Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)

[livingston]

Madness, Joe Biden Asks Congress for $33 Billion More for Ukraine to Fund Their Government Salaries, Pensions and Budget Obligations​

This is getting seriously out of hand. On top of the $14 billion already appropriated for Ukraine assistance, Joe Biden is now asking for a supplemental budget allocation of an additional $33 billion for Ukraine. Good grief, that’s almost $50 billion in aid, plus the billions in distributed weapons.

Biden is asking for U.S. taxpayers to fund the budget, salaries and pension obligations of the Ukraine government. Biden made his request in a letter [SEE HERE] to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi:

Letter to the Speaker of the House of Representatives on Fiscal Year 2022 Emergency Supplemental Funding | The White House

Dear Madam Speaker: I am writing to provide you with my request for fiscal year (FY) 2022 emergency supplemental funding for critical security and

www.whitehouse.gov

Madness, Joe Biden Asks Congress for $33 Billion More for Ukraine to Fund Their Government Salaries, Pensions and Budget Obligations - The Last Refuge

This is getting seriously out of hand. On top of the $14 billion already appropriated for Ukraine assistance, Joe Biden is now asking for a supplemental budget allocation of an additional $33 billion for Ukraine. Good grief, that’s almost $50 billion in aid, plus the billions in distributed...

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[livingston]

Biden's Mammoth $33BN Ukraine Package Includes Help With Wartime Propaganda​

Politico's Christopher Miller noted earlier that the record-smashing $33 billion spending package that the White House is proposing for Ukraine actually "dwarfs the annual defense budgets of most nations." To which we naturally asked: how many billions of dollars does it take to turn a 'proxy' war into a 'direct conflict'?

For starters it's clear that such a massive amount of taxpayer money means that Washington clearly doesn't expect that the war will end anytime soon, as multiple US defense and intelligence officials have recently testified. In fact General Mark Milley, the chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the House Armed Services Committee during the first week of this month that he sees this as a "very protracted conflict" to come that will be "at least measured in years."

Biden in his Thursday rollout remarks described that the new aid package "begins the transition to longer-term security assistance." But interestingly as part of this assistance, a key area that the US will fund is what's essentially information warfare...

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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[prambo]

Madness, Joe Biden Asks Congress for $33 Billion More for Ukraine to Fund Their Government Salaries, Pensions and Budget Obligations​

This is getting seriously out of hand. On top of the $14 billion already appropriated for Ukraine assistance, Joe Biden is now asking for a supplemental budget allocation of an additional $33 billion for Ukraine. Good grief, that’s almost $50 billion in aid, plus the billions in distributed weapons.

Biden is asking for U.S. taxpayers to fund the budget, salaries and pension obligations of the Ukraine government. Biden made his request in a letter [SEE HERE] to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi:

Letter to the Speaker of the House of Representatives on Fiscal Year 2022 Emergency Supplemental Funding | The White House

Dear Madam Speaker: I am writing to provide you with my request for fiscal year (FY) 2022 emergency supplemental funding for critical security and

www.whitehouse.gov

Madness, Joe Biden Asks Congress for $33 Billion More for Ukraine to Fund Their Government Salaries, Pensions and Budget Obligations - The Last Refuge

This is getting seriously out of hand. On top of the $14 billion already appropriated for Ukraine assistance, Joe Biden is now asking for a supplemental budget allocation of an additional $33 billion for Ukraine. Good grief, that’s almost $50 billion in aid, plus the billions in distributed...

theconservativetreehouse.com

Biden's Mammoth $33BN Ukraine Package Includes Help With Wartime Propaganda​

Politico's Christopher Miller noted earlier that the record-smashing $33 billion spending package that the White House is proposing for Ukraine actually "dwarfs the annual defense budgets of most nations." To which we naturally asked: how many billions of dollars does it take to turn a 'proxy' war into a 'direct conflict'?

For starters it's clear that such a massive amount of taxpayer money means that Washington clearly doesn't expect that the war will end anytime soon, as multiple US defense and intelligence officials have recently testified. In fact General Mark Milley, the chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the House Armed Services Committee during the first week of this month that he sees this as a "very protracted conflict" to come that will be "at least measured in years."

Biden in his Thursday rollout remarks described that the new aid package "begins the transition to longer-term security assistance." But interestingly as part of this assistance, a key area that the US will fund is what's essentially information warfare...

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Totally insane - and most of the fUSA (AKA "The Nation of Retards") will just eat it up.

I'm now seeing some homes and cars in The 'Hood sporting Ukrainian flags - guess it's the new "shiny object" for 'Tard Nation.

There are very few Ukrainians up here - mostly French Canuck and Irish.

Have to find out if Stefanik (our "bipartisan" Repub Congress Critter) is voting for this bullshit.

