Nothing government does is free.....it's the cost to you and me.
Yes
Just because we might not be in agreement doesn't mean there's a need to question my respect for the Constitution, or my love of country for that matter. So how about we just leave that be.
Seems to me ya got too all excited and shit yourself
Anyways, I'll dribble on (or drivel on). A criminal can make a quick pills sale or two and make a couple hundred bucks, or just roll someone and steal their money. There are new 9MMs & .380s available for +,- that $amount (SCCY comes to mind). When (if) the BGC works the criminal won't be able to buy a gun. He'll have to steal one. Some will get away with it and some won't. BGC won't stop them all, but hopefully some.Just because we might not be in agreement doesn't mean there's a need to question my respect for the Constitution, or my love of country for that matter. So how about we just leave that be.
I do respect peoples rights. But as far as I'm concerned if someone gets popped for beating their wife or kid, does an armed robbery, assaults or beats the shit out of another person without a good reason, shoots someone without due cause, etc. ect. ect. (watch the news) they're either fucked up in the head, or evil. And they shouldn't have access to, or the Right to buy a gun...just my opinion. And like I said, the NICS check is a BS process, and the VAF is more BS. Both are faulty but we're stuck with them, and I am not a fan of either. But there are some people who shouldn't have the right to have a gun.
As for training, I'll yield to you on that, government over steps their authority. But I still believe training for some if not most newbs is of benefit. Even if the firearms dealer or FFL needs to "shame" them into it. I'll mention though, I know a gal who's had her CC for several years and I wouldn't want to be within a half mile of her when she has gun in hand. She would be a poster child for the need for training.
Seems to me ya got too all excited and shit yourself
I'm not defending or saying that I'm a big supporter of the BGC as it is. The whole BGC system is fucked up, and it seems that it will get even worse. Add to that Chatty Kathey's new laws and those likely to come in the future. It's all BS. I like the idea of taking and keeping guns from the assholes without penalizing the rest of us. The system as is sucks.
And no need to tell me how fucked up the BGC system is. I've had my PP for 25 years and more recently my CC, and I'm running into problems with the system. NY and the Feds have stolen our Right To Bear, and they now consider it a "privilege".
You keep expounding on the virtues of the BGC, then say you don't think they work. which is it. A person that knows he/she/it is a criminal, won't bother with a LGS, they will simply steal one or buy one off the streetJust because we might not be in agreement doesn't mean there's a need to question my respect for the Constitution, or my love of country for that matter. So how about we just leave that be.
I do respect peoples rights. But as far as I'm concerned if someone gets popped for beating their wife or kid, does an armed robbery, assaults or beats the shit out of another person without a good reason, shoots someone without due cause, etc. ect. ect. (watch the news) they're either fucked up in the head, or evil. And they shouldn't have access to, or the Right to buy a gun...just my opinion. And like I said, the NICS check is a BS process, and the VAF is more BS. Both are faulty but we're stuck with them, and I am not a fan of either. But there are some people who shouldn't have the right to have a gun.
As for training, I'll yield to you on that, government over steps their authority. But I still believe training for some if not most newbs is of benefit. Even if the firearms dealer or FFL needs to "shame" them into it. I'll mention though, I know a gal who's had her CC for several years and I wouldn't want to be within a half mile of her when she has gun in hand. She would be a poster child for the need for training.
Seems to me ya got too all excited and shit yourself
I'm not defending or saying that I'm a big supporter of the BGC as it is. The whole BGC system is fucked up, and it seems that it will get even worse. Add to that Chatty Kathey's new laws and those likely to come in the future. It's all BS. I like the idea of taking and keeping guns from the assholes without penalizing the rest of us. The system as is sucks.
And no need to tell me how fucked up the BGC system is. I've had my PP for 25 years and more recently my CC, and I'm running into problems with the system. NY and the Feds have stolen our Right To Bear, and they now consider it a "privilege".
Can we apply those to voting too ?
Classes and background checks will keep bad guys from getting guns ?
Why release them from jail? I expect you know the answer. If not you could ask those who release them, or those who vote for the people in charge.
Expounding the virtues? Then I'm failing to make myself clear.
What other rights have these requirements?
Exactly. Just like sex ed. Now that it's in the school curriculum everyone makes responsible and well thought out decisions regarding sex.
You fully support the right so long as you jump through the hoops you deem necessary. Fuck that. Anything beyond passing a NICS check is NOT constitutional carry.Im am in favor of gun rights and common sense gun regulations.
Hence my post stating that I fully support the right of law-abiding Americans to carry firearms for self-defense.
the Governor and I, don't see eye to eye.
I've got news for you about the NICS check.
I just met a 24 year old (married) man who was worried about sex with his wonderful pregnant wife while she's pregnant, because he doesn't want her to get pregnant again while already pregnant.
Not to nitpick, but in regard to this - why should MY rights be crippled for the sake of someone who should be locked up?
