Steal2B
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Sure but certainly with thicker strings, more strings, and a single more intrusive puppet master.
Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)
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spat
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Im China the only difference between corporate and military is the uniform.
They share a chain of command and all intelligence assets.
This is my philosophy: don’t start something with anyone you don’t intend to kill. The reason being, you don’t get a vote in how they will react and you may have to kill them to save yourself. This philosophy extends to families and countries. If you kill someone you might as well kill their entire family so you don’t have to forevermore look over your shoulder for the Karma Bus. If you are going to attack a country you might as well kill off the entire population because there will never be peace in that region for you or your progeny. If you attack them you have to kill them all so they don’t have the chance to retaliate and kill all of you In your own home/ homeland.
spat
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As close as the people living in the neighboring sovereign nations want it to be.
If Canada joined an alliance with Putin, would that give us the right to invade them ?
Almost happened in Cuba
Everyone still thinks the reasons started in the press are the reasons for this war. They are not.
spat
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Cuba was already a soviet satellite. We were OK with that.
It was the nuclear missiles that were the last straw.
True but, because they put offensive weapons 90 miles off our shore we determined we had the right to invade. Hence the bay of pigs disaster, then the blockade (act of war). Russia felt the same way about the NATO alliance being able to put offensive weapons in Ukraine. Now there are Russian tanks rolling through Ukraine. Is it justified? In their mind it is.
My mind as well.
spat
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Honestly, I don't think even arguing about what is justified or not is productive.
I still don't think their actions are justified, but in the real world it doesn't matter. All that matters is that they did, and will we do anything about it.
Ghengis Kahn believed he was justified in killing everyone in a city if they didn't surrender fast enough. It doesn't actually matter if that was true or not, because you were just as dead either way.
The rest of the world doesn't believe this was justified, so the Russian economy is now in ruins.
It is all semantics for those who are lucky enough to live through it. Those with the biggest stick and the will to use it win and write history, everyone else is dead or doesn’t matter.
spat
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We have the stick.
We lack the will.
And what's worse, is that under this administration, everyone *knows* we lack the will.
Yep and you and I know we won’t be writing history Anytime soon.
pjzwtl
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No All the POS US politicians would loose their cash cow. No more 10% for the big guy
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The American people lack the will.
spat
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I'm not sure the America people have a will of their own anymore.
They just have whatever their TV tells them to have.
If the people programming them wanted to, I'm convinced they could fabricate the will to invade Canada in 6 months.
Absolutely. More concerned with trans, gay, masks, and football.
Amazing how many are willingly enslaved.
Blimey
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We are not Russia, and had different motivations.
No US president said, regarding any of those nations, that he regretted how they detached from America.
Straight from the russian government:
"Above all, we should acknowledge that the collapse of the Soviet Union was a major geopolitical disaster of the century. As for the Russian nation, it became a genuine drama. Tens of millions of our co-citizens and co-patriots found themselves outside Russian territory. Moreover, the epidemic of disintegration infected Russia itself."
Blimey
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@Mosinitis you'll like this one: Ukraine war: Nine-year-old girl loses arm after being shot by Russians
Phazer
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Well, we do have to oppose totalitarian socialism wherever we find it. And...we could use some more oil right now.
@Blimey war sucks. No sugar coating it.
Bad things happen to good people caught in it.
I want no part of Americans in this war.
Bad things happen to good people caught in it.
I want no part of Americans in this war.
Is there a link to when/where he said that?
This is the second time I've heard reference to his supposed desire to recreate the Soviet Union.
Along with his desire to "leave a legacy".
Phazer
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Fox News cameraman Pierre Zakrzewski, fixer Oleksandra Kuvshynova killed in Ukraine
Zakrzewski was with Fox correspondent Benjamin Hall when their vehicle came under fire in Horenka, a northwest suburb of Kyiv.
nypost.com
holdover
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This sounds EXACTLY like what I would expect to hear.
Ukraine is desperate. They are losing. These are the actions of a desperate government.
When you can't make intellectually sound argument post a stupid meme. Putin is serving his country, unlike wealthy elites in this country who start wars and destabilize countries to profit.
There are numerous reports of Ukrainian Nationalists shooting at cars that are trying to escape, especially those with men who are expected to stay and fight. You know this wasn't the case?
pjzwtl
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spat
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If we'd gotten involved when Russia invaded Georgia, we wouldn't be here now.
If we don't get involved now, we are eventually going to have to, and it will be much worse.
How far do we let him go ? He's not going to stop until someone makes him stop.
You want to wait until he invades Canada or something ?
It's like people don't even know what the run up to WWII looked like. You swap some names and you could just reuse the headlines from the 1930's.