What if we've already been in ww3 for years and just don't realize its already started
Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)
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What if we've already been in ww3 for years and just don't realize its already started
We are at WW3. Everything this Administration is doing is destroying this Nation. We are literally attacked from multiple fronts.
prambo
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You're right...fUSA.Gov has been at war with its own citizens for decades.
It just got very serious when Obola was coronated and he and Eric "Cock-Eater" Holder repurposed the DOJ and DHS.
Both of them are hard core Maoists, and their followers are fascist running dogs.
U.S. intel helped Ukraine sink Russian flagship Moskva, officials say
The flagship of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet sank on April 14 after being struck by two Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missiles, according to U.S. officials.
www.nbcnews.com
U.S. intel helped Ukraine sink Russian flagship Moskva, officials say
The flagship of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet sank on April 14 after being struck by two Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missiles, according to U.S. officials.
We are playing with fire. Russians will retaliate.
U.S. Intelligence Is Helping Ukraine Kill Russian Generals, Officials Say (Published 2022)
Targeting assistance is part of a classified effort by the Biden administration to provide real-time battlefield intelligence to Ukraine.
U.S. intel helped Ukraine sink Russian flagship Moskva, officials say
The flagship of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet sank on April 14 after being struck by two Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missiles, according to U.S. officials.
This is literally being at war with someone but trying to play semantics by saying "we're not killing/shooting them so we're not at war".
We are openly and proudly arming Ukraine to kill Russians and providing intelligence to sink ships and kill generals.
People have no idea how close we are to ww3 and nukes flying
A very logical and likely "next" series of events is when Russia sees a usaf rc-135 or navy P-8 Poseidon patrol plane over the black sea monitoring the Russian fleet, they don't want their ships being attacked and having ships sunk and sailors killed so they pre-emptively attack the us plane to avoid intelligence being passed in which will lead to dead Russians. The US and NATO will obviously reply. There are likely us stealth jets running combat patrols over eastern Europe as I'm typing this so it's likely they would immediately return fire and likely wherever the Russian plane took off from or where the surface to air missiles were launched from also gets retaliation strikes against it. Now we are at a point where the US and Russia have actively killed each other and are not even at a formal state of war. At which point one or both sides are left deciding whether to immediately seek a cease fire or contemplating a sudden first strike to eliminate the others ability to engage them. That's an increasing realistic scenario that could unfold at any moment.
And I'm not pro Russia or a Russian apologist. I'm trying to think this through logically and pragmatically.
And this is different from the support the Russians gave the north Vietnamese? Russian trawlers radioed the position of our B-52 bombers. Did we attack the Russians as a result?We are playing with fire. Russians will retaliate.
U.S. Intelligence Is Helping Ukraine Kill Russian Generals, Officials Say (Published 2022)
Targeting assistance is part of a classified effort by the Biden administration to provide real-time battlefield intelligence to Ukraine.www.nytimes.com
That is a similar comparison but not entirely equivalent.
Russia at least pretended it wasn't them and tried to hide it. They tried to maintain plausible deniability.
We do it openly and brag about it
We were in Vietnam for who the hell knows why. Our decision makers clearly knew it wasn't an existential threat. It was on the other side of the earth.
Russia for their rhetoric genuinely believes (or at least states) that this is an existential threat to their country's future. This is all occurring within a couple hundred of miles of Russias capital.
Vietnam was in totally different era of military technology.
Our weapons, our reconosance. I guess we had a Ukrainian push the button on our command. Maybe not even that.
If Putin keeps his promise, it will be fast. Nukes for everyone.
OK WW3 hot war will be fast.
Who knows. Most people think so but it could drag on for awhile. I have no idea.
Russia cannot invade us. They can nuke us to oblivion but they don't have the resources to invade.
China can. China can invade us or at least try to.
Ww3 can last 1 hours and be over, or drag on and last 10+ years. I just don't know. Way too many unknowns.
ArmedCorgi
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This is proxy war. Nothing new. Not a new game with the Russians.
Or Americans.
ArmedCorgi
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We played this game with them in Afganistan for one example. Our weapons, intel and training killed Russians there. Ukraine is no different.
1341
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Please explain how that is going to happen
prambo
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Nor the fUSA.
Be creative
Russia lobs a few nukes at us and/or an emp.
Our leadership, key Military locations, a few cities, comms and command and control are wiped out.
China is the meme of the guy lurking behind the tree licking his lips rubbing his hands together. They decide now is a great time to act while we are wounded and in disarray. They either overtly invade or trojan horse style invade under the disguise of peacekeeper/un/international aid.
prambo
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Shit we have fucked most of the countries in the world.
1341
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Be really creative it's alot closer to Moscow then LA
spat
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He's right, but for the wrong reason.
It is all Biden's fault, but not for the support. For the lack of support.
Russia has no right to demand Ukraine not join NATO. Any more than they can demand Finland or Sweden not join. Or are you suggesting Putin would be justified in invading Finland now that it looks like that want in ?
The Ukraine invasion happened because Biden practically said we would not get involved.
If he had said "we will support the defense of Ukraine with arms and money" it might not have.
If he had pledged airsupport, nobody would have died on either side, because Russia would have stayed home.
spat
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With what?We are playing with fire. Russians will retaliate.
U.S. Intelligence Is Helping Ukraine Kill Russian Generals, Officials Say (Published 2022)
Targeting assistance is part of a classified effort by the Biden administration to provide real-time battlefield intelligence to Ukraine.
They only have one move left, and it's suicide.
prambo
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spat
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China would be fucked there too.
They wouldn't be in a position to invade anything outside of parts of Asia or Africa.
They would lose most of their markets for products, and most of their sources of raw materials.
Trying to predict who would come out on top of that apocalypse is a fools game. The answer is some group that isn't on anyone's radar right now.
Some men just want to watch the world burn. Some men see it as their only option.
Take everything away from a man and he will have nothing to lose.
spat
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Putin had recent cancer surgery, he may have nothing to lose. Suicide bombers are hard to stop, but appeasement is never the answer.
The rest of Russia would probably prefer to go back to the way things were in January.
ArmedCorgi
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Remember when Turkey shot down a Russian plane because it flew into it's airspace?
So level of technology makes a difference? What a ridiculous and absurd statement.
The Russians gave the north Vietnamese intelligence and military technology with the express purpose of inflicting military casualties. We are doing the same in Ukraine. The technology may be more advanced but the principle is the same.
Keep moving those goalposts baby! So sorry your boy Putin's little excursion isn't going so well. Well, not really.