Dr. Evil
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One epic performance.
I'm assuming the music was dubbed after? If this was NY and he had a CCP I'm sure they would work real fast to take it away.
Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)
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I'm assuming the music was dubbed after? If this was NY and he had a CCP I'm sure they would work real fast to take it away.
prambo
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Meh.
What are you going to do about it, even if it's true?
The source I trust the most has been carefully following all things related to "gray zone" warfare, with particular attention on cyber operations.
In a nutshell, their analysis and reporting of the fUSA.Gov and fUSA.Mil efforts, lead me to no other conclusion than the fUSA is woefully unprepared, both physically and IT-wise, for concerted cyber-attacks, regardless of who initiates them.
prambo
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Warning!!!!
Uber-Skank alert!!!
Argghhh!!! She's wearing "Old Crusty" again!!!
Grounds for...
Dr. Evil
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Replace "Putin" with the word "Hillary" as well as "Russia" with "United States" and she is saying exactly how I feel. Funny how that works.
Make sure while you are at War you are vaccinated! While you are dodging bullets you can only receive bribe funds if vaxxed!
No vax. No food …
Ukraine govt announce emergency payments to those impacted by war. But only if you double jabbed.. & payments have to be made through a new digital currency system..
The truth will always come to surface. Now we can see what this so called conflict is really about.
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prambo
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Make sure while you are at War you are vaccinated! While you are dodging bullets you can only receive bribe funds if vaxxed!
No vax. No food …
Ukraine govt announce emergency payments to those impacted by war. But only if you double jabbed.. & payments have to be made through a new digital currency system..
The truth will always come to surface. Now we can see what this so called conflict is really about.
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Coming to your neighborhood soon!!!
I can spell that!! - F-A-S-C-I-S-M
Phazer
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Actually, I think that he starts the music from his phone, and places it near the microphone on the podium, at the start of his skit.One epic performance.
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That makes it even more classic.
Blimey
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People queried 2+ weeks ago where some here were getting their info that Russia's progress was poor/stalled. At the time I said western analysts. Their analysis has now proven accurate.
Unless Ukraine somehow "breaks" and just completely capitulates overnight Russia has no option now except to retreat to its borders, keeping the donbass region as its prize. Its efforts to pacify Ukraine as a whole and denazify the country led by a jew not only have not worked, but won't work. I have in fact not read any analysis that says this has been anything but an unmitigated disaster for herr putin. Russia has probably lost around 10k troops now with injuries a multiple of that.
The elite russian troops and equipment waiting in the wings, ready to pounce once the JV portion of their military weakened ukraine, never came and never will, because it never existed. Russia has shown it is what it has always been: a force for massacring civilians, not fighting wars.
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Unless Ukraine somehow "breaks" and just completely capitulates overnight Russia has no option now except to retreat to its borders, keeping the donbass region as its prize. Its efforts to pacify Ukraine as a whole and denazify the country led by a jew not only have not worked, but won't work. I have in fact not read any analysis that says this has been anything but an unmitigated disaster for herr putin. Russia has probably lost around 10k troops now with injuries a multiple of that.
The elite russian troops and equipment waiting in the wings, ready to pounce once the JV portion of their military weakened ukraine, never came and never will, because it never existed. Russia has shown it is what it has always been: a force for massacring civilians, not fighting wars.
Russian military slog in Ukraine a ‘dreadful mess’ for Putin
More than three weeks into his invasion of Ukraine, Russian President Vladimir Putin's initial aim of an easy change in government in Ukraine is long gone.
apnews.com
People queried 2+ weeks ago where some here were getting their info that Russia's progress was poor/stalled. At the time I said western analysts. Their analysis has now proven accurate.
Unless Ukraine somehow "breaks" and just completely capitulates overnight Russia has no option now except to retreat to its borders, keeping the donbass region as its prize. Its efforts to pacify Ukraine as a whole and denazify the country led by a jew not only have not worked, but won't work. I have in fact not read any analysis that says this has been anything but an unmitigated disaster for herr putin. Russia has probably lost around 10k troops now with injuries a multiple of that.
The elite russian troops and equipment waiting in the wings, ready to pounce once the JV portion of their military weakened ukraine, never came and never will, because it never existed. Russia has shown it is what it has always been: a force for massacring civilians, not fighting wars.
Russian military slog in Ukraine a ‘dreadful mess’ for Putin
More than three weeks into his invasion of Ukraine, Russian President Vladimir Putin's initial aim of an easy change in government in Ukraine is long gone.
