So.... because the American government lied about that genocide you can lie about the Russian one? Is that the logic at play here?
Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)
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American government lie was about who were the victims, not the standard used for genocide.
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when is NATO showing up with a Treaty for them to sign ????
spat
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Did these kids and their parents have a choice in the matter LOL?They are a part of Russia now and Russia is punching back. The children are able to go to the best schools in Russia away from the war. ICC labeled it a war crime.
"Best schools in Russia" is that like the "most honest guy in Albany" LOL.
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First, I "ignore" Mosinitis - it's purely personal, and based on 2 irrelevant and unrelated things.
But, here, I'll speak my mind.
Yes, the "holodomor" was a genocide. I have studied genocides since I was 12 years old - almost 65 years.
But,...
1) it was conducted under the auspices of the USSR, not Russia. Not "samey-samey", but related.
2) Stalin, who ran the USSR then, with an iron fist ("stalin", in Russian, is supposed to mean "steel"???) was not a Russian, he was a Georgian.
I know a few Ukrainians - they universally hate Russians - I'm guessing this antipathy goes back generations, if not centuries, and is deeply embedded in the Ukrainian and Russian psyches.
Regardless, the fUSA has no interests there, except for the $$$$$$$$$$ that is flowing to corrupt politicians in the DC swamp which, to be real, is most of the fucking shitweasels.
prambo
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Putin, at the least, doesn't parse words...assuming the translation is correct, which I never do.
holdover
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He's not lying, Russia has the best air defense in the world. Our money went into high end state of the art fighters , Russia 's money went into high end state of the art anti air missiles. the F16 as good as it is , is 50 year old aircraft, Up dated I know but not state of the art . the ukraine pilots, dont have the time needed in that aircraft to really learn it and know it. All Russian fighters would be fighting under the umbrella of the best anti air system in the world. The F16s, like the western tanks, just wont have the numbers needed to change the outcome of the war . Just like the other wonder weapons we sent.
Holodomor was a famine, it wasn't a genocide targeting Ukrainians. Ukrainians who hated Russians the most were in Western Ukraine, which wasn't even a part of the Soviet Union at the time of famine. You can ignore me, but you can't ignore history and geography.
My arguments are based on reality. I don't need to marry them to any ideology to please the readers.
spat
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Because their friends and family that were in *eastern* Ukraine all died.
FWIW, an engineered famine is one of the more common ways to attempt genocide.
They were in different Empires for generations, there were no family ties to speak of. Ukrainian Nationalist (OUN) movement was formed in 1929 to fight against Polish oppression and was treated by Polish government as a terrorist organization. Stalin and 1932 famine had nothing to do with it.
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Nevar
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Stop sending unlimited $$$$$$$ to a commie who hate the USA.
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looking out for his kickbacks ..
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holdover
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Note where the escalation lies. And if he hits those bases, other aircraft are bound to be hit. Nato will begin useing all of its aircraft Because it would be stupid not to. and of course Russia will be blamed for escalation when it hits targets in Poland UK and Germany, Of course NATO would have to hit airbases deep inside Russia to have an effect. article 5 could be used. Starting a war and making it look like russia did it.
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ArmedCorgi
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If we nuked Russia right now, Russia would be blamed for it, in our media.
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A murderous thug.
A truly courageous man.
Robin
A truly courageous man.
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Can you show us on a doll where Putin touched you?
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holdover
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Putin studied law at the Leningrad State University named after Andrei Zhdanov (now Saint Petersburg State University) in 1970 and graduated in 1975. His thesis was on "The Most Favored Nation Trading Principle in International Law".
In 1997, he received his Ph.D. in economics (Candidate of Economic Sciences) at the Saint Petersburg Mining University for a thesis on the strategic planning of the mineral economy.
Putin's doctoral dissertation, MINERAL & RAW MATERIALS RESOURCES & DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY FOR THE RUSSIAN ECONOMY.
