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VietnamEraVet said:
Sorry, but it is over. Loeffler is down by 35,000 votes with MAYBE 17,000 overseas military ballots outstanding; Perdue is up by about 1,000 votes with Dem areas still not fully reported.

It’s going to be a very ugly time while the Dem’s fuck this country over. Ugh.
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Only if we let them. We're not powerless. We still have influence over our lives and our economic power.
 
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SonOfSun said:
Primaries aren't general elections. I didn't vote for either of them in the primaries. I voted for them in the general.

I didn't vote for them because they were a "Dream Team". I voted for them because they were not Trump. You could have substituted in a ham sandwich and I would have voted for it over Trump. You may not be aware, but most democrats *really* dislike Trump. Not Trump is all that was needed to have people come out in droves.
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Literally everything you claim to dislike about Trump, these guys are much worse about (with the exception of talking too much).

"I don’t like the way the Kaiser twirls his mustache, so I'm voting for that Hitler fellow...."
 
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GOPerfect said:
My turn to pick on you a bit. Just a bit, and not just you. The Qualified Immunity....I am going to guess that next to no one really understands the meaning behind it. I will bet that the overwhelming VAST majority of people do not understand that without Qualified Immunity no cop in America would be able to do their job. Not one.
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Why wouldn't cops be able to do their job? Not asking to be obtuse, but since you're a LEO I'm guessing you might have a perspective that isn't apparent to a non-LEO citizen.


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No knock warrants, you say you want them to end, I take it from your post, again, you do not know what you are speaking of..
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By no knock warrants I mean just busting into people's homes unannounced or as the door is broken down. I should clarify that a bit, I think they are OK in certain cases but they get used way too much. To me the factor is immediate threat of harm. For example, if the police have credible info of where a kidnapping victim is being held, yeah do a no knock and help out the kidnapping victim - take the perp by surprise. If it's to try and catch someone with drugs but nobody's life is directly in danger then yeah, evidence preservation shouldn't be a justification for a no knock raid.


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This Bail reform that you speak of and the way you speak of it; again, no true idea of how or even whythe system works the way it does. If no money was involved in the bail system, near 90% would NOT show up for court. This is part of what I do. In Buffalo alone, there are currently 5700 warrants for failing to show up for court. 5700!!!!
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I guess my perspective is that if the judge is going to consider letting a person out on bail it's because he thinks they will return to court. If the judge doesn't think they will return then it should just be no bail at all. I'm surprised at the 5700 bench warrants though for not showing up. Wow that's a lot. Buffalo has something like 255K people. That's more than 2.2% of the population with warrants out, and that 255K includes kids, so the percentage is likely reasonably higher for actual adults. I never would have imagined that.
 
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SonOfSun said:
That's more than 2.2% of the population with warrants out, and that 255K includes kids, so the percentage is likely reasonably higher for actual adults. I never would have imagined that.
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Probably not everyone with a warrant lives there. Some may be just in the area and committing crimes.
 
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Is funny these vote count anomalies...

I was watching when 90% of the vote was counted and both Republicans were ahead. One by 70k votes, and the other by a little less than 50k.

So the remaining 8-10% of the votes all went one way? Not impossible of course, just highly improbable without some sort of influence... Statistically it just doesn't work that way!

Again... They (Progressives) have figured it all out! How to steal elections right in front of you and everyone else's eyes! Simply amazing!
 
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spat said:
Only an idiot would craft a "bail reform" policy that lets people who were arrested for not showing up to court out on bail.

It takes a Cuomo level idiot to make that policy "$0 bail".
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Purdue is done. In four years the republicans have gone from commanding the oval plus all of congress to nothing. Since they need all 50 Dems to sign up on bills the craziest bills won’t pass so I guess that’s something.
 
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libertysnake said:
Only if we let them. We're not powerless. We still have influence over our lives and our economic power.
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liberals have been destroying your economic power for years .This will not only continue but magnify .I have often made the point . The main reason for no fracking in NY State is not environmental but Cuomo does not want hundreds if not thousands of newly made conservative millionaires on the southern border . (sending money against his power structure in political races ) . Now you will have the same thing in Washington, Destroy fracking . Destroy the coal industry. . one would be paying 5-6 Dollars for fuel (including home heating oil ).. Cost of goods bought will rise .. Fuel surcharges will be back in place ...They want folks begging to buy that electric car. . This is just a little sample of how they will destroy our economic power. .. Could sit here for hours typing. They have claimed that they will destroy Trump and his family... and anyone that supported him .. That means us folks .. Make no mistake. We are on some list.
 
