Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)

[Steal2B]

I have to wonder what putins plan is. I feel like there is piece of the puzzle yet to be revealed or that is missing. (I’m assuming Putin thinks with logic and rational thought and is not stark raving mad)
Putin to me has never come off as a tyrant or a dictator. He has always seemed to me as a mafia type, a crime boss/mob boss ex KGB type. There has to be a benefit in it for him and his mafia. Idk see how invading Ukraine offered him much. Ok sure you invade and then what? You occupy the country and have an endless guerrilla war on your hands? Continually drain your military of equipment and manpower? I’m pretty sure the Russians remember their time in Afghanistan and don’t necessarily want to repeat that. Ok so you invade the country and then just leave? What benefit is that? Thru various means the entire world has turned against Putin and Russia. Cut Russia off economically from the rest of the world? Where is the benefit to doing all this? The cost of doing this has to less than the reward for whatever success the Russians are chasing. I understand the timing of invading now. America and Europe are run by weak leaders, their militaries focused on gender and being woke, fighting covid etc. if you were going to invade Ukraine the timing makes sense. What I’m questioning is the why. It also appears as though Russia has not been necessarily sending their best troops and best equipment, instead sending older equipment and the equivalent of our JROTC and national guard weekend warriors for the most part. Why hold back from using your best in order to have a fast quick victory? Something seems up, like the best hand has yet to be played.

I’m assuming Putin thinks with logic and rational thought and is not stark raving mad

It may not be a safe assumption. This man has abhorrent personality traits and deviant psychopathologies, I'd bet he couldn't clear an MMPI. Imagine FUAC with similar sociopath, temper, and Narcissistic issues but with nuclear launch codes.

 

[GOPerfect]

Y’all so desperate you’re now pretending Russia is fighting nazis even tho ukranian president was born to two Jewish parents

Not pretending at all...

Pointing out relevant information as it is put out.

We do not need to believe something for it to be relevant.

 

[ManualF150]

I have a strong feeling the world will be turning hot here in the next few days.

I don't mean just this situation.

If this is true, COVID will just have been a "preparation" for what's to come.

I am beginning to wonder if the whole mask thing was for people to have or get familiar with masks for possible nukes. If anyone knows about radiation, air itself doesn't get radioactive, it is the dust/debris. Even cloth masks do something for larger debris. Along with "locking down". You'd do the same in a nuke situation.

Let's hope I am wrong and I've just turned more on to a conspiracy theory.

 

[prambo]

This video is interesting in that it is, SUPPOSEDLY, an American living in Kyiv, and doing business in Ukraine.

His ideas have a certain merit, but he never offers any proof that he is actually in Kyiv, like a dated newspaper or a look out the window.

Regardless, his ideas make sense on some level, at least for Putin.

Or, it could be more mis-, dis- and malinformation ( CISA)...enjoy!!

 

[Phazer]

True and very possible, but then you run the risk of have too much of your military in another country while potentially causing the rest of the world to unite and try to take you out.

It takes very little for a modern military to destroy buildings one by one. They could use tanks, or mobile artillery, or laser/gps-guided plane-launched bombs. If they're unopposed by serious defenses, the offensive force does not need to be very large.

As an endgame, the Russians could easily destroy Ukrainian cities with conventional weapons (ex/ large thermobaric bombs) and not lose any more Russian troops.

The Russians could call for unconditional Ukrainian surrender and then destroy a city the day after each call for surrender is ignored or rebuffed. This might accomplish nothing more than solidify Russia as the world's largest pariah nation. But, who knows what the hell Putin is thinking nowadays.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Man, opinion and narrative overload going on. This is kind of like predicting the weather forecast. Everyone can be all over the place and few will be right. You are able though to say what occurred after the storm and compare notes to see why you were so off. On one hand it seems I should be informed while on the other hand I don't want to get my information from most of those informing me. What to do, what to do.

 

[ManualF150]

Man, opinion and narrative overload going on. This is kind of like predicting the weather forecast. Everyone can be all over the place and few will be right. You are able thought to say what occurred after the storm and compare notes to see why you were so off. On one hand it seems I should be informed while on the other hand I don't want to get my information from most of those informing me. What to do, what to do.

That's the way I feel. I just keep prepping. I hop on here and some other places for an hour or so, take in what I want, then I go about my life. I don't dwell on it and have it take over my life.

When I see a bright flash or hear helicopters/drones/planes, loss of electricity/Internet, then it will arouse my attention slightly more.

The fuel prices, food issues, supply chain problems. Eh, we've all been dealing with that already.

 

[prambo]

That's the way I feel. I just keep prepping. I hop on here and some other places for an hour or so, take in what I want, then I go about my life. I don't dwell on it and have it take over my life.

When I see a bright flash or hear helicopters/drones/planes, loss of electricity/Internet, then it will arouse my attention slightly more.

The fuel prices, food issues, supply chain problems. Eh, we've all been dealing with that already.

To me it appears that "The Great Unravelling" is just around the corner...but how far around is the question.

Anything can act as a "Black Swan Event", regardless of how minor, it just depends on what the ripples from that event do and where they go.

