Israeli-American ties, good or bad? Somewhere in between?

[Pale Rider]

Wouldn't someone who is murdering woman and children be on the dark side? I'm confused.. Who do you think Epstein was BTW??

they blow up an entire apartment building because there was a few bad guys in it , (they claim) thats the justification.

If somebody killed your family and you tracked them down to an apartment building and blew it up and killed 50-60 people, you would be charged with 1st degree murder. Nobody is going to give you pa ss .

That's a faulty analogy. If someone had killed several of my children and were still shooting at the rest of them, from a house where there were other people who knew that the shooters were shooting at my family, and had been warned to get out, but decided to stick around to give the bad guys cover, I wouldn't hesitate to hoot into that house.

 

[holdover]

That's a faulty analogy

its not a faulty anaogy, its not even an analogy. Isreal did bomb apartment buildings with civilians in them and justified it because bad guys were there, they even bombed a refugee camp because some bad guys were there.

I dont understand why you would defend the war crimes of another nation. its beyond me . its immoral. I wouldnt defend the war crimes of our own soldiers. what kind of men are you? who am I even talking with?

 

[holdover]

and had been warned to get out,

LOL nobody was warned. they are Amalek .

This what the butcher of gaza said to his troops just before the invasion of Gaza.

1 Samuel 15:3​

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Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”​

its on you tube still if you care to watch it

Netanyahu's Horrifying Biblical Link: Amalek and Gaza​

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[Saltwater60]

''Prominent journalist Tucker Carlson issues a terrifying warning to Washington.

He declares the world will soon discover exactly how many innocent women and children Israel murdered.''.

Tucker Carlson has gone over to the dark side. He is a rabid antisemite. He even claims to have been attacked by a demon. The fact that someone would cite him to support their point tells me all I need to know about that person.

He’s gone off the deep end. He has sided with Russia as well.

 

[Saltwater60]

"Wouldn't someone who is murdering woman and children be on the dark side? I'm confused.. Who do you think Epstein was BTW??"

You mean Hamas? Yes, they are definitely dark side. Israel doesn't murder anybody. They take more care to avoid civilian casualties than any country ever has. And Israel doesn't attack anyone who doesn't attack them first. Who Epstein may or may not have been is totally irrelevant. And I agree that you are confused.

These scum hide in and among the citizens so of course there will be issues and some civilian casualties. We had them as well so are we any different?

 

[spat]

its not a faulty anaogy, its not even an analogy. Isreal did bomb apartment buildings with civilians in them and justified it because bad guys were there, they even bombed a refugee camp because some bad guys were there.

I dont understand why you would defend the war crimes of another nation. its beyond me . its immoral. I wouldnt defend the war crimes of our own soldiers. what kind of men are you? who am I even talking with?

How many German and Japanese civilians do you think we killed in WWII ?

After Oct7th Isreal would be fully justified in hitting Gaza the way we hit Dresden or Tokyo.

If there's an apartment building with 100 residents, and 2 guys are shooting at you from a window, I'd have no problem calling in a JDAM strike through the roof. That's just how war goes.

Also, what makes you think there were *any* civilians in the building ? Because of the rampant perfidity perpetrated by Hamas, you basically have to assume *everyone* is a combatant until proven otherwise.

 

[holdover]

How many German and Japanese civilians do you think we killed in WWII ?

Thats a valid point,

 

[Pale Rider]

its not a faulty anaogy, its not even an analogy. Isreal did bomb apartment buildings with civilians in them and justified it because bad guys were there, they even bombed a refugee camp because some bad guys were there.

I dont understand why you would defend the war crimes of another nation. its beyond me . its immoral. I wouldnt defend the war crimes of our own soldiers. what kind of men are you? who am I even talking with?

"If somebody killed your family and you tracked them down to an apartment building and blew it up and killed 50-60 people, you would be charged with 1st degree murder. Nobody is going to give you pass ."

That is, indeed, an analogy, albeit a faulty one.

 

[holdover]

"If somebody killed your family and you tracked them down to an apartment building and blew it up and killed 50-60 people, you would be charged with 1st degree murder. Nobody is going to give you pass ."

That is, indeed, an analogy, albeit a faulty one.

except when its a fact and it happened then its not an analogy. Another Israel first winner. keep sending them your money

""Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen".

 

[Zerex]

The allies firebombed over 50 German cities like Dresden, and killed multi thousands of civilians because there are no civilians in war.

We firebombed Tokyo on March 11, 1945..............killed 100,000.

Hamas must be anhilated, as does half of Iran.

Israel is poverty stricken

Poverty in israel Articles and latest stories | The Jerusalem Post

www.jpost.com

The streets are not paved with gold.

 

[Pale Rider]

except when its a fact and it happened then its not an analogy. Another Israel first winner. keep sending them your money

""Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen".

But it is not a fact. I did not track anyone down to an apartment building and blow it up. That is what makes your example an analogy.

 

[spat]

But it is not a fact. I did not track anyone down to an apartment building and blow it up. That is what makes your example an analogy.

The main fundamental flaw in the analogy is that almost *everything* in war would be murder if judged by civilian standards.

The rules of civilian life are just not applicable in war. Calling your boss a son of a bitch isn't even a crime in civilian life. In war it can get you serious prison time.

Killing dozens of people will get you an award in war, in civilian life it makes you a serial killer.

A civilian cop who killed gang members on sight based only on how they dressed would be a monster.

A soldier doing the same with the enemy is just how you fight a war.

 

[Pale Rider]

Whaa? they just launched a surprise attack in sept against Iran , they have bombed syria and lebbanon almost not stop for years .

Do you really want to assert that Israel has not been the victim of attack from Syria, Lebanon or Iran?