Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)

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our government is far too corrupt, greedy, and spineless to even come CLOSE to the chutzpah needed to try to enforce another "iron curtain". They are way too focused on turning America into the next China to worry about REAL China.

Except we never enforced the iron curtain. We welcomed anyone who managed to escape.

The curtain was entirely the Soviet's creation.

China has thrived so well because they abandoned the idea of isolating the west, and they said "let's trade them under the table instead by leveraging our near-slave labor and DGAF environmental rules".

That is a very effective strategy, but it only works for so long. They are about out of time.

You don't need to be all "save every spotted owl amd special slug" insane like we are, but you can't just trash your environment forever either.

Also, you can run the near slave labor when your people are all dirt poor, but once you become prosperous that doesn't work anymore.

So, in short, their current policies worked very well to get them out of the hole Mao dug them into, but they are about at the end of how far those can take them.

 

[Tintalieau]

Did the search and no video of castration of Ukrainian POW to be found. What comes up is an admission of Ukrainian government official giving an order to castrate Russian POW's. It created quite a scandal at the beginning of the conflict.

Horrifying footage appears to show Russian captors castrating a Ukrainian prisoner of war

A horrific video posted online on Thursday appears to show a Ukrainian prisoner of war being castrated by his Russian captors.

news.yahoo.com

 

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Russia, Ukraine trade blame for dozens of deaths in Donetsk prison destruction

Dozens of Ukrainian prisoners of war appeared to have been killed when a prison building was destroyed in a missile strike or explosion, with Moscow and Kyiv accusing each other of responsibility on Friday.

www.reuters.com

 

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russia will be lucky to keep Donbas and you’re talking about them taking all of Ukraine?

LOL, as usuual you dont know what the the hell your talking about . They will take territory at least up to the Dniper river. But First Off, there is no other solution for Russia. NONE ZERO ZILTCH, Its do or die . 2ndly, Ukraine has no ability to launch offensive operations except locally. If you actually understood the situation on the ground you would see that. What happened to thier Major Offensive in Kershon? a big fucking nothing burger, which I posted it would be because, THEY DONT HAVE THE WEAPONS FOR AN OFFENCE!!! THATS WHY!! What the fuck are they waiting for? Winter?

I guarantee you well before that ever happens EU is putting boots on the ground and jets in the air. You can count on it

No.1 ,You cant guarantee anything. No 2. If NATO comes in on the side of Ukraine it would be total game changer which would result in a nuclear war . Could happen. I dont know.

You think the west is going to watch the orcs rape and torture the entire country?

Well no, They have been doing everything they can to support Ukraine the Ukraine government, the Ukraine military, Will they go so far as to fight a nuclear war over Ukraine?? I dont know. I do know that If attacked BY NATO Russia will release nuclear weapons and follow thier doctrine.

The west has staked its position and we’re not going to lose against feral beasts.

Like in Vietnam Afghanistan Iraq? LOL. Come on man. We just pulled out of Afganistan after 20 years of war and funding a puppet goverment and military . DO you have any idea how many people were killed after the US pulled out? You live in a dream world man.

sanctions are having a tremendous effect. The orcs’ imports are gone and they are using sixty year old tanks. Our human-designedsuperior weapons are blasting them to smithereens and we are sending more all the time.

I dont know if your just fucking stupid or you just dont read. No they are not gone .

China extends record imports of Russian oil into June, cuts Saudi supply - trade

China extended record imports of low-priced Russian crude oil into June despite a lockdown-induced slackening in its total crude oil imports, squeezing out supplies from the Middle East and West Africa, according to tanker trackers and traders.

www.reuters.com

China quietly increases purchases of low-priced Russian oil

China is quietly ramping up purchases of oil from Russia at bargain prices, according to shipping data and oil traders who spoke to Reuters.

www.cnbc.com

India is snapping up cheap Russian oil, and China could be next

There's been a "significant uptick" in Russian oil deliveries bound for India since March after Russia's invasion of Ukraine, industry observers say.

www.cnbc.com

Insight: Why India ramped up Russian oil imports, easing pressure on Moscow

Since the start of the war in Ukraine, the United States and its allies have leaned on countries to buy less Russian oil in a bid to punish Moscow for its aggression.

www.reuters.com

Russian Oil Flows to Europe Have Quietly Started Creeping Up

Litasco has been taking Russian oil into Lukoil-owned oil refinery in Italy; Turkey taking more

www.bloomberg.com

Russia's ruble hit its strongest level in 7 years despite massive sanctions. Here's why

The ruble has actually gotten so strong that Russia's central bank is trying to weaken it, fearing that this will make their exports less competitive.

www.cnbc.com

Russia's ruble is the strongest currency in the world this year

After its value plunged to less than a U.S. penny, the ruble is now trading 40% higher than before Russia attacked Ukraine. Why?

www.cbsnews.com

Europe’s resolve to stop buying Russian crude may be starting to ebb.

