyond me.

Cool story. Can you provide even one example of a personal attack?

Or is this to more fake persecution because the truth hurts?

 

[holdover]

...and yet this thread still exists with people freaking out because they are removing yet another piece of forced religion in this government.

The persecution nonsense isn't working.

What does it matter to you? Your getting upset because they want to put Donald duck on a coin? Who cares? if they wanted to swear a pledge to porky pig , whats the harm? I don't see where your coming from.

 

[Darth]

What does it matter to you? Your getting upset because they want to put Donald duck on a coin? Who cares? if they wanted to swear a pledge to porky pig , whats the harm? I don't see where your coming from.

You don't see a problem with an unconstitutional practice being forced upon those that do not wish to participate?

And nobody is getting upset about anything. Except maybe those crying persecution again.

 

[Doc8404]

Bad argument.

It's like when people say "keep one nation under God in the pledge. Been there a long time, why change it?"

It's was added much later. It's actually been not in there longer than in there.

Your math/skills is off once again.

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