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General Malaise said:
Let me put it another way. Most far right wing folks don’t support gay marriage. Yet many republicans don’t care.

See where I’m going here? It’s ok to not be in lock step with every political leaning just because your party dictates it.
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Is this something you are just figuring out? Really, how old are you, can you vote?
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libertysnake said:
We need to have serious discussions, regardless of outcome, about how to organize and exert every legal means of pressure we can.

No more sitting back.
No more hoping and praying.
Only effective, right action.

It doesn't have to all our only focus in life, but it is time and effort we must commit to pooling.
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I’m up for anything reasonable. Not sure what you have in mind but I don’t see that we have too many options.
I think the republicans party is splitting much like they said the left would but we may actually do it.
We have no legal recourse at all. The liberals in NYS control everything and the liberals nationwide control everything. Even if, and I repeat even if right now they don’t control the Supreme Court they will within the first 100 days.
The republicans squandered this chance and watch what the liberals will do. There will be no squandering this. The USA as we know it is over with. Take a picture of what it looks like right now because in two years you won’t notice her.
Other problem is once the liberals pass the free everything there’s no way it will be taken away or taken back. Legally there is just any candidate running on removing it won’t get elected.
 
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Dr. Evil said:
www.newsmax.com

Ga. Shocker: Democrats Warnock, Ossoff Win Senate Runoffs

Democrat Raphael Warnock edged ahead of incumbent Sen. Kelly Loeffler in one of Georgia's two Senate runoffs on Tuesday, lifting the party's hopes for retaking the chamber from the GOP. Late Tuesday night, at least two news organizations had called one of the races for...
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Sure is a shocker. Just two months ago she won. What’s changed since then? Not a whole lot. The senate screwing up the stimulus and Trump repeating fraud claims. That’s all I can think of. Not saying there wasn’t fraud but when you watch the news and all you hear is him losing court case after court case and he keeps repeating it it doesn’t bode well with moderates. Same with the stimulus. You turn on the news and hear how destitute people are and the food lines and Mitch says no to $2,000 stimulus package those hurting and the moderate sided with the demonrats. Well I guess they literally sold our liberties for a few thousand dollars. I hope it was/is worth it.
 
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Saltwater60 said:
Sure is a shocker. Just two months ago she won. What’s changed since then? Not a whole lot. The senate screwing up the stimulus and Trump repeating fraud claims. That’s all I can think of. Not saying there wasn’t fraud but when you watch the news and all you hear is him losing court case after court case and he keeps repeating it it doesn’t bode well with moderates. Same with the stimulus. You turn on the news and hear how destitute people are and the food lines and Mitch says no to $2,000 stimulus package those hurting and the moderate sided with the demonrats. Well I guess they literally sold our liberties for a few thousand dollars. I hope it was/is worth it.
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Or, maybe Abrahms got enough people to "move" to the area, register and vote.
 
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^100% agree with the idea that the Free Shit Army never gives up taken ground. The FSA will get $2k checks soon, and perhaps covid stretches long enough to get a UBI in place.

As for the end of the republic Obama had both chambers as well for two years. The Democratic Party of a decade back was far more reasonable than today but the country will, in two years, still look largely like it does today methinks.
 
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Blimey said:
As for the end of the republic Obama had both chambers as well for two years. The Democratic Party of a decade back was far more reasonable than today but the country will, in two years, still look largely like it does today methinks.
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I pray you are right, but I will continue to plan for you being wrong.
 
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The moment Mitch McConnell likened the $2000 stimulus checks to "welfare for rich people" I knew the senate races in GA were doomed. I've never met someone making less than $75k/year who I would consider rich. In some areas, that's a pretty lousy income.

I lived in Gwinnett county for 8 years. If you had told me when I lived there that it would be a blue county in 10 years, I would have laughed in your face. I guess the dems get the last laugh today.
 
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Blimey said:
As for the end of the republic Obama had both chambers as well for two years. The Democratic Party of a decade back was far more reasonable than today but the country will, in two years, still look largely like it does today methinks.
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You're fucking delusional. I have no words for your ineptitude regarding our political structure at this moment in history.
 
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