The continent’s oil refineries took 1.84 million barrels a day of crude from Russia last week, according to tanker tracking data compiled by Bloomberg. That was the the third consecutive weekly increase and took flows from Russia to Europe, including Turkey, to their highest in almost two months.

As for the T 62's Numer one. I havent seen any destroyed T62s in Ukraine. if they are useing them. Number 2 . you dont understand a god damm thing about the military or warfare in general. Number 3 . Tank on tank, the T62 is out dated, out classed and out gunned by western tanks , But thats all you know, because you read it in th NYT's. and its true.

However, listen up close and you might learn something. The T62 if they are even useing them can kill anything on the battlefield except a main battle tank. That doesn't make them useless by a long shot. As infantry support they are a hell of lot better than a modern day BMP . The Russians would use them in an infantry support role which is what they were designed for. Its a hell of an assest to have in your back pocket .

Yes the javlins can still take them out, Big deal they can take out a T90 too. For what they would be used for they are still an effective tool against infantry light armor and artillery fortifications built up areas. But keep reading the London daily . they are telling you Zelensky is about to storm Moscow riding on a tank.

As I said months ago Russia will be lucky to keep Donbas.

And you were wrong as usual. LOL. in case you didnt notice, they lost the donbass and Lushenk and have no ability to take it back .

Ukraine can only make local counter attacks . Thier armor has been degraded . Thier air force is degraded, Thier artillery is degraded, Your uninformed as usual .

himars have really done a number on the orcs already, and we’re about to send 300 km rockets to Ukraine as well.

The Himars are effective weapons, but they wont win the war .

Russia hasn’t moved the frontline meaningfully in months and you think they are going to take all of Ukraine?

OMG! your funny. they took siverdonesk and Luhansk last month. after your vaunted Allied army retreated with massive losses. mostly on foot or in civilian cars because they had no armor left!! Your a joke. Russia announced an operational pause to refit . Ukraine took total advantage of the situation by doing nothing. Ukraine announced losses of over 1000 men a day in the fight .

How much territory has the Ukraine recovered?

Russia is getting weaker (!!) over time, Ukraine is getting stronger. If we’ve not already hit an inflection point we are on the cusp.

Yeah, they will be at the gates of Moscow any day now. No Russia is not getting any weaker and Ukraine cant field an offensive to save thier lives. Literally.

not only does Russia not have the Donbas now but they are highly unlikely to ever take it all.

What map are you looking at? check the date! They hold over 90% of the Donbass 100% of Lushenck regions, they have taken the port in the south, and have pushed across the Dniper river. Are you drunk?

russia at this point should be concerned about whether they get to keep Crimea. Zelensky will not cede Ukrainian territory and some believe he wants to recover the territory stolen in 2014.

The Crimea? Dude step away from the crack pipe, Ukis are no where near Crimea. Its not even a remote possibility at this point.

Zelensky cannot cede what he does not have . He lost it , Its not his to cede. and He sure as fuck cant take it back.


The kershon""offensive is total bullshit. How do I know? Because if they had the forces to take Kershon and drive the russians back they would not have hit the bridges with Himars for the last week because they would need those bridges to pursue the fleeing Russians dumbass.

the offensive in Kershon is already over. the Ukis are no where near the city. Google map and actually look at it.

 

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Russia is about to be deemed a state sponsor of terror.

Kherson counteroffensive is properly beginning.

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russia is a force for evil and anybody who doesn’t yet realize this is a piece of shit. That goes for anybody in this thread cheering the savages along. Anyone unclear about which side is that of abject evil is a lost, broken soul.

I remain proud my tax dollars are going toward cleansing Ukraine of the orcs. Our himars, drones, javelins, howitzers, bullets all fighting this evil.

No they are not. LOL, Do you even think Bro? Its western propaganda. they are not going to do it. trust me.

If there is any evil in this war its caused by the CiA backed NAZIS in the ukraine. and fuck you for supporting them.

The reality is , its a war, and there are no angels in this . You see things in simplistic terms like a little kid . good guys bad guys, Lots of grey area if you were objective and not a brain washed moron.

 

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I remain proud my tax dollars are going toward cleansing Ukraine of the orcs. Our himars, drones, javelins, howitzers, bullets all fighting this evil.

Doesn't surprise me, A guy who ran out and got an experimental shot that wasn't tested on animals because he was afraid of getting a virus with a 99% recovery rate. A guy who voted for that embarrassment of a child smelling president Jo jo Biden. Now Your proud that Americans have to pay for a war in which the people gain nothing. Your proud that we gave Ukraine hundreds of Billions of dollars for their border security while we have open borders.

