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Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)
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Russia is winning economically and gaining territory. This is Putin's answer to Western anti-Russian policies and measures.
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Donbass republics, Zaporozhye and Kherson Regions kick off vote on joining Russia
The Donbass republics and Russian-held parts of Ukraine are conducting referendums on uniting with Russia
For those who aren't worried consider this;
Russia (Ukraine as well) is suffering horrific losses and is now mobilizing for full war. Russia now openly states they acknowledge they are essentially at war with NATO.
NATO is using the Ukrainians essentially as "temp workers" to fight Russia for NATO using NATO intelligence, support, training and equipment. Russia acknowledges this.
The reason I make this point, at some time in the near future Russia is going to attack NATO assets which are directly being used to kill Russian forces.
Russia (Ukraine as well) is suffering horrific losses and is now mobilizing for full war. Russia now openly states they acknowledge they are essentially at war with NATO.
NATO is using the Ukrainians essentially as "temp workers" to fight Russia for NATO using NATO intelligence, support, training and equipment. Russia acknowledges this.
The reason I make this point, at some time in the near future Russia is going to attack NATO assets which are directly being used to kill Russian forces.
I think it is safe to assume the recent counteroffensive by Ukraine was planned, coordinated or in some way directed by the US. At the very least we are sending satellite reconnaissance Intel to Ukraine that allows them to direct their forces.For those who aren't worried consider this;
Russia (Ukraine as well) is suffering horrific losses and is now mobilizing for full war. Russia now openly states they acknowledge they are essentially at war with NATO.
NATO is using the Ukrainians essentially as "temp workers" to fight Russia for NATO using NATO intelligence, support, training and equipment. Russia acknowledges this.
The reason I make this point, at some time in the near future Russia is going to attack NATO assets which are directly being used to kill Russian forces.
Can't be. I haven't heard about a single coming-out party, or trans-pole-dancing-for-youngin's party in the Ukraine.
As Monty Python would say, always look on the bright side of life.Russia is winning economically and gaining territory. This is Putin's answer to Western anti-Russian policies and measures.
Donbass republics, Zaporozhye and Kherson Regions kick off vote on joining Russia
The Donbass republics and Russian-held parts of Ukraine are conducting referendums on uniting with Russia
I noticed how you didn't mention that russia is winning militarily.
Arjuna
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This is a solid channel, very interesting analysis and predictions for where this goes next.
It's absolutely worth a listen.
Ukraine is not losing as fast as predicted and in every battle, doesn't mean Russia is not winning overall.
I agree you should listen to the speech. One thing that stuck out to me was when Putin claimed leaders in the west openly talking about using nuclear weapons against Russia. I have not seen anyone mention that. All talk about nuclear weapons use that I have seen is along the lines of "will Putin really do it"?
Putin actually says using nuclear weapons is not a bluff. I believe he's serious.
Neither side is winning. The initial Russian invasion failed to produce a quick victory. Their recent battlefield losses have them back their heels, forcing drastic measures like conscription and buying weapons like drones from Iran.
Despite their recent battlefield success I would not say the Ukrainians are winning either. They still face a much larger military with no end in sight. I'm unaware of any diplomatic initiatives to get even a cease fire. This could go on for quite a while. More setbacks by Russian conventional forces almost guarantee we'll see tactical nukes deployed. Not good.
I don't think the west/NATO wants a cease fire. I think they're totally happy to keep this going as long as possible.
Watch the forward observer video I linked to a few posts up. Very interesting speculation
spat
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It is a classic war of attrition at this point.
It will come down to who has the stronger will.
Does Putin want to conquer Ukraine more than the Ukranians do not want to be conquered.
The war will go on until one side gives up. It's not about who wins, it's just a contest to see who loses slowest.
96coal449
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FIFY
Eh. Two guys that know about as much as anyone else speculating. We can all do that.
MothMan
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One thing for sure!, no speculation. Russia’s ally zyma will be here soon. 
They were in military intelligence as analysts and run an intelligence company
This is a great thread on Twitter.
Arjuna
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ArmedCorgi
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Sounds like somebody wants more money.
Another story:
‘Total Chaos’: Russian Mobilization Exodus Accelerates Amid Border Closure Rumors - The Moscow Times
Muscovite Rodion decided to flee to the South Caucasus nation of Georgia to avoid being conscripted into the Russian army a few hours after mobilization was announced last week by President Vladimir Putin. “By the end of that day, I had packed my belongings, given some instructions to my mother...
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It doesn't look like a lot of potential draftees want to fight for the motherland. Wow. I wonder what Putin thinks when he sees this.
MothMan
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Here is what a Dane living in Russia has to say. Sounds more reasonable than every every military age male running for the border. Also the ones being call up are experienced military with specialities, aka inactive reserve. Hang on till past the new roof info.
holdover
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For those who aren't worried consider this;
Russia (Ukraine as well) is suffering horrific losses and is now mobilizing for full war. Russia now openly states they acknowledge they are essentially at war with NATO.
NATO is using the Ukrainians essentially as "temp workers" to fight Russia for NATO using NATO intelligence, support, training and equipment. Russia acknowledges this.
The reason I make this point, at some time in the near future Russia is going to attack NATO assets which are directly being used to kill Russian forces.
The most dangerous part is that once those areas are annexed they become a part of Russia and fall under Russian doctrine Of useing tactical Nukes to defend the homeland . The Russian doctrine states something to the effect of reserving the right to use Nukes only if attacked.
Of course the West wont recognize the annexation as legitimate, and would turn the world against Russia Possibly sending nukes to Ukraine.
Exactly.
That is the point I was making and why it's so critical to understand the next phase.
Russia just did their occupied territory referendum to join the Russian federation. Clearly they're going to get 90% in favor. So, with the stroke of a pen the territory now becomes part of Russia.
When Ukrainian bombs "Russia" now Putin will likely formally declare "war". Then we'll see where things go and how far this escalates. Every action taken seems to incrementally make tactical nuclear strikes more plausible and likely.
There's been absolutely no de-escalation. Everything is all moving in one direction still even though it's largely fallen out of our news cycle.
This guy really doesn't want to get drafted. Starts shooting at the recruitment office.Another story:
‘Total Chaos’: Russian Mobilization Exodus Accelerates Amid Border Closure Rumors - The Moscow Times
Muscovite Rodion decided to flee to the South Caucasus nation of Georgia to avoid being conscripted into the Russian army a few hours after mobilization was announced last week by President Vladimir Putin. “By the end of that day, I had packed my belongings, given some instructions to my mother...
It doesn't look like a lot of potential draftees want to fight for the motherland. Wow. I wonder what Putin thinks when he sees this.
MothMan
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Put this here due to “POSSIBLE” sabotage aspect.
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EU vows to protect energy network after 'sabotage' of Russian gas pipeline — Reuters
The European Union on Wednesday promised a \"robust\" response to any intentional disruption of its energy infrastructure after saying it suspected sabotage was behind gas leaks discovered this week on subsea Russian pipelines to Europe.
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Phazer
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Russia may indeed get their pyrrhic victory.