If she does, she'll lose 2 votes in November...as if that "election" isn't already rigged 27 ways from Sunday.

This country had only one thing to do - and it's not doing it.

Instead...

 

[Defilade]

Biden's Mammoth $33BN Ukraine Package Includes Help With Wartime Propaganda​

Politico's Christopher Miller noted earlier that the record-smashing $33 billion spending package that the White House is proposing for Ukraine actually "dwarfs the annual defense budgets of most nations." To which we naturally asked: how many billions of dollars does it take to turn a 'proxy' war into a 'direct conflict'?

For starters it's clear that such a massive amount of taxpayer money means that Washington clearly doesn't expect that the war will end anytime soon, as multiple US defense and intelligence officials have recently testified. In fact General Mark Milley, the chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the House Armed Services Committee during the first week of this month that he sees this as a "very protracted conflict" to come that will be "at least measured in years."

Biden in his Thursday rollout remarks described that the new aid package "begins the transition to longer-term security assistance." But interestingly as part of this assistance, a key area that the US will fund is what's essentially information warfare...

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

We have NO business doing this. Stealing our money again!!

 

[livingston]

Sep 1, 2021 — The war in Afghanistan has cost $2.3 trillion so far, according to Wednesday's release from Brown University's Costs of War Project.
..
That does not include the massive airlift the Biden administration conducted to evacuate 123,000 people from Afghanistan before the final U.S. military forces left on Monday.

'War rarely goes as planned': New report tallies trillions US spent in Afghanistan, Iraq

The U.S. government has become less transparent over time about the costs of post -9/11 conflicts as officials stopped reporting or classified information.

www.usatoday.com

And they folded like a cheap suitcase.... So will Ukraine

 

[Cavalry]

Biden's Mammoth $33BN Ukraine Package Includes Help With Wartime Propaganda​

Politico's Christopher Miller noted earlier that the record-smashing $33 billion spending package that the White House is proposing for Ukraine actually "dwarfs the annual defense budgets of most nations." To which we naturally asked: how many billions of dollars does it take to turn a 'proxy' war into a 'direct conflict'?

For starters it's clear that such a massive amount of taxpayer money means that Washington clearly doesn't expect that the war will end anytime soon, as multiple US defense and intelligence officials have recently testified. In fact General Mark Milley, the chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the House Armed Services Committee during the first week of this month that he sees this as a "very protracted conflict" to come that will be "at least measured in years."

Biden in his Thursday rollout remarks described that the new aid package "begins the transition to longer-term security assistance." But interestingly as part of this assistance, a key area that the US will fund is what's essentially information warfare...

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

The GDP of all of Ukraine is only 150ish billion. This is pure insanity.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

It's not going to weapons, its all being laundered right out in the open thanks to this war.

 

[Acer-m14]

50 bill sent .. 10% cut paid back .. better keep a eye on old Joes and hunters bank accounts .. pretty sure they will see spike ..

 

[prambo]

The government of the fUSA is now nothing but an organized crime syndicate.

Probably has been for decades.

 

[Acer-m14]

The government of the fUSA is now nothing but an organized crime syndicate.

has been for decades.

 

[livingston]

White House Refuses to Define Success in Ukraine, But Want U.S. Taxpayers to Donate $33 Billion More Toward it​

Psaki stated the Biden demand for more money “is not all for Ukraine, it’s also for some of our Eastern European partners and others to help support them during this time as well.” Wait, now we are paying to subsidize the economy of EU countries while our own economy is contracting?

Seriously, the scale of this hubris is blood boiling. First, they cannot tell us what success consists of, but give us money anyway. The first segment to watch happens at 18:15 of the video, WATCH (prompted):

White House Refuses to Define Success in Ukraine, But Want U.S. Taxpayers to Donate $33 Billion More Toward it - The Last Refuge

Yes, this actually happened today. During her press briefing Press Secretary Jen Psaki said the White House doesn’t want to “define what success in Ukraine looks like,” but demands U.S. taxpayers to give them another $33 billion toward it. A few moments later Psaki admits the money will be...

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[livingston]

At 42:15 of the video, Psaki is asked directly why should the U.S. taxpayer be stuck paying for the pensions of Ukraine politicians? Psaki responds by saying ‘that’s who we are.” WATCH (prompted)

Q — to follow up on the issue of, you know, Americans being concerned about the amount of money being sent out to Ukraine: One of the things that the President outlined today in his speech was not just humanitarian assistance, but also allow pensions and social support to be paid to the Ukrainian people.

So, what would you say to the American public who says, “Okay, it’s one thing to help Ukrainian refugees with food and shelter, but why should we be paying for their pensions?”

MS. PSAKI: Well, look, I would say that we have provided a range of economic assistance, because we know that their economy has been devastated — not of their doing, because they were invaded by a foreign country.