 

[Defilade]

Doesn't surprise me, A guy who ran out and got an experimental shot that wasn't tested on animals because he was afraid of getting a virus with a 99% recovery rate. A guy who voted for that embarrassment of a child smelling president Jo jo Biden. Now Your proud that Americans have to pay for a war in which the people gain nothing. Your proud that we gave Ukraine hundreds of Billions of dollars for their border security while we have open borders.

Geez! Easy on the beat down. You know these Betas need safe spaces.

 

[Acer-m14]

Did the search and no video of castration of Ukrainian POW to be found. What comes up is an admission of Ukrainian government official giving an order to castrate Russian POW's. It created quite a scandal at the beginning of the conflict.

it was a tv show ..

 

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Here , Chew on this:

Second Battle of Fallujah, (November 7–December 23, 2004), also called Operation Al-Fajr (“Dawn”) and Operation Phantom Fury, joint American, Iraqi, and British military campaign during the Iraq War that crushed the Islamic insurgents in Fallujah, Iraq,The U.S. military called it "some of the heaviest urban combat U.S. Marines have been involved in since the Battle of Huế City in Vietnam in 1968."U.S. military officials estimated that 70–90% of the 300,000 civilians in the city fled before the attack


After WEEKS of withstanding air strikes and artillery bombardment, the militants in the city appeared to be vulnerable to direct attack.

U.S., Iraqi and British forces totaled about 13,500. The U.S. had gathered some 6,500 Marines and 1,500 Army soldiers that would take part in the assault with about 2,500 Navy personnel in operational and support roles.[6] U.S. troops were grouped in two Regimental Combat Teams: Regimental Combat Team 1 comprised 3rd Battalion/1st Marines, 3rd Battalion/5th Marines, and U.S. Army 2d Battalion/7th Cavalry. Regimental Combat Team 7 comprised the 1st Battalion/8th Marines, 1st Battalion/3d Marines, U.S. Army 2d Battalion/2d Infantry, 2d Battalion/12th Cavalry[29] About 2,000 Iraqi troops assisted with the assault.[6] All were supported by Marine fixed and rotary-winged aircraft, Navy and Air Force fixed-wing aircraft; and USSOCOM Sniper Elements.

The 850-strong 1st Battalion of the Black Watch was ordered to help U.S. and Iraqi forces with the encirclement of Fallujah.[30] As part of Task Force Black, D Squadron of the British SAS prepared to take part in the operation, but British political nervousness about the possible scale of casualties stopped any direct UK involvement in the ground battle.[31]

The United States Air Force provided close air support for the ground offensive, employing F-15 Strike Eagles, F-16 Fighting Falcons, A-10 Thunderbolt IIs, B-52 Stratofortresses, and AC-130 gunships to carry out close-quarter precision airstrikes against enemy strongholds within the city. The Air Force also employed MQ-1 Predator unmanned aerial vehicles for reconnaissance and precision strikes, and the U-2 Dragon Lady high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft for intelligence collection, surveillance and reconnaissance before, during, and after the battle.


By 23 December when the operation was officially concluded, the casualty number had risen to 95 killed and 560 wounded.[12] British forces had 4 killed and 10 wounded in two separate attacks in the outskirts of Fallujah.[13][14] Iraqi forces suffered 8 killed and 43 wounded.[11

By November, it was estimated that the numbers had doubled.[32] Another estimate put the number of insurgents at 3,000;

Second Battle of Fallujah - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Pay attention, The battle of Fallujah lasted nearly 3 months . 3 weeks of air, and artillery bombardment and almost 2 months of Ground combat. Against 3000 fighters. Mariupol with nearly 15,000 professional soldiers armed to the teeth took roughly 2 months to fall.

This isnt fighting on an open battlefield , Its city fighting, and by its nature it takes time . Your ignorance in the matter is
obvious.

The Germans had the best trained Highly motivated professional soldiers the world had ever seen. But when they were thrown into a city street fight , All the advantages of Manuever warfare came to a fucking halt . It was a down and dirty street fight , room to room and floor to floor fighting . All those air planes and armor werent worth a shit in the sewers basements factorys of Stalingrad.

So when you point your arrogant finger and say they havent taken shit. Its laughable. Clearly you dont know a dam thing about it.

 

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Ukrainians Describe Russian Troops Astonished By Basic Amenities​

Local residents say when Russian troops occupied their village in the Kyiv region, they were dumbfounded by Ukraine's "high living standards." Now, most of the village is in ruins, leaving many locals homeless and in need.

 

[Acer-m14]

man them shot up and burned tanks rusted fast .. made by FORD ..

 

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Ukrainians Describe Russian Troops Astonished By Basic Amenities​

Local residents say when Russian troops occupied their village in the Kyiv region, they were dumbfounded by Ukraine's "high living standards." Now, most of the village is in ruins, leaving many locals homeless and in need.