 

[That_FNG]

Man, opinion and narrative overload going on. This is kind of like predicting the weather forecast. Everyone can be all over the place and few will be right. You are able though to say what occurred after the storm and compare notes to see why you were so off. On one hand it seems I should be informed while on the other hand I don't want to get my information from most of those informing me. What to do, what to do.

Oh that’s easy. Buy ammo, buy guns. Same response as always.

 

[Jsmegs77]

I’m still gonna stay neutral on this one. I would very much prefer our foreign policy be to minimize or eliminate our dependence on critical infrastructure imports (eg. oil), pull our people out of the warring countries, and unequivocally state that you can burn down your own house, but the second you head toward ours we will run you over and back up for a second go.

I have a strong feeling the world will be turning hot here in the next few days.

I don't mean just this situation.

If this is true, COVID will just have been a "preparation" for what's to come.

I am beginning to wonder if the whole mask thing was for people to have or get familiar with masks for possible nukes. If anyone knows about radiation, air itself doesn't get radioactive, it is the dust/debris. Even cloth masks do something for larger debris. Along with "locking down". You'd do the same in a nuke situation.

Let's hope I am wrong and I've just turned more on to a conspiracy theory.

No KN95 is going to protect you from the dust to that level. Go wear one and sweep a stone cutting floor, or demo sheet rock. You’ll be tasting it for hours.

 

[Mosinitis]

Update:

Ukrainian delegation is on its way to Gomel (Belarus) to conduct talks with Russian delegation.

Israel's prime minister spoke to Putin and offered to mediate the dispute if asked.

 

[dsdmmat]

Update:

Ukrainian delegation is on its way to Gomel (Belarus) to conduct talks with Russian delegation.

Israel's prime minister spoke to Putin and offered to mediate the dispute if asked.

Well if true it will be a good day on the stock market tomorrow.

 

[Mosinitis]

Russian media is reporting that Putin's decision to activate nuclear readiness came after threatening rhetoric by British Foreign Minister Liz Truss.

 

[Phazer]

From a more basic practical standpoint, the Russians simply need to interdict supply transportation within Ukraine. With power off, people in Ukrainian cities will be cold and hungry. They will eventually risk starvation.

Starving people have only one problem: Obtaining food.

Starving people will surrender.

 

[dsdmmat]

From a more basic practical standpoint, the Russians simply need to interdict supply transportation within Ukraine. With power off, people in Ukrainian cities will be cold and hungry. They will eventually risk starvation.

Starving people have only one problem: Obtaining food.

Starving people will surrender.

Or it will widen the conflict.

 

[Mosinitis]

Well if true it will be a good day on the stock market tomorrow.

It's true, the big question will the Ukrainian delegation show up or are they just buying time.

 

[dsdmmat]

It's true, the big question will the Ukrainian delegation show up or are they just buying time.

Either way the stock market will go up based on the rumor.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

 

[Dr. Evil]

It's quite sad that so many in this country are aghast at the situation of war in the Ukraine while there has been a war against the US (not by guns, tanks, helicopters, etc.) since Trump was elected, by the left and the RINO'S, that has been on turbo drive since the Brandon administration was installed.

 

[BerettaGuy]

What do LIberals and Putin have in common? If you disagree with either you are called a Nazi by both.

Im hearing it is within Russian doctrine to use Tactical Nukes.

 

[Steal2B]

I am beginning to wonder if the whole mask thing was for people to have or get familiar with masks for possible nukes. If anyone knows about radiation, air itself doesn't get radioactive, it is the dust/debris. Even cloth masks do something for larger debris. Along with "locking down". You'd do the same in a nuke situation.

I won't take on the role as this thread's Health Physicist but particulate masks and half face respirators are essentially useless with low protection factors. Even a properly fit full face respirator may need charcoal canisters because the air could in fact be radioactive with Iodine 131 gas. Respirators can reduce exposure from airborne particulate contamination but do nothing for radioactive gases, provide no shielding for radiation (e.g. gamma waves), and does not help with whole body or external exposure from radioactive contaminates, some of which may be high energy emitters.

 

[holdover]

We have armed neo-nazis units fighting on our territory? Where?

He's right, I think there's about 6 of them

 

[Celt]

"His"? You know something we don't?
She is Anglo-Saxon and her double standards rhetoric is based on deep hatred of the Russians.

Didnt read the article, just making an observation of your bias when calling out others for bias.

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

 

[Steal2B]

What do LIberals and Putin have in common? If you disagree with either you are called a Nazi by both.

Im hearing it is within Russian doctrine to use Tactical Nukes.

Condoleezza Rice: Putin ‘seems erratic,’ ‘descending into something’ never personally seen before

Former Secretary of State Condoleezza said Russian President Vladmir Putin appears “erratic." She believes he was always calculating and cold but that this time seems different.

www.foxnews.com

 

[kev74]

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Condoleezza Rice: Putin ‘seems erratic,’ ‘descending into something’ never personally seen before

Former Secretary of State Condoleezza said Russian President Vladmir Putin appears “erratic." She believes he was always calculating and cold but that this time seems different.

www.foxnews.com

Which means ... Putin is acting perfectly rational and we have nothing to worry about.

 

[kev74]

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

 

[Mosinitis]

Didnt read the article, just making an observation of your bias when calling out others for bias.

I threw one punch at your heritage against millions thrown at mine.

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]