White House Refuses to Define Success in Ukraine, But Want U.S. Taxpayers to Donate $33 Billion More Toward it - The Last Refuge

Yes, this actually happened today. During her press briefing Press Secretary Jen Psaki said the White House doesn’t want to “define what success in Ukraine looks like,” but demands U.S. taxpayers to give them another $33 billion toward it. A few moments later Psaki admits the money will be...

theconservativetreehouse.com

 

[livingston]

The Fate Of The World Order Is Being Decided In Ukraine​

Recently, the Italian journal Il Tempo asked Alexander Dugin a series of questions, in which he places the conflict in the Ukraine within the context of the greater struggle against globalism. We are grateful to Geopolitica for this opportunity to bring you the English version of this important discussion.

1. Let’s start at the beginning. When and why did the conflict in Ukraine begin?
The territory of the Ukrainian SSR consisted of different territories and different ethnic groups mixed between Velikorussians and Little Russians.
The West has sought to create an artificial Ukrainian nation since the 19th century. Geopolitician Mackinder was the Entente High Commissioner to the Whites and created a plan to build Ukraine independent from Russia as the main link in the cordon sanitaire between Russia and continental Europe. The Bolsheviks did not allow this to happen and incorporated the Great Russian and Little Russian territories of Western Russia into the USSR.

The new generation of Western geopoliticians—Brzezinski, etc.—again bet on the separation of Ukraine from Russia. After the collapse of the USSR, all of the territories of the Ukrainian SSR, along with Crimea, became part of Ukraine. But within the territory of Ukraine there were two peoples—one pro-European, the other pro-Russian. It was a frontier between two civilizations—Russian-Eurasian and Western. The West relied on only one, the pro-European one, and in order to accelerate the creation of a nation in Ukraine that never existed, allowed a Russophobic version of Ukrainian Nazism to spread.

Putin began to strengthen the sovereignty of Russia as a state and civilization. Then the West supported Ukrainian neo-Nazis and radical Westerners in the 2013-2014 Maidan coup d’etat. Putin responded by reuniting with Crimea and supporting Donbass. Kiev, backed by the West, established a neo-Nazi government in eastern Ukraine and began shelling Donbass and launching regular punitive raids. At the same time, Ukraine was rushing to join NATO, attempting to develop nuclear weapons, developing illegal bioweapons in biolaboratories created with the participation of Hunter Biden, and preparing to attack Donbass and then Crimea.

Russia this time launched a preventive special military operation against t

The Fate Of The World Order Is Being Decided In Ukraine – The Postil Magazine

www.thepostil.com

 

[BerettaGuy]

Biden is asking for U.S. taxpayers to fund the buget, salaries and pension obligations of the Ukraine government. Biden made his request in a letter [SEE HERE] to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi:​

In the old days, what were Kings and queens but heads of families that were not much different than a crime boss head of a family? One king says to the other, my wealth and the wealth of my subjects is greater than yours and I shall conquer you! I can use all the resources of my kingdom to crush your kingdom.
What are Biden and Putin? Both are heads of "crime families" using the ill-gotten wealth stolen from the people they think they rule to send those people to war.
Our wealth! Just history repeating itself. Been happening continually, since the first caveman stole the other caveman's woman.

 

[BerettaGuy]

A long time ago, there was a thread about how the upcoming civil war would be fought in America, I said on Social media. I never dreamed that WWIII would be also.

 

[prambo]

Yeah, it was really a good idea to ship this stuff to the corrupt Ukrainian government - most have probably already been sold to ISIS and the Taliban to pad Zelenskyy's Cayman Islands accounts.

Inability to Quickly Replace Stingers and Javelins for Ukraine Highlights Industrial Base Problems - Air Force Magazine

ETA: The stupid is getting worse...saw a "Zelenskyy 2024" yard sign in Saranac Lake yesterday that used the Ukrainian flag as a background.

The fUSA is totally mind-fucked.

 

[Defilade]

Yeah, it was really a good idea to ship this stuff to the corrupt Ukrainian government - most have probably already been sold to ISIS and the Taliban to pad Zelenskyy's Cayman Islands accounts.

Inability to Quickly Replace Stingers and Javelins for Ukraine Highlights Industrial Base Problems - Air Force Magazine

ETA: The stupid is getting worse...saw a "Zelenskyy 2024" yard sign is Saranac Lake yesterday that used the Ukrainian flag as a background.

The fUSA is totally mind-fucked.

Yes they are. Retards, just like with Covid.

 

[spat]

I continue to be astonished at the difference in narratives on this topic. In the year 2022, with the advent of the internet and social media, we are still in the dark as to what exactly is going on. The dominant mainstream narrative is the russians have lost a tremendous number of casualties in terms of men and equipment - they cannot continue at this rate and will have to sue for peace. The other narrative is the russians are methodically advancing in ukraine and their ultimate victory is inevitable.

