Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)

[Defilade]

Looks like he is Loved like Trump here!

Does this video look
Like the end of Putin- The countdown has started' for the end of Putin's reign following Wagner's failed mutiny, with Vladimir 'losing all connection with reality' Kyiv says 'The countdown has started' for the end of Putin's reign, Kyiv says

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[Robin]

 

[holdover]

The Sudetenland had a predominately German population, and high unemployment ,

Treaty of Versilles, after WW1
The Sudetenland was taken away from Germany and the Austro-Hungarian Empire and given to Czechoslovakia. The region contained Czechs, Germans, Slovaks, Hungarians, Poles and Ruthenians. Although American President Woodrow Wilson had wanted people in disputed regions to be allowed to decide where they would live this did not happen.

Thats why Hitler wanted it back, thats why the Germans in the Sudetenland were cheering .

 

[Robin]

Interesting what you find amusing holdover and what you slobber over as well.
Robin

 

[Mosinitis]

Putin can actually have an intelligent conversation with his people and the press even when disagreeing. Unlike most American presidents who speak in cliches and slogans that either don't make any sense or stopped being relevant decades ago.

 

[Defilade]

 

[holdover]

Interesting what you find amusing holdover and what you slobber over as well.
Robin

Slobber? Is that the same thing as being informed?

 

[Mosinitis]

Not a good summer for Ukrainian military.

Ukrainian generals killed in Russian strike – MOD

Two Ukrainian generals and dozens of officers and foreign advisers were killed in a Russian high-precision strike, Moscow has said

www.rt.com

 

[Mosinitis]

Like hot knife through butter.

 

[Robin]

Inside Russia’s harrowing ‘re-education’ camps — where they send kidnapped Ukrainian kids

Ukrainian mothers have opened up about their efforts to bring back their children from Russian captivity after they had been taken away under the guise of trips.

nypost.com

 

[Robin]

What is a war crime and could Putin be prosecuted over Ukraine?

The ICC wants President Vladimir Putin arrested for war crimes, but South Africa may not cooperate.

www.bbc.com

 

[Acer-m14]

i thought all the Ukraine Mom's and the kids fled ... only the MEN had to stay and fight ..

 

[holdover]

What is a war crime and could Putin be prosecuted over Ukraine?

The ICC wants President Vladimir Putin arrested for war crimes, but South Africa may not cooperate.

www.bbc.com

You show me a war, Ill show you the war crimes

 

[Robin]

Oh, okay, I guess that makes it all right then. Un-effing real.
Robin

 

[holdover]

No of course not. but it shows your ""Point "" is irrelevant . Ukraine has committed war crimes too. The US has committed war crimes , anyone who ever fought a war has most likely committed war crimes. Its the nature of war and people. Doesn't make it right,If you condem Russia for it then you condemn the US too.

You have a CNN simplistic view that Russia invaded Ukraine therefore Russia is wrong.

Do you know what happened in the Donbas?
Do you know why the republics in Ukraine became break away republics?
Do you know what the Minsk accords were?
do you know why Ukraine broke its neutrality agreement with Russia?
Did you know the US had been arming Ukraine since the CIA backed revolution in 14
Did you know Ukraine had an army of 170, 000 near Donbas and Crimea?
DO you know why Russia took Crimea?

Do you know the reasons and causes of this war ? This is a complex subject that happened over a period of decades. its like someones understanding of real estate is houses are green hotels are red. there's a lot more to it than that.

Your blindly agreeing with Biden's policy of arming Ukraine when Biden hasn't been right once. Your talking about war crimes at the same time your supporting it .

 

[FrankenCub]

And not to forget Ukraine was targeting civilian buildings in this war to blame it on Russia. Many civilian interviews saying it was Ukrainian fighters doing it.

 

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[Defilade]

 

[Robin]

No of course not. but it shows your ""Point "" is irrelevant . Ukraine has committed war crimes too. The US has committed war crimes , anyone who ever fought a war has most likely committed war crimes. Its the nature of war and people. Doesn't make it right,If you condem Russia for it then you condemn the US too.

You have a CNN simplistic view that Russia invaded Ukraine therefore Russia is wrong.

Do you know what happened in the Donbas?
Do you know why the republics in Ukraine became break away republics?
Do you know what the Minsk accords were?
do you know why Ukraine broke its neutrality agreement with Russia?
Did you know the US had been arming Ukraine since the CIA backed revolution in 14
Did you know Ukraine had an army of 170, 000 near Donbas and Crimea?
DO you know why Russia took Crimea?

