Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)

[holdover]

I'm skeptical about the use of nukes unless it's a false flag for Nato to enter ukraine.the whole point of nukes was to ensure the destruction of a target. Witaccuracy of modern weapons it's almost pointless if you thi k about it

 

[ArmedCorgi]

The map tells me ,the Russians are not pulling out of kershon region.
I can see the Russians blowing the dam to stop a Ukrain offensive and to hold kershon city.i can also see the Ukrainians blowing the dam to stop the Russians. Right now the area west of kershon is still loaded with Russian units.the Russians don't blow it unless thier own forces are beat back to the city.

Lots of talk about both sides each accusing the other to detonate a full on nuclear warhead or a radioactive dirty bomb.

So.... They're both preemptively trying to blame the other for when it happens.

The Russian minister of defense has made multiple calls in the past 72 hours to us secdef. The British minister of defense just flew to the Pentagon for an urgent meeting

Not good. Not good at all. Use your brain on what that is an indicator of.

Where are ya'll getting your info? Serious question.

 

[holdover]

I get mine from looking at maps.and the media, The media has been telling us for weeks that the Russians are leaving Kershon and civilians are evacuateing the city the Russians are cut off from the western bank And one side or the other are planning to attack the dam up river from Kershon possibly with Nuclear weapons . that stuff is all over the media right now

But after 2- 3 weeks of the russians retreating from Kershon region, the maps are not showing any newly aquired areas in that region by Ukraine

Zelenskiy calls on West to warn Russia not to blow up dam

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy urged the West to warn Russia not to blow up a dam that would flood a large area of southern Ukraine, as his forces prepared to push Moscow's troops from the occupied city of Kherson.

www.reuters.com

Russia may about to cause a “historical disaster” in a horrific “terrorist attack” by blowing up a dam and flooding a huge proportion of Ukraine in order to frame Kyiv, President Volodymyr Zelensky has warned. Multiple sources have claimed Moscow has placed explosives on the dam of the Kakhovka hydroelectric plant and kicked out its staff with the intention of blowing it up and sending 18 million cubic metres of water hurtling for 80 Ukrainian settlements, including Kherson, according to analysis by Ukrainian journalist Myroslava Petsa.
Mr Zelensky added that the Kremlin will attempt to place the blame on Ukraine as the flood covers the Russian retreat from the area, a belief shared by US-based think-tank the Institute for the Study of War.

'Atomic bomb of water' could be released if Russia attacks key dam

The possible plan by Russia to blow up a key dam could destroy the lives of hundreds of thousands of people - and they are going to try and frame Ukraine for it.

www.express.co.uk

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[Drinkthekoolaid]

Where are ya'll getting your info? Serious question.

I get mine from some alternative media places but try to verify a lot of the claims. Here are a few mainline news stories saying similar

Russia's Shoigu holds second call with U.S. defense secretary in three days

Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu spoke with U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin on Sunday for the second time in three days and held a flurry of calls with three other counterparts from NATO countries.

www.reuters.com

Russia's Shoigu warns of 'uncontrolled escalation' in Ukraine conflict

Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu told his French counterpart in a telephone call on Sunday that the situation in Ukraine was rapidly deteriorating and trending towards "uncontrolled escalation".

www.reuters.com

Top US, Russian Generals Speak Amid Fears of Nuclear Escalation

US Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley spoke with his Russian counterpart Monday, agreeing to keep lines of communication open amid growing fears that Russia may further escalate its war in Ukraine.

www.bloomberg.com

Ukraine war: Mysterious defence secretary trip to Washington amid fears of Russian escalation

The secretive, last-minute nature of the trip and a comment by a second defence minister, James Heappey - who said the conversations Mr Wallace would be having on Tuesday were "beyond belief" - suggested particularly sensitive and serious issues would be discussed.

news.sky.com

Zelensky calls for ‘preventative action’ from NATO to keep Russia from using nukes

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky called on NATO to conduct “preventative action” against Russian targets to prevent their use of nuclear weapons in

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Etc




It's bad.

Like real bad. I genuinely think the normies will poop themselves they will be so shocked. All the indicators are there for people to see. I wasn't alive in 1962 but this is every bit as likely to end in nuclear war.

@holdover take on Kherson is pretty good. What he's saying is the information as it as reliably known. It's very murky but that seems to be an accurate assessment.