What do you think Russia does next?
Will they press on escalating with more deadly weapons? (Chemical, nerve, nuclear, full out artillery bombardment?)
Or,
Do as you said, claim the Donbass, sue for peace agreement, make Ukraine officially neutral and withdraw?
IrishMick
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I keep mis-reading the thread title as "Things are heating up in the Dumbass" and clicking on it looking for the latest Biden, Harris, Pelosi, or AOC video! Damn it!
Blimey
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They are already going hog wild with artillery. They could introduce chemical. And if they did that and the world doesn't stop them I suppose that's one way to pacify cities, so if they really want to just destroy ukraine instead of leaving it there is that option as well. In that scenario they could end up taking more cities, which they are already only taking by obliterating to begin with. There would be little left to govern though.
Ukraine is not getting back donbass or crimea and should probably give up on that forever. It's likely that russia eventually gives up on this and gets ukraine to commit to not joining nato. It keeps donbass, withdraws troops in the rest, and putin can pretend to his people that he won the war. Russia cannot withstand losing 500+ a day forever, and it's also just not got enough ammunition to flatten the country. Not joining nato, btw, will be in name only. Ukraine will then rebuild and be flooded with western arms and training to the point that an invasion 2.0 would be even more of a mess.
I still see the only intelligent play here for russia is that some guys at the kremlin murder putin and put somebody else in charge. Even if Russia does negotiate a peace (and it won't include demilitarization) he's wrecked its economy and standing for a generation at least.
As always I have no professional credentials in any of this and am little more than a thinking monkey to interpret what I read elsewhere from those who do know the topic.
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
Agreed the "settle" for more option seem the most realistic here. I don't think this was worth it for them to do this. This seems like a bad move, economically. Economies win in the grand scheme. China gets it, clearly, as they push more as they grow economically and have the leverage.
Russia has made a mistake being headstrong here. They thought they had more leverage than they did.
Blimey
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It's difficult to overstate how much putin has fucked russia. More than the west ever could. He has not only wasted many russian lives, obliterated its standing in the world, wrecked its economy, lost a ton of military equipment but beyond all that he's shown the world how incompetent they really are. This just could not have gone any worse for them unless he actually gets russia into a nuclear war. Russia played the quintessential bully who attacked the kid who the night before was shown some tricks by his older brother to defend himself, and now he's got a bloody nose and will never try that again.
Catskillkid
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This (nuclear war) is what concerns me. Part of me thinks that Putin is still stable enough to realize that using nukes, even smaller "tactical" ones for offensive operations would be an end game scenario for him that no nation on earth would accept without similar reprisal. Then there's the part of me that thinks he's really gone fill tilt with "bringing back Mother Russia" to it's former glory under the USSR or Russian Empire and is willing to use them to achieve those means if nothing else works. Once the nuclear genie gets let out of the bottle there's no putting it back in.
A few months ago I watched "The Day After" for the first time. Just last week I watched "Threads" (basically, the British version of "The Day After" just darker and more horrifying if you can believe that). In both movies the set-up had eerily similar premises of an escalating war between Russia (Soviet Union in the movies) and the US. In "The Day After" ICBMs were traded after a months long escalating conflict in Europe (East Germany if I remember correctly) and in "Threads" it was the same but in Iran where the Soviets invaded to install a new government which led to the US intervening, tactical nukes being used on the battlefield, and then a few weeks later...well you get the idea.
I'm really hoping that life doesn't imitate art.
holdover
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People queried 2+ weeks ago where some here were getting their info that Russia's progress was poor/stalled. At the time I said western analysts. Their analysis has now proven accurate.
Unless Ukraine somehow "breaks" and just completely capitulates overnight Russia has no option now except to retreat to its borders, keeping the donbass region as its prize. Its efforts to pacify Ukraine as a whole and denazify the country led by a jew not only have not worked, but won't work. I have in fact not read any analysis that says this has been anything but an unmitigated disaster for herr putin. Russia has probably lost around 10k troops now with injuries a multiple of that.
The elite russian troops and equipment waiting in the wings, ready to pounce once the JV portion of their military weakened ukraine, never came and never will, because it never existed. Russia has shown it is what it has always been: a force for massacring civilians, not fighting wars.