Do you know the reasons and causes of this war ? This is a complex subject that happened over a period of decades. its like someones understanding of real estate is houses are green hotels are red. there's a lot more to it than that.

Your blindly agreeing with Biden's policy of arming Ukraine when Biden hasn't been right once. Your talking about war crimes at the same time your supporting it

I have not, do not and will not blindly agree with Bidens policy towards Ukraine, another non-sequitur self serving line of bullshit.
On the other hand you have demonstrated gleefully your support for that murderous bastard Putin. Obviously you have never seen war and what it does to civilians caught up in it.
Robin

 

[holdover]

I agree with Putin, because in this case, he is right. You support the war in Ukraine you support Bidens policy there. no way around it. Your pro globalism . if Biden did the right thing, I would agree with him too. Im on the side of truth , I dont care who tells it , Im not a blind patriot. My country has been corrupted , its a criminal enterprise .

If you understood the topic better, you wouldnt be so god dammed angry.

And Ill add one more thing, because you dont really seem to be up on the topic, For three months Putin begged Zelenski to return to a neutral country, to stop bombing the donbass , multiple times!! Zelensky told him to go fuck himself . The war could have been avoided if Zelensky didnt attempt to join NATO .

 

[Mosinitis]

Genocide promoter and war profiteer Lindsey Graham booed off the stage at the Trump rally in his home town.

 

[Robin]

I agree with Putin, because in this case, he is right. You support the war in Ukraine you support Bidens policy there. no way around it. Your pro globalism . if Biden did the right thing, I would agree with him too. Im on the side of truth , I dont care who tells it , Im not a blind patriot. My country has been corrupted , its a criminal enterprise .

If you understood the topic better, you wouldnt be so god dammed angry.

And Ill add one more thing, because you dont really seem to be up on the topic, For three months Putin begged Zelenski to return to a neutral country, to stop bombing the donbass , multiple times!! Zelensky told him to go fuck himself . The war could have been avoided if Zelensky didnt attempt to join NATO .

You confuse your opinion and conclusions with hard fact and like many today, don't even realize it. Since I view debate on the internet a waste of my time I'll opt out of this. My opinions are mine and based on known facts and conclusions made from data that I can verify, if only to a certain degree and remain fluid on those points, which when thoroughly vetted out may indeed cause me to change my mind. You are right on many points you make above, and so very wrong on conclusions based on those facts.
Robin

 

[Acer-m14]

 

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[Mosinitis]

Typical wind sniffing plastic politician.

 

[prambo]

I Was Right: There Was No Mutiny |

"Placing Prigozhin’s troops in Belarus shortens the distance to Kiev, making Zelensky’s capital easy to seize. Also the Wagner troops could be used to seal the Polish border with Ukraine or the Western border of Ukraine. "

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Lots of talk about zaparhozsi power plant right now....

The area around the plant has been ordered to be evacuated as well.

Each side is saying the other is planning to sabotage it.


It appears this situation is coming to a head in short order.

To me, it makes the most sense that Ukraine is going to try and blow it up to blame Russia to get more NATO and US support. Remember 2 weeks ago douchenozzle senators Graham and Blumenthal were espousing this exact scenario as justification for the US to enter the conflict directly.

That's not coincidental. None of this is happening by accident or in a vacuum, we are being fed these stories deliberately to try and steer the Overton window in the news cycle.

 

[Mosinitis]

There are International inspectors at Zapp. Nuclear Power plant monitoring the situation. They disagree with Ukrainian claims. There was an interview to that effect on YouTube.

 

[Defilade]

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[holdover]

Lots of talk about zaparhozsi power plant right now....

The area around the plant has been ordered to be evacuated as well.

Each side is saying the other is planning to sabotage it.


It appears this situation is coming to a head in short order.

To me, it makes the most sense that Ukraine is going to try and blow it up to blame Russia to get more NATO and US support. Remember 2 weeks ago douchenozzle senators Graham and Blumenthal were espousing this exact scenario as justification for the US to enter the conflict directly.

That's not coincidental. None of this is happening by accident or in a vacuum, we are being fed these stories deliberately to try and steer the Overton window in the news cycle.

100% . I saw a zelenski tweet saying Russians have placed explosives on the roof tops. The fucking roof tops???? Ive worked with demolitions in the army thats not how its done. unless of course you want ""satellite proof"" . this is a bad joke.