Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)
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libertysnake
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What if NATO is setting a trap in which the Ukrainians were prepared, waiting, and will do massive damage to the Russians militarily as a result of baiting the Russians into this -- as a method of forcing the Russians into having less leverage with NATO? Just a thought.
BerettaGuy
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The US media "people" live mainly where?
Are they more interested in digging out a story or copying and pasting Twitter?
Do they know that if they tweet the wrong thing they will be shunned at the after-work cocktail party?
Answers: NY City - Copy and Paste - Absolutely!
They all live work and play in one immense "echo chamber" and have no clue what the Average American thinks wants or needs. This is why I will seek out YouTube videos from people on the ground that have no interest in being famous or pleasing their homosexual bosses.
The bottom line, Putin has invaded a neighbor. Blood has been spilled. Life-long hatred is now created creating the need for vengeance. More blood.
Nature abhors a vacuum. These elitists feared Donald Trump so much they took down the whole world to prevent his reelection and put in a weak and disorientated dementia patient. What could possibly go wrong?
BerettaGuy
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Remember the Russian Doctrine! One Nuke to force negotiation.
holdover
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Not sure what your trying to say Laura Logan has been fired from CNN for speaking out against the establishment. She helped to blow the whistle on the covid fraud. She's on Fox but mostly independent now.
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That's a funny one. You mean like Putin helped Trump steal the 2016 election? Or was it the dozens of Intel officers that said the laptop was Russian disinfo? Lol Biden and his cronies had crooked dealings there. That is on record.
Steal2B
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Not sure who disagrees with you.
You mean like Putin helped Trump steal the 2016 election?
Putin had financial ties to Clinton and supporting Trump would jeopardize an already lucrative association.
Or was it the dozens of Intel officers that said the laptop was Russian disinfo?
The Putin propaganda I discussed is inferences he is a good guy and is invading Ukraine to clean up the world while all information of multiple strikes on soft Ukranian civilian targets is fake news.
I think you may have misinterpreted the post by 180 degrees.
It's more like how a guy like Putin gets a net worth of 300 billion US dollars on a $140,000 annual salary. Hell his first mistress is worth north of a billion and his current ex-olympic squeeze is now worth $100,000,000. He is dirty himself and all arguments he has an altruistic bone in his body for striking Ukraine is just silly.
It's about money, power, and ego as Putin's primary motivators.
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Wow. Another self absorbed celebrity thinking his video is somehow going to change the world. Just how big does your ego need to be to put something like this out? Go back to schtupping the maid and spare us your deep thoughts.
Catskillkid
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I would believe that over the other interpretation. Maybe this was all a setup to topple the Russian bear once and for all.
libertysnake
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Or a setup to take back the Russian areas like Crimea. What better way than to have the Ukrainians themselves take it back when Russia fucks up and fails to invade, and on the way out they lose Crimea and the rest of their areas?
spat
.950 JDJ
Biden isn't smart enough to pull a rope-a-dope on Putin.
But his handlers are.
Russia and America are the only major obstacles to the globalists. China has the US leadership bought and paid for.
We know they slipped false intelligence to Putin about Ukraine joining NATO.
I'm not in any way defending Putin's actions, just saying he might have played right into the real bad guys hand.
Celt
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1. He wasnt a push over, or suffering from dimentia and Putin would be more weary under someone like Trump.
2. Putin knows the Bidens are corrupt and there is alot of dirt on them to leverage against them to stay out of it.
3. Im no political expert and certainly not on world pokitics, but sanctions that would be meaningful, or perhaps just better negotiation tactics on Trumps part to settle down Ukraine and to calm Putin.
Trump is a master negotiator, Im confident he would have handled this without it turning into a war.
Our country looks foolish, weak and broken in the eyes of the world. What better time for other countries to strike then when we are weak.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
I dunno, sometimes my tinfoil gets a little tight. Sometimes I think this is one big dog and pony show. The main objective , to collaspe the global economy and start a new government .The great reset. Only this time, the dollar wont be the reserve currency, and we are going to have nothing and love it. We are going to be a second rate nation if we lose the reserve status. The country will be forced to stay on budget
Celt
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We know the globalists (who own the leftists and even many on the so called right) want the great reset. There is no doubt about that. But, if Chyna has their way their currency will be what the world goes by (as you stated it wont be the dollar). Trump was putting a stop (or at least a speed bump) on the road to that terrible place.
Dr. Evil
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Dr. Evil
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The Russian military, checking the building of the Kherson nightclub, discovered a cell of nationalists. The tattooed men and their assistants assured that they were volunteers helping the Red Cross. However, they do not have any documents. As arguments, they wanted to provide a bunch of diapers for the kids, but there wasn’t one either.
But the military found a machine gun, grenades, rubber batons, a baseball bat, helmets and Ukrainian flags in the club building. One of the "volunteers" explained the presence of weapons simply: "I found it."
Dr. Evil
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Proof that steroids lead to brain damage.
Dr. Evil
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Basically Marjorie was the only person to not clap while Zelensky urged the congress to start WW3.