Russian military slog in Ukraine a ‘dreadful mess’ for Putin
More than three weeks into his invasion of Ukraine, Russian President Vladimir Putin's initial aim of an easy change in government in Ukraine is long gone.
Dont speak to soon, they only used 200,000 troops, they have over a million+2 million in reserve.
holdover
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He wont use Nukes unless they are attacked by NATO. Ukraine poses no threat to Russia at the moment .If NATO jumps in the fight, He is up against the wall. He almost has to.
spat
.950 JDJ
Ukraine never posed a threat to Russia. But he invaded anyway.
I think it's very unlikely, but I wouldn't completely rule out the use of tactical nukes.
If it's a buffer against NATO he wants, a wasteland makes a good buffer.
Plus the utter destruction of the Ukraine would severely hurt the west. They are essential trade partners for many things.
The only question is "what does Putin think the consequences for using tactical nukes would be ?"
The west has already nearly isolated Russia economically, and they have demonstrated that they will not persue any military involvement. What's he got to lose ?
,,,and that is due to modern technology,
ArmedCorgi
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This is what scares me so. I have no idea which side is worse and which side is stable and has sane minds running things.
On one hand we have the US and NATO potentially having provoking russia into this invasion and with members of it's governments both incompetent and pushing for war. At least saber rattling without regard for what the real consequences would be. On the other we have Russia who may have bitten off more than it can chew or simply miscalculated and is now between a rock and a hard place and needs to find a way to get out while saving face, but may feel cornered and like it's only choice is to use nukes.
Though I do think the use of nukes, tactical or strategic, is unlikely, if this whole thing gets played out the wrong way by either side......
I do have to say I'd feel a whole lot better about the situation if I had confidence in our leadership and knew that they had our best interests at heart.
holdover
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Ukraine wasn't a real threat to Russia , but it was a potential threat. ie: Once NATO put troops and weapons in Ukraine they would be a very real threat . Putin had to launch a preemptive strike before those NATO troops were there. He was trying to stop them from Joining NATO. All Ukraine had to do was say Ok. Like Finland. NATO knew it was a red line that would bring war. They fed the Chinese false info about Ukraine joining NATO knowing it was going to get back to Putin . The whole game behind this was to crack the Russian economy which is exactly what will happen. Its no accident.
I dont see the Russians quitting here, and they may take the citys but they have a massive and powerfull well backed insurgency to deal with for years , if they last that long. Nukes? Nah, not unless the west jumps in. If he did , the west might come up with some UN bullshit and justify an attack on Russia. Not worth the risk at his point if you ask me. I dont rule it out totally. shit happens.
holdover
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News has been pretty scare last two days , fox was showing the supreme court hearings all day
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Man do I love this woman!
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Dr. Evil
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"Let me see if I understand this correctly. Joe Biden is going to Poland 2 weeks after he sent Kamala there to fix Ukraine but he can't yet be bothered to go to the American southern border after he sent Kamala 9 months ago to fix it?"
Let me explain to you what is about to happen. There is enormous profit in war. They are about to rape us taxpayers again as they did during Covid.
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So it seems the mall that was hit was actually being used to store Ukraine military vehicles and equipment. Of course the MSM is portraying this as an arbitrary hit instead of blaming the NWO for using civilians as shields.
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spat
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Putin had to do no such thing.
Putin had to allow NATO troops to setup there. That's it. Let then move in and start contributing American tax dollars to Ukranian coffee shops and restaurants. That's no justification for invasion.
NATO has never invaded anyone, ever. Unlike Russia who doesn't seem to be able to go more than a few years without assimilating a neighbor against their will.
Would we be justified invading Mexico if they started cozying up to China ? Of course not.
The Cuban missile crisis and Bay of pigs are a completely different situation. This isn't the cold war anymore.
And the whole suggestion that Russia needs a buffer against NATO is ludicrous. Even if they do acquire Ukraine, what's that do ? If NATO decided to invade Russia, their control of Ukraine would amount to a few hours delay, at best. The difference in power between NATO and Russia is so vast it doesn't matter what the Russians do. If NATO decides to attack the Russian military will cease to exist in rapid order.
DoOver
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Jeepers they should have made hand painted in English "milk plant" plywood signs like them Arabs did when the Shrub bombed em.So it seems the mall that was hit was actually being used to store Ukraine military vehicles and equipment. Of course the MSM is portraying this as an arbitrary hit instead of blaming the NWO for using civilians as shields.
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holdover
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Not the way I see it.