Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)

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International warlord Lindsey Graham appeared in Ukrainian propaganda video celebrating Russian deaths, which caused Russian government to issue a warrant for his arrest.

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US senator denies calling Russian deaths ‘a good investment’

Lindsey Graham blamed “Russian propaganda” for a controversy over a clip provided by Kiev of his meeting with Zelensky
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The best money this country spent wasn't on breast cancer research that increased survival rates. It wasn't on medical research that lowered child mortality rates. Not on heart disease breakthroughs. It wasn't on space exploration that brought all this new technology.
The best money this country spent was on killing Russians and killing Ukrainians in the process. If the Russians drone this fucking moron on his next visit, I will not shed any tears.

 
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holdover said:
Ukraine's major spring offensive will happen sometime this summer....or fall.
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Ukraine cannot win. I am trying to be impartial and objective.

I feel for the Ukrainian people and I think in their interest the best outcome is the war to end ASAP, try to prevent future loss of life and start trying to rebuild.


NATO and the west want to try and bleed Russia as dry as they can with Ukrainian blood. They will fight Russia to the last Ukrainian.
 
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tirwin1 said:
Is anyone surprised at this?


I'm not.
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I am not surprised. There is a long history of cooperation between CIA, drug cartels and worldwide terrorist groups. These black market weapon deals are more along the lines of killing two birds with one stone, rather then a case of oops. The consequences will be blamed on Ukrainian corruption. American public doesn't care what the government is doing outside our borders. Only when it hits home like it did on 9/11 and with epidemic of drug overdose.

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Hmmm, so lets' see, our corrupt politicians out corrupted the corrupt Russian politicians in winning over the corrupt politicians in the Ukraine, and good decent people are paying for it with their lives. How does one choose sides in this triple crown of evil?
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Robin said:
Hmmm, so lets' see, our corrupt politicians out corrupted the corrupt Russian politicians in winning over the corrupt politicians in the Ukraine, and good decent people are paying for it with their lives. How does one choose sides in this triple crown of evil?
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Ah yes, the tangled web we weave...
 
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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is letting his frustration and impatience over the question of entering the NATO military alliance be known. "Our future is in the European Union. Ukraine is also ready to be part of NATO. We are waiting for NATO to be ready to accept Ukraine," he said Thursday to journalists just ahead of a summit of the European Political Community in Chisinau, Moldova.

At the summit, he demanded that Ukraine receive security guarantees "now" and emphasized the best way to ensure this is acceptance into NATO. But the idea of 'security guarantees' has also long been under discussion, with French President Emmanuel Macron on Wednesday having explained that the country could be given "something between the security provided to Israel and full-fledged membership."

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Zelensky demanded that Ukraine receive security guarantees "now"


He's in trouble, and he see's it. If NATO doesn't intervene on his behalf soon, Ukraine is lost.

He has no airforce, no navy, air defense has been degraded badly, Has a few dozen western tanks and whatever they have left over from the fighting, His artillery has been degraded , his ammo stocks have been degraded , They have no effective defense against enemy drones
and he's nearly 100% dependent on foreign aid .


 
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Interesting discussion on possible outcome of the conflict. I don't know if I agree or disagree, but a lot of what they say makes sense.

 
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Mosinitis said:
Interesting discussion on possible outcome of the conflict. I don't know if I agree or disagree, but a lot of what they say makes sense.

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I dont see Russia negotiating at all. So they can fight them later? After they rearmed? No freaking way. Want to or not, they are forced to go to the Polish border. If or when the Russians get to the Dipro river. the Ukrainians will most likely be forced to surrender anyway.

Personally speaking, I think the Ukrainians were hurt a lot more than what were being told. I believe a lot of weapons and ammo have been destroyed , A lot of the leadership killed. I wouldn't be surprised if the Ukrainian army started falling apart this summer or fall. Once they blow thier load this summer , there isnt going to be much left to resist.
 
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The largest country on the planet earth, with untold resources yet to be discovered, and they need Donbass?!? Like the kid that lost all his marbles while searching for just one more.
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