She made a statement today pointing out that Biden and other politicians sons have their greedy hands in Ukraine and called for us not to help because they cannot win.
Dr. Evil
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Got this email from PayPal. Isn't that nice of them:
Ukrainians are experiencing a grave humanitarian crisis. The need for relief is urgent and expanding. Relief and recovery efforts for those remaining and refugees fleeing are vital. Support a participating charity by donating to PayPal Giving Fund and 100% of your donation will go to charity with no deductions or fees*.
I wonder what year that picture is from. Will a government step in and freeze PayPal's account as well as my bank account for this like the convoy?
Ukrainians are experiencing a grave humanitarian crisis. The need for relief is urgent and expanding. Relief and recovery efforts for those remaining and refugees fleeing are vital. Support a participating charity by donating to PayPal Giving Fund and 100% of your donation will go to charity with no deductions or fees*.
I wonder what year that picture is from. Will a government step in and freeze PayPal's account as well as my bank account for this like the convoy?
Acer-m14
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i'm still waiting for all the bloody photos and vids to show up ... all the talk of people getting shot and bleeding ..
i haven't seen one video / photo .. .. i may go watch a john wick movie now .. at least that's not censored ...
i haven't seen one video / photo .. .. i may go watch a john wick movie now .. at least that's not censored ...
Dr. Evil
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Dr. Evil
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"The sides have dug in, narratives established, and no one will budge. Russia is diplomatically and verbally accusing the US of creating biological weapons; the US claim the Russians are lying, fabricating evidence, and plan to use the biological facilities to create bioweapons themselves.
So now the fate of humanity and billions of lives, rest in the hands of the 2 nuclear superpowers playing the blame-game, like children.
Given what we have seen, there are two options:
1. Putin is a warmongering psychopath, who is pushing propaganda about biological weapons in Ukraine. This is all a cover up for Putin to take power of small sections of Ukraine, weaponize the completely innocent US biological research facilities (which the media claims didn’t exist) into bioweapons facilities and unleash all these pathogens on his path to global domination.
2. There are/were US DoD funded biolabs in Ukraine. The US were weaponizing pathogens near Russia’s border and now they are pushing propaganda to cover their asses before they get caught for creating bioweapons, for which the penalty is death. Immediately after they just got caught making the bioweapon known as C19.
There is a plethora of evidence to support the 2nd option, and very little to support the 1st. And when you compound the evidence with the lengths the US media complex went to cover up this evidence, and censor those who speak of it, it makes the answer that much more clear.
If Putin wanted to kill civilians, he would have dropped carpet bombs on Kyiv and killed civilians at will, the assault would still be ongoing. But instead, he used calculated air strikes, surrounded Kyiv instead of slaughtering everyone, brought forces to all nuclear and biological locations, stopped the assault, and suddenly initiated peace talks after his targets were secured.
If the US really weren’t creating biological weapons in Ukraine, they would have no issues allowing for investigations in order to prevent world war. They would not be using the media complex to cover up all of their records of biolab activity and censoring people like me for talking about it. And if the US MIL actually believed Putin would be using these facilities to release biological weapons, our military would be heavily involved as a direct threat to NATSEC.
The truth is painfully apparent. None of what the American media/politicians claim, makes any sense whatsoever. Unfortunately, many of the American people are so brainwashed by the propaganda being fed to them, they cannot see it. Many others see it, but simply refuse to acknowledge it, because to them, believing a comfortable lie, is much more convenient than confronting an uncomfortable truth.
Very few are willing to speak the truth. And in times of universal deceit, telling the Truth is a revolutionary act."
So now the fate of humanity and billions of lives, rest in the hands of the 2 nuclear superpowers playing the blame-game, like children.
Given what we have seen, there are two options:
1. Putin is a warmongering psychopath, who is pushing propaganda about biological weapons in Ukraine. This is all a cover up for Putin to take power of small sections of Ukraine, weaponize the completely innocent US biological research facilities (which the media claims didn’t exist) into bioweapons facilities and unleash all these pathogens on his path to global domination.
2. There are/were US DoD funded biolabs in Ukraine. The US were weaponizing pathogens near Russia’s border and now they are pushing propaganda to cover their asses before they get caught for creating bioweapons, for which the penalty is death. Immediately after they just got caught making the bioweapon known as C19.
There is a plethora of evidence to support the 2nd option, and very little to support the 1st. And when you compound the evidence with the lengths the US media complex went to cover up this evidence, and censor those who speak of it, it makes the answer that much more clear.
If Putin wanted to kill civilians, he would have dropped carpet bombs on Kyiv and killed civilians at will, the assault would still be ongoing. But instead, he used calculated air strikes, surrounded Kyiv instead of slaughtering everyone, brought forces to all nuclear and biological locations, stopped the assault, and suddenly initiated peace talks after his targets were secured.
If the US really weren’t creating biological weapons in Ukraine, they would have no issues allowing for investigations in order to prevent world war. They would not be using the media complex to cover up all of their records of biolab activity and censoring people like me for talking about it. And if the US MIL actually believed Putin would be using these facilities to release biological weapons, our military would be heavily involved as a direct threat to NATSEC.