 

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Ukrainian angels drop mostly peacefull anti personel mines in the city of Donesk

 

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I dont normally post stuff like this because its very difficult to prove either way. You either believe it or you dont.

Both sides have committed war crimes because its a war and people lose their shit . Nothing new here. Same goes for passing out goodies , Both sides do it. Shit like this is used for propaganda from both sides . True or not I try to ignore it.

Like that POW prison attack recently, No way to confirm who did it . Both sides had motives, The Russians are displaying parts of a HIMAR missile supposedly used in the attack . NO way to confirm if it didnt come from some place else.

I lean toward the Ukraians doing it . to stop the world from finding out about the orders given to the AZOV men, and war crimes. But I cant prove any of it. So I try not to post stuff that can be easily faked or misinterpreted. I like to use maps and common sense and knowledge of military affairs and history .

 

[SonOfSun]

Did the search and no video of castration of Ukrainian POW to be found. What comes up is an admission of Ukrainian government official giving an order to castrate Russian POW's. It created quite a scandal at the beginning of the conflict.

I guess this doesn't exist then?

Russian soldiers Castrate Ukrainian soldier

Gore isn't Funny, To Tell the Truth, Reality Since 2020

bestgore.fun

 

[SonOfSun]

I think Ukraine should offer the two eastern Donbas regions, in exchange for peace. Russia might take it.

And we should give Texas to Mexico, on condition they stop all illegals from coming here too right?

 

[GOPerfect]

I hear things are starting to heat up between Kosovo and Serbia

 

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Yup! that whole area. Shades of WW 1

 

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China building up as well....

 

[Mosinitis]

I guess this doesn't exist then?

Russian soldiers Castrate Ukrainian soldier

Gore isn't Funny, To Tell the Truth, Reality Since 2020

bestgore.fun

They called him a pedophile. There is more to the story.

 

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Zelensky: “Americans are ridiculous, decadent, over-fed and I have contempt for them” Virgin ...

Zelensky: “Americans are ridiculous, decadent, over-fed and I have contempt for them” Virgin America responds with $50 billion more in free money, crawling on their knees praising his glory....

slug.com

Elon Musk Secretly Told Biden And Zelensky To Pound Sand Because He Thought They’d Start Nuclear War | USSA News | The Tea Party's Front Page.

Elon Musk secretly told Brain-Dead Biden and Volodymyr Zelenskyy to pound sand and ordered his engineers to turn off his company’s Starlink satellite network near the Crimean coast last year to stop a Ukrainian sneak attack on the Russian naval fleet, according to an excerpt from Walter...

ussanews.com

 

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At least this reporter gets it.

My eyes must be deceiving me. A mainstream reporter from Sky News just took five minutes to destroy Zelensky and the war mongers provoking him. He just exposed his connection to the naz…

radiopatriot.net

Yup.

 

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Chinese volunteers signing up to take part in Russia’s Special Military operation



6:40 AM · Jul 31, 2022







https://twitter.com/PrateekRoutray

 

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NATO says it's prepared to intervene in Kosovo if ‘stability is jeopardized’

NATO issued a statement Sunday saying its Kosovo Force Pristina (KFOR) was prepared to intervene if tensions at the border with Serbia threatened stability.

www.foxnews.com

Kosovo, Bosnia call for NATO membership as war rages in Ukraine​

Kosovo’s president and Bosnia’s defence minister share their concerns about regional security and Moscow-friendly Serbia.





Zaid Ahmd 

@realzaidzayn
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: #Serbia's President reportedly arrives at General Staff Head Quarters amid #Kosovo tensions

 

[MothMan]

Chinese volunteers signing up to take part in Russia’s Special Military operation

6:40 AM · Jul 31, 2022



https://twitter.com/PrateekRoutray

I hate duck sauce on my holopchi!!

 

[MothMan]

'Glimmer of hope' as Ukraine grain ship leaves Odesa port — Reuters

The first ship to carry Ukrainian grain through the Black Sea since Russia invaded Ukraine five months ago left the port of Odesa for Lebanon on Monday under a safe passage deal described as a glimmer of hope in a worsening global food crisis.

stocks.apple.com

 

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Analysis of whats going on in Kosovo.

 

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China building up as well....

Chinese Military Posts Video Boasting Military Might Ahead of Pelosi Trip To Taiwan - Breaking911

The People’s Liberation Army (PLA) Eastern Theater Command on Monday released an 80-second video “to show its readiness for combat and resolve to defend the motherland.” The video was posted amid Speaker Nancy Pelosi‘s expected visit to Taiwan. Facebook Comments

breaking911.com

 

[Mosinitis]

The West always dismissed this as Russian propaganda. It wasn't.

Ukraine Violates War Laws, Endangers Civilians: Amnesty International

Amnesty International has previously accused Russia of war crimes and said that allegations against Ukraine "in no way justify Russia's indiscriminate attacks."

www.newsweek.com