Ukraine - Russia Conflict (Original Title: Things are heating up in the Donbass)
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If Poles invade Belarus, they will respond immediately with tactical nuclear weapons . ( why not? they will be over run anyway)
Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko threatened to use nuclear weapons, deployed to his country by Moscow, if “aggression is launched against us.” This comes as neighboring NATO states have deployed thousands of troops near the Belarusian border amid heightened tensions between Minsk and Warsaw.
During an interview with the state-run media outlet BelTA, Lukashenko appeared to admonish the Washington-led alliance of the massive risks escalation would entail. “If aggression against our country is launched from the side of Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, we will immediately respond with everything we have… And the strike will be unacceptable,” he warned.
“NATO stands behind Poland, Lithuania, Latvia. We certainly understand that the forces are incomparable. But we will deliver an unacceptable strike against them and they will receive unacceptable harm, damage. It is what our security concept is based on.”
Lukashenko continues, “We didn’t bring nuclear weapons here in order to scare someone,” he explained. “Yes, nuclear weapons represent a strong deterring factor. But these are tactical nuclear weapons, not strategic ones. This is why we will use them immediately once aggression is launched against us.”
Belarus is a small country, Lukashenko said, that can be “captured within a month.” That is why “[Minsk] will not tary, wait, and rest. We will use the entire arsenal of our weapons for deterrence.”
Russian President Vladimir Putin has made clear if Belarus is attacked it will be regarded – and responded to accordingly – as an aggression against the Russian Federation.
Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko threatened to use nuclear weapons, deployed to his country by Moscow, if “aggression is launched against us.” This comes as neighboring NATO states have deployed thousands of troops near the Belarusian border amid heightened tensions between Minsk and Warsaw.
During an interview with the state-run media outlet BelTA, Lukashenko appeared to admonish the Washington-led alliance of the massive risks escalation would entail. “If aggression against our country is launched from the side of Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, we will immediately respond with everything we have… And the strike will be unacceptable,” he warned.
“NATO stands behind Poland, Lithuania, Latvia. We certainly understand that the forces are incomparable. But we will deliver an unacceptable strike against them and they will receive unacceptable harm, damage. It is what our security concept is based on.”
Lukashenko continues, “We didn’t bring nuclear weapons here in order to scare someone,” he explained. “Yes, nuclear weapons represent a strong deterring factor. But these are tactical nuclear weapons, not strategic ones. This is why we will use them immediately once aggression is launched against us.”
Belarus is a small country, Lukashenko said, that can be “captured within a month.” That is why “[Minsk] will not tary, wait, and rest. We will use the entire arsenal of our weapons for deterrence.”
Russian President Vladimir Putin has made clear if Belarus is attacked it will be regarded – and responded to accordingly – as an aggression against the Russian Federation.
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According to the Washington Post, the US intelligence community has assessed that Ukraine’s Spring counteroffensive will fail to meet its core objectives. Western officials said their war games had predicted massive Ukrainian losses, but that Kiev would remain committed to the operations and gain the upper hand on the battlefield.
The Post reports it spoke with Western and Ukrainian officials familiar with the intelligence assessment. Washington declined to offer an official statement on the bleak outlook for Ukrainian forces.
Western countries helped Kiev conduct simulations of the counteroffensive, which began in early June, for several months prior to the operations. The US and UK concluded that Ukrainian forces would suffer massive losses but believed Kiev would ignore the losses and maintain the offensive at full scale.
“In the first week of fighting, Ukraine incurred major casualties against Russia’s well-prepared defenses despite having a range of newly acquired Western equipment, including US Bradley Fighting Vehicles, German-made Leopard 2 tanks and specialized mine-clearing vehicles,” the outlet explains. Adding, “Joint war games conducted by the US, British and Ukrainian militaries anticipated such losses but envisioned Kiev accepting the casualties as the cost of piercing through Russia’s main defensive line, said US and Western officials.”
Retired Lt. Col. Daniel Davis wrote earlier this week that Kiev lacked the military equipment needed to conduct a successful counter-offensive. “Ukraine also suffers from a chronic lack of air defense capacity, inadequate numbers of howitzers and artillery shells, insufficient electronic warfare systems, a dearth of missiles, and perhaps most crucial of all, barely 25 percent of the de-mining capacity needed,” he explained in 19FortyFive on Tuesday. “When Ukraine launched its offensive across a broad front on June 5th, it should have surprised no one in Kiev, Washington, or Brussels that they ran into a Russian buzzsaw.”