The truth is painfully apparent. None of what the American media/politicians claim, makes any sense whatsoever. Unfortunately, many of the American people are so brainwashed by the propaganda being fed to them, they cannot see it. Many others see it, but simply refuse to acknowledge it, because to them, believing a comfortable lie, is much more convenient than confronting an uncomfortable truth.
Very few are willing to speak the truth. And in times of universal deceit, telling the Truth is a revolutionary act."
Dr. Evil
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George Soros: United States, European Union Must Remove Putin And Xi From Power ‘Before They Can Destroy Our Civilization’ * The Gateway Pundit * by Alicia Powe
A third world war will “destroy our civilization” unless Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping are “removed from power” warns billio…
www.thegatewaypundit.com
So Soros wants to rid the world of Putin, Xi and Trump. Got it.
kev74
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I support anything Soros is against.George Soros: United States, European Union Must Remove Putin And Xi From Power ‘Before They Can Destroy Our Civilization’ * The Gateway Pundit * by Alicia Powe
A third world war will “destroy our civilization” unless Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping are “removed from power” warns billio…
So Soros wants to rid the world of Putin, Xi and Trump. Got it.
Dr. Evil
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"For those wondering why I’ll believe Putin before I believe the globalist puppets in the US, let’s look at the timeline:
2016: Trump wins:
-The US gov/media lies about Trump conspiring with Putin to hack the election, pushing anti-trump propaganda 24/7 all throughout his presidency.
2020: C19 “escapes”:
-The US gov/media censors all dissent about C19 on all platforms, lies about the origin, lies about natural occurrence, lies about the NIH creating it, inflates and manipulates case, hospitalization and death counts, implements a medical police state and marital law, fires 50 million people overnight.
2021: “Vaccines” are created:
-US gov/media suppresses/censors any viable treatments for C19 (Ivermectin, HCQ, monoclonal antibodies) to maintain Emergency Use Authorization, lies about efficacy and safety of vaccines, denies reality of herd immunity, denies that the “vaccines” don’t prevent transmission or disease.
2021: Russia accuses US of creating biological weapons near their border: -US gov/media refuse to address these allegations and suppress this news from Western media outlets. Lies via omission.
2022: Russia uses calculated missile strikes to destroy US/NATO military assets and secure US DoD funded biolabs in Ukraine:
-US gov/media push fake Ukrainian war propaganda, fabricate stories, use false video, photos from other wars, accuse Putin of blindly killing civilians without evidence, largely misrepresenting the actual situation in Ukraine, pushing mass disinformation.
CURRENT: Russia accuses US of creating bioweapons AGAIN, after invoking an emergency meeting of UN Security Council:
-US gov/media claims the Russians are pushing disinformation, right after they tried to scrub their records on US DoD funding of biolabs in Ukraine, then admit they are concerned Russia will use the biological weapons they claimed they didn’t make at the biolabs they claimed didn’t exist. All while censoring any speak of these biolabs.
Years of nonstop, crippling propaganda and lies, yet we are expected to trust the US gov/media now? Sorry, I’ll go with the evidence before I go with blind National pride. If you trust a single thing that comes from the TV after what you have seen over the past 6 years, you didn’t learn the lesson.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
2016: Trump wins:
-The US gov/media lies about Trump conspiring with Putin to hack the election, pushing anti-trump propaganda 24/7 all throughout his presidency.
2020: C19 “escapes”:
-The US gov/media censors all dissent about C19 on all platforms, lies about the origin, lies about natural occurrence, lies about the NIH creating it, inflates and manipulates case, hospitalization and death counts, implements a medical police state and marital law, fires 50 million people overnight.
2021: “Vaccines” are created:
-US gov/media suppresses/censors any viable treatments for C19 (Ivermectin, HCQ, monoclonal antibodies) to maintain Emergency Use Authorization, lies about efficacy and safety of vaccines, denies reality of herd immunity, denies that the “vaccines” don’t prevent transmission or disease.
2021: Russia accuses US of creating biological weapons near their border: -US gov/media refuse to address these allegations and suppress this news from Western media outlets. Lies via omission.
2022: Russia uses calculated missile strikes to destroy US/NATO military assets and secure US DoD funded biolabs in Ukraine:
-US gov/media push fake Ukrainian war propaganda, fabricate stories, use false video, photos from other wars, accuse Putin of blindly killing civilians without evidence, largely misrepresenting the actual situation in Ukraine, pushing mass disinformation.
CURRENT: Russia accuses US of creating bioweapons AGAIN, after invoking an emergency meeting of UN Security Council:
-US gov/media claims the Russians are pushing disinformation, right after they tried to scrub their records on US DoD funding of biolabs in Ukraine, then admit they are concerned Russia will use the biological weapons they claimed they didn’t make at the biolabs they claimed didn’t exist. All while censoring any speak of these biolabs.
Years of nonstop, crippling propaganda and lies, yet we are expected to trust the US gov/media now? Sorry, I’ll go with the evidence before I go with blind National pride. If you trust a single thing that comes from the TV after what you have seen over the past 6 years, you didn’t learn the lesson.
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”