spat
.950 JDJ
The FFL is not the one who arrested her. They are both 100% at fault (it is not a 0 sum game).
Traveler From Texas to Maine Had Unregistered Handguns in Kent
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Very serious question. Should the cop have just ignored the call? What should he have done?
Eddie Gunks
.338 Win Mag
I thought you were done with this thread
What? No comments on the blow up doll jab? WTF?
spat
.950 JDJ
I said what i would have done in that situation, i would have answered the call, and if possession was the onle "crime" she was alleged to have committed, I would have looked for her, very slowly. Not sure how long you guys need to look before you call it, but I would not have found her.
Suppose slavery were still legal, how would you guys respond to a call of someone reported to be helping some slaves escape ? And before you go there, yes, I think this law is that bad.
mickw
.40 S&W
Serious question. What's wrong with the responding officer 1) Explaining to the woman why she can't can't stop and sell the pistols in the state of NY. 2) Asking the FFL to give her a gun lock. 3) Watching her secure them in her vehicle and sending her on her way to the state of Maine?
If it is any consolation, I think the same of ALL gun laws.
If I am not mistaken, she was still in the store when the police showed up. No chance in claiming she could not be found. This is a tough call, it really is. I know some here may think this is an easy decision to make, it is a tough call.
Don't arrest and lie to your supervisor, possibly lose your job or be suspended, possibly lose my lively hood because this women did not research prior to her trip.
I am still surprised that so many here, not you Spat, are putting more blame on the police, NONE of this would have occured if the turd employee not made the call.
None of this would have happened if the women would have spent TWO minutes to read the FOPA law. Two minutes prior to her trip.
Then the officer may have jammed himself up for breaking the law himself. This shit really is not as cut and dry as some are making this.
Sounds like pretty much none absent the facts we don't currently have. The FFL called the police, very likely utilizing the 911 system. The audio is recorded and transcribed into various computers. I'm sure he gave detailed info having already looked into the firearms she possessed. At that point, whoever was dispatched has few options to avoid dealing with this woman.
No matter what, the anti-2nd Amendment FFL involved in the case bears 100% blame. Period, end of story.
This comment justifies me saying that it's telling who remains the only person "liking" your comments in this thread.
mickw
.40 S&W
Understood, thanks for the reply. Too many laws in this state/region that can jam somebody up...whether it's an honest citizen that makes an honest mistake traveling through here...or it's the enforcement officers pushed into acting on it, knowing the laws are ridiculous anyway. This state/region is an epic fail at this point.
Because there's already a 911 call detailing a serious of "serious" (according to NY law) felonies being committed by said woman. So stopping her and ignoring them is now a fireable offense, which if done your suggested way, the FFL remains untouched, the lady likely makes it out of NY and the cop some seem to feel should take the brunt of this, well, it takes ALL of it.
mickw
.40 S&W
Got it, thanks for the reply. If it's one thing NYS is good at, it's making things more complicated then they really need to be...guaranteed.
Enforced by who?
Hence the issue.
Sorry, coming in late on this CF, off of Vacation.
Can you believe that FL doesn't even require a front license plate?
How do they even survive!?
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
As per the press release, she was charged with a class A misdemeanor, not a felony.
Do you think the cops involved had any discretion as to whether or not to charge the woman? How about if, hypothetically, she had sold the guns to the FFL?
Eddie Gunks
.338 Win Mag
Well then she would not have been in possesion of them.
Enforced by who?
Hence the issue.
Sorry, coming in late on this CF, off of Vacation.
Can you believe that FL doesn't even require a front license plate?
How do they even survive!?
Enforced by who?
Hence the issue.
Sorry, coming in late on this CF, off of Vacation.
Can you believe that FL doesn't even require a front license plate?
How do they even survive!?
BTW, who in the hell do you think you are? You think you're fucking special or something?
Just because you are enjoying your little vacation in Florida, doesn't mean you can't post while away!
You sir are on ignore.
Get an thing while down there?
I was in West Virginia most of the week, some really good ammo deals.
I was in West Virginia most of the week, some really good ammo deals.
This situation's equivalent of "concealed means concealed."
Pissed Off Patriot
.223 Rem
Oh, snap!
If you can't find anything you like while down in the Gunshine State, you aren't trying!
The last time I went down there, I ended up buying a VEPR in 5.45x39.
fartgamer
.223 Rem
I don't go there because he scalped people during the ammo frenzy. Dickwad.
You don't go where?
fartgamer
.223 Rem
Precision Thievery.
Oooooh, you responded after a couple of us were talking about out of state ammo and I got confused.
GUNSICK
6.5 Creedmoor
I heard they had to take down their Facebook page because it was getting blown up with angry comments. Don't do Facebook just heard some murmuring.
Jmac00
.475 A&M Magnum
lets not forget why this lady was selling the gun in the first place. She obviously doesn't have enough gas money to make it home. Now she is going to be a ward of the New Yorkistan Internment and re-education camp. I doubt she can post bail or would the state even let her post bail. I mean after all she is a major threat to society.
Trauma47645
.357 mag
Down on her luck woman tries to sell handguns to Federally licensed Firearms Dealer so she can move on with her life and she is now a CRIMINAL
but had she taken them to an anonymous .gov sanctioned "buy-back" event she would have been praised and awarded.
This is why Precision Armory and what ever Gestapo they called share the blame for this whole incident..
but had she taken them to an anonymous .gov sanctioned "buy-back" event she would have been praised and awarded.
This is why Precision Armory and what ever Gestapo they called share the blame for this whole incident..
Doc8404
.450/400 Nitro Ex
good point
According to the release:
The defendant was processed at the Sheriff’s Office and arraigned before Town of Southeast Justice Gregory Folchetti, sitting on behalf of the Town of Kent Justice Court, and was released on her own recognizance pending a future appearance in the Kent Court.
She is a criminal because she broke the law in New York State. Why is that so hard to comprehend?
None of us like the laws. Does that mean we go against them each and every time we want to?