I watch and listen to a lot of alternative media. Some is more alternative than others but most of what they are saying is far more accurate than is being reported in the west. If you're interested I'll post some up here just let me know

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I get mine from looking at maps.and the media, The media has been telling us for weeks that the Russians are leaving Kershon and civilians are evacuateing the city the Russians are cut off from the western bank And one side or the other are planning to attack the dam up river from Kershon possibly with Nuclear weapons . that stuff is all over the media right now

But after 2- 3 weeks of the russians retreating from Kershon region, the maps are not showing any newly aquired areas in that region by Ukraine

Zelenskiy calls on West to warn Russia not to blow up dam

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy urged the West to warn Russia not to blow up a dam that would flood a large area of southern Ukraine, as his forces prepared to push Moscow's troops from the occupied city of Kherson.

www.reuters.com

Russia may about to cause a “historical disaster” in a horrific “terrorist attack” by blowing up a dam and flooding a huge proportion of Ukraine in order to frame Kyiv, President Volodymyr Zelensky has warned. Multiple sources have claimed Moscow has placed explosives on the dam of the Kakhovka hydroelectric plant and kicked out its staff with the intention of blowing it up and sending 18 million cubic metres of water hurtling for 80 Ukrainian settlements, including Kherson, according to analysis by Ukrainian journalist Myroslava Petsa.
Mr Zelensky added that the Kremlin will attempt to place the blame on Ukraine as the flood covers the Russian retreat from the area, a belief shared by US-based think-tank the Institute for the Study of War.

'Atomic bomb of water' could be released if Russia attacks key dam

The possible plan by Russia to blow up a key dam could destroy the lives of hundreds of thousands of people - and they are going to try and frame Ukraine for it.

www.express.co.uk

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I know holdover knows but those who don't The zaparitsia nuclear plant (largest in the world) is in this exact region all the fighting is going on right on the river. It's already lost power and many are Speculation that it will become a massive dirty bomb from attack/sabotage.

Depending on which forces are on what side of the river will be interesting. I saw an article that Russia moved a lot of conscripts to the west back and strategiclly withdrew their experienced forces to the right bank. Who knows...

 

[ArmedCorgi]

All those sources are msm. My take from all that, (if we are to believe any of it)* is they are keeping lines of communication open. This is key. I'm not trying to bury my head in the sand, but I'll really start worrying when those lines go dead.
If the goal of the FUSA is to destroy Russia, it would be counter productive to enter into any kind of nuclear exchange with Russia. Even if TPTB think some loss is acceptable, nuclear exchanges are another thing entirely, as in hard to control.
I see things like the 101 being deployed as precautionary, nothing new and likely something that has been going on since the onset of all this. The whole "we'll defend every inch of NATO territory" bit is sabre rattling. Ukraine isn't part of NATO. It's all posturing. I'd be interested to find out what the posture of Soviet forces was like during Vietnam.

 

[spat]

I'm skeptical about the use of nukes unless it's a false flag for Nato to enter ukraine.the whole point of nukes was to ensure the destruction of a target. Witaccuracy of modern weapons it's almost pointless if you thi k about it

Tactical nukes, yes, except maybe for bunker busting. Even there modern conventional weapons can crack all but the hardest defense.

Strategic nukes are still very much a thing.

 

[fresch]

I read the headline then make up the rest, like the msm .

 

[Acer-m14]

holy crap nothing happened in Ukraine yesterday lol

 

[fresch]

No hiding is in Syracuse at occ today. To tell the brain dead how he and whorecul got micron to come to syr..

 

[prambo]

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[Defilade]

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Lots of NPC's in that room!

 

[Arjuna]

Russia threatens to shoot down Western satellites for helping Ukraine

 

[Defilade]

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

Battle erupts between Polish mercenaries, Ukrainian nationalists near Liman — LPR official

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Battle erupts between Polish mercenaries, Ukrainian nationalists near Liman — LPR official​

It is reported that a group of Ukrainian nationalists, who were sent to sort the situation out, "failed to build a conversation" and its members were killed

LUGANSK, October 26. /TASS/. Polish mercenaries stationed in the Liman area..."

 

[Defilade]

If the prestigious US Airborne Division "Screaming Eagles" enters the territory of Ukraine, then it will be "torn to shreds" by Russian troops. This was stated by Paul Craig Roberts, a former employee of the White House during the administration of Ronald Reagan.