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Ukraine is getting its but kicked. The offensive has been officially paused. 2 weeks into the offensive and they have taken a few hamlets and a little bit of land with heavy casualties.
Poland will most likely jump in at some point or Ukraine is lost.
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Poland will most likely jump in at some point or Ukraine is lost.
Ukraine may be ‘pausing counteroffensive’, say military experts
Think tank says Kyiv’s forces may be temporarily halting their operations to ‘re-evaluate their tactics’
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Ukraine is getting its but kicked. The offensive has been officially paused. 2 weeks into the offensive and they have taken a few hamlets and a little bit of land with heavy casualties.
Poland will most likely jump in at some point or Ukraine is lost.
Ukraine may be ‘pausing counteroffensive’, say military experts
Think tank says Kyiv’s forces may be temporarily halting their operations to ‘re-evaluate their tactics’
RT is reporting Russian forces went on the offensive in several regions.
holdover
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Im seeing that. To early to really say. It would help to divert troops away from the UKI offensive, makes sense.
Robin
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Mosinitis, Putins' American(?) blow job.
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Пошёл на хуй.
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Engel asked Zelenskyy whether he was worried if certain candidates winning the 2024 U.S. presidential election raised concerns for Ukraine.
“The American people will choose the most worthy president and we will support this choice. And that’s normal and fair,” Zelenskyy replied. “Of course some statements from representatives of specific groups and politicians calling for diminished support of Ukraine, yes that does worry us. I think that’s a big risk for Ukraine. It’s not the person at the top, it’s the change of policy we want to avoid. I believe that won’t happen.”
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DeSantis also questioned the idea that Russia poses a threat beyond Ukraine, chalking up Russia’s progress so far in the war to a “loss.”
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This might be a possible geo political strategy for Putin. Let NATO empty their bank accounts and armory, avoid a direct conflict with NATO demolish Ukraine military,obtain a much better deal Russia can live with . All he has to do is sit back and wait for the US elections
“The American people will choose the most worthy president and we will support this choice. And that’s normal and fair,” Zelenskyy replied. “Of course some statements from representatives of specific groups and politicians calling for diminished support of Ukraine, yes that does worry us. I think that’s a big risk for Ukraine. It’s not the person at the top, it’s the change of policy we want to avoid. I believe that won’t happen.”
Trump, DeSantis, RFK Jr. Seek Ukraine Settlement
Rather than continuing to arm and fund Ukraine’s military, Trump and DeSantis have both called for a peaceful cessation of hostilities.In a March response to a questionnaire from then Fox News host Tucker Carlson, DeSantis said the United States has many pressing national security concerns but “becoming further entangled in a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia is not one of them” and “peace should be the objective.”
Following his initial comments about Ukraine, DeSantis told Fox News host Piers Morgan that the Russian decision to invade Ukraine was “wrong” and labeled Russian President Vladimir Putin a “war criminal,” but stood by his position that the United States should not get further involved in the conflict.
DeSantis also questioned the idea that Russia poses a threat beyond Ukraine, chalking up Russia’s progress so far in the war to a “loss.”
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This might be a possible geo political strategy for Putin. Let NATO empty their bank accounts and armory, avoid a direct conflict with NATO demolish Ukraine military,obtain a much better deal Russia can live with . All he has to do is sit back and wait for the US elections
I doubt any of the NATO members want to submit to this slaughter. Ukrainians are used by the NATO. NATO doesn't care about their casualties, because Ukrainians are of the same ethnos as the Russians. NATO is killing two birds with one stone. At some point Ukrainian Nationalists will turn on NATO, just like Mujahedeen.
holdover
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I dont know, Poland seems to be licking its lips at some Ukrainian land. At some point if the Ukrainian military begins to collapse. the Poles could come storming in to ""rescue"" Western parts of Ukraine from the Russians before they get there. the goal would be similar to Germany , North Korea, split the country in two. It might be the best option for the west if/when Ukraine falls.
Jim is exposing what is going on with Ukraine and around the world.
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