In this age of information technology how is it possible these two diametrically opposed narratives can continue to exist?

Personally, I hope the russians lose but first they completely destroy the ukrainian infrastructure - specifically every last goddam bioweapons "research" facility. And if the united states is complicit in creating new bioterror weapons I hope the russians broadcast the evidence far and wide.

They are not diametrically opposed narratives. It only seems that way.

The Russians are losing a massive number of troops and equipment, and any western nation would be absolutely unable to continue.

But Russia doesn't care how many of their people get fed into the meat grinder, so they can continue to make progress.

Will they run out of equipment and military aged men before they run out of Ukrainian territory to conquer, who knows.

The real factor that will determine the outcome is western aid. If we step it up enough that the Ukranians can start really retaking territory, then the Russians will be in a real pickle.

If we decide to cut our losses and stop shipping billions of dollars of gear every week, then the Russians will win.

It really is up to us.

 

[spat]

Biden's Mammoth $33BN Ukraine Package Includes Help With Wartime Propaganda​

Politico's Christopher Miller noted earlier that the record-smashing $33 billion spending package that the White House is proposing for Ukraine actually "dwarfs the annual defense budgets of most nations." To which we naturally asked: how many billions of dollars does it take to turn a 'proxy' war into a 'direct conflict'?

For starters it's clear that such a massive amount of taxpayer money means that Washington clearly doesn't expect that the war will end anytime soon, as multiple US defense and intelligence officials have recently testified. In fact General Mark Milley, the chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the House Armed Services Committee during the first week of this month that he sees this as a "very protracted conflict" to come that will be "at least measured in years."

Biden in his Thursday rollout remarks described that the new aid package "begins the transition to longer-term security assistance." But interestingly as part of this assistance, a key area that the US will fund is what's essentially information warfare...

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Somehow I doubt the big guy's cut will end up on his tax return....

 

[livingston]

 

[Cavalry]

A long time ago, there was a thread about how the upcoming civil war would be fought in America, I said on Social media. I never dreamed that WWIII would be also.

Jesus. Do these clowns have any urban training at all? Lets just take 10 guys and run them across an open area, ducks in a row, 10' apart.

 

[SonOfSun]

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Result of Mexican border crossing:



Result of Russian border crossing:


Next question.

 

[Arjuna]

 

[Defilade]

 

[livingston]

Exclusive: Oligarch with Hunter Biden Connection Avoids Sanction List​

Exclusive: Oligarch with Hunter Biden Connection Avoids Sanction List

Someone Has Some Explaining To Do

vickyward.substack.com

 

[spat]

Most people get the sides wrong in this war.

They are not Republicans vs Democrats.

They are not even conservatives vs liberals.

Globalist vs individualists is getting closer, but still not right.


The real sides are governments vs the people.

 

[Defilade]

Most people get the sides wrong in this war.

They are not Republicans vs Democrats.

They are not even conservatives vs liberals.

Globalist vs individualists is getting closer, but still not right.


The real sides are governments vs the people.

Follow the Money. That is all.

 

[livingston]

Spokesperson For World’s Largest Military Overwhelmed with Emotion for Ukraine During Press Briefing​

Comrades, the deep, long and sullen violins were playing tearfully today as the World War Reddit theatrical performance came heavily to the Pentagon. Leading narrative engineer John Kirby was captivating in his role as profoundly sullen squire overwhelmed with the magnitude of the moment and the emotion of the struggle in Ukraine.
The Biden production company is attempting to raise another $33 billion for enhanced theater operations in the besieged European country. Pentagon chournalists are collecting canned goods, including soundbites, to support the war effort; and the Defense Dept is broadcasting the theme to Chariots of Fire across NATO signals.

Spokesperson For World's Largest Military Overwhelmed with Emotion for Ukraine During Press Briefing - The Last Refuge

Comrades, the deep, long and sullen violins were playing tearfully today as the World War Reddit theatrical performance came heavily to the Pentagon. Leading narrative engineer John Kirby was captivating in his role as profoundly sullen squire overwhelmed with the magnitude of the moment and...

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Putin's invasion of Ukraine is of 'most depraved sort,' Kirby says​

 

[BerettaGuy]

My mother was suffering from dementia and when I see these videos of the President of the United State and the head of the Biden Crime Family it's de javu all over again of when I would spend time with my mom at the Assisted Living Facility.

 

[BerettaGuy]

Somehow I doubt the big guy's cut will end up on his tax return....

Nor will Nancy's Chuck's and all the other corrupt elected officials that gorge themselves at the public trough. I mean who is going to miss a few hundred thou or even a mil or two.