“If we take seriously the statements of the command of the 101st Airborne Division that their forces are deployed three miles from the border of Ukraine and are ready to cross it to engage in battle with Russian troops? Usually the paratroopers do not have enough heavy weapons. A lightly armed division will simply be torn to shreds by heavily armed Russian infantry,” Roberts wrote on his website in his article

"The Rising Danger of Putin's Go-Slow Limited War" (The Rising Danger of Putin’s Go-Slow Limited War |)

 

[tirwin1]

Is russia reverting back to the practices of world war 2 by shooting retreating troops?

Russia Now Has a Second Frontline Just to Kill Its Deserters

Russian soldier on leaked call said: “If someone runs back, we snuff them out.”

www.thedailybeast.com

Not a good sign if true.

 

[DoOver]

 

[Mosinitis]

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If the prestigious US Airborne Division "Screaming Eagles" enters the territory of Ukraine, then it will be "torn to shreds" by Russian troops. This was stated by Paul Craig Roberts, a former employee of the White House during the administration of Ronald Reagan.

“If we take seriously the statements of the command of the 101st Airborne Division that their forces are deployed three miles from the border of Ukraine and are ready to cross it to engage in battle with Russian troops? Usually the paratroopers do not have enough heavy weapons. A lightly armed division will simply be torn to shreds by heavily armed Russian infantry,” Roberts wrote on his website in his article

"The Rising Danger of Putin's Go-Slow Limited War" (The Rising Danger of Putin’s Go-Slow Limited War |)

I think they are there for when there will be a need to evacuate Americans who are running Ukraine. They can't do shit against 700,000 Russian troops expected to start the offensive.

 

[livingston]

 

[tirwin1]

I think they are there for when there will be a need to evacuate Americans who are running Ukraine. They can't do shit against 700,000 Russian troops expected to start the offensive.

700,000?

Seriously doubt that figure.

 

[Mosinitis]

700,000?

Seriously doubt that figure.

They currently have 1,300, 000 (conscripts and mobilized reserves) plus Wagner and Donbas forces. Only 300,000 out of 2,000,000 reservists were mobilized.

Russian Armed Forces - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[spat]

They currently have 1,300, 000 (conscripts and mobilized reserves) plus Wagner and Donbas forces. Only 300,000 out of 2,000,000 reservists were mobilized.

Russian Armed Forces - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

yea, but how many of them actually have guns, or even boots for that matter....

 

[Acer-m14]

anyone know what side there on .. LOL ..

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

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There is no confirmation of any damage from Western sources. The attack appears to be a failure with drones intercepted by Russian air defense missiles and helicopters.

 

[Steal2B]

There is no confirmation of any damage from Western sources. The attack appears to be a failure with drones intercepted by Russian air defense missiles and helicopters.

"In view of the terrorist act carried out by the Kyiv regime with the participation of British experts against ships of the Black Sea Fleet and civilian ships involved in the security of grain corridors, Russia is suspending its participation in the implementation of the agreement on the export of agricultural products from Ukrainian ports,” the Russian Defense Ministry announced on Telegram."

"Authorities say the attack took place in the early hours of Saturday with 'nine unmanned aerial vehicles and seven autonomous maritime drones', causing 'damage' to a minesweeper vessel and the bay's containment boom of Sevastopol."

 

[Mosinitis]

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"In view of the terrorist act carried out by the Kyiv regime with the participation of British experts against ships of the Black Sea Fleet and civilian ships involved in the security of grain corridors, Russia is suspending its participation in the implementation of the agreement on the export of agricultural products from Ukrainian ports,” the Russian Defense Ministry announced on Telegram."

"Authorities say the attack took place in the early hours of Saturday with 'nine unmanned aerial vehicles and seven autonomous maritime drones', causing 'damage' to a minesweeper vessel and the bay's containment boom of Sevastopol."

This damage is insignificant and much less than the cost of the attack drones. The attack was a failure, but there is going to be a response, which makes it a strategic failure as well.

Russian military reveals details of Ukrainian drone attack in Crimea

The repelled Ukrainian attack on the city of Sevastopol in Crimea involved nine aerial and seven naval drones, Russia’s military has said

www.rt.com

 

[GOPerfect]

I am waiting with bated breath for Russian forces to really pick up their game.

 

[Mosinitis]

I am waiting with bated breath for Russian forces to really pick up their game.

Most of mobilized reserves are still in training.