Last month, the Wall Street Journal spoke with Western officials who drew a similar conclusion as Davis. “When Ukraine launched its big counteroffensive this spring, Western military officials knew Kiev didn’t have all the training or weapons – from shells to warplanes – that it needed to dislodge Russian forces.” The report continues, “But they hoped Ukrainian courage and resourcefulness would carry the day. They haven’t.”
The Post reports it spoke with Western and Ukrainian officials familiar with the intelligence assessment. Washington declined to offer an official statement on the bleak outlook for Ukrainian forces.
Western countries helped Kiev conduct simulations of the counteroffensive, which began in early June, for several months prior to the operations. The US and UK concluded that Ukrainian forces would suffer massive losses but believed Kiev would ignore the losses and maintain the offensive at full scale.
“In the first week of fighting, Ukraine incurred major casualties against Russia’s well-prepared defenses despite having a range of newly acquired Western equipment, including US Bradley Fighting Vehicles, German-made Leopard 2 tanks and specialized mine-clearing vehicles,” the outlet explains. Adding, “Joint war games conducted by the US, British and Ukrainian militaries anticipated such losses but envisioned Kiev accepting the casualties as the cost of piercing through Russia’s main defensive line, said US and Western officials.”
Retired Lt. Col. Daniel Davis wrote earlier this week that Kiev lacked the military equipment needed to conduct a successful counter-offensive. “Ukraine also suffers from a chronic lack of air defense capacity, inadequate numbers of howitzers and artillery shells, insufficient electronic warfare systems, a dearth of missiles, and perhaps most crucial of all, barely 25 percent of the de-mining capacity needed,” he explained in 19FortyFive on Tuesday. “When Ukraine launched its offensive across a broad front on June 5th, it should have surprised no one in Kiev, Washington, or Brussels that they ran into a Russian buzzsaw.”
Last month, the Wall Street Journal spoke with Western officials who drew a similar conclusion as Davis. “When Ukraine launched its big counteroffensive this spring, Western military officials knew Kiev didn’t have all the training or weapons – from shells to warplanes – that it needed to dislodge Russian forces.” The report continues, “But they hoped Ukrainian courage and resourcefulness would carry the day. They haven’t.”
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Putin's rhetoric is based on reality of the world we live in. Biden's rhetoric is mud slinging of hollow American politician riding propaganda blitzkrieg.
Russian fundamental belief is that truth will eventually prevail.
American fundamental belief is that perception is the reality.
Russian fundamental belief is that truth will eventually prevail.
American fundamental belief is that perception is the reality.
Robin
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And the absurdity grows and grows.
Robin
Robin
U.S. Orders Americans in Belarus to ‘Depart Immediately’.
thenationalpulse.com
Since there's no national outrage over Chinese biolabs on America's soil I guess not.
And I'm pissed about it.
Robin
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Yevgeny Prigozhin was on jet that crashed, says Russian aviation authority
Yevgeny Prigozhin was on board the private jet that crashed in the Tver region north of Moscow, the Russian aviation authority has said.
www.telegraph.co.uk
Nothing to see here... Move along.
Odds are Putin or someone else from within the Russian military just whacked prigozhin.
My first thought was sabotage or shoot down and there are now first hand reports and pictures appearing to show what looks like a missile.
And maybe coincidence Russia just literally within hours before prigozhin getting shot down had a top level command shake up. I'm sure just a coincidence, nothing to see.
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www.reuters.com
Im not sure if this increases or decreases the odds of ww3 but dang things are spicy.
My first thought was sabotage or shoot down and there are now first hand reports and pictures appearing to show what looks like a missile.
And maybe coincidence Russia just literally within hours before prigozhin getting shot down had a top level command shake up. I'm sure just a coincidence, nothing to see.
Russia removes 'General Armageddon' as air force chief after mutiny-related disappearance
Russia has removed Sergei Surovikin, nicknamed "General Armageddon", as head of the air force after he vanished from public view during a Wagner mercenary mutiny against the top army brass, two Russian news outlets reported on Wednesday.
www.reuters.com
Im not sure if this increases or decreases the odds of ww3 but dang things are spicy.
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spat
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The US isn't the one invading their neighbors.
That was already done. US is invading all over the planet.
Washington fucked up European economies with sanctions and now Europe needs to step up. Step up to what? Nuclear war?
Typical American political scene, candidates talking out of their ass to a dumbed down and indoctrinated audiance.
Typical American political scene, candidates talking out of their ass to a dumbed down and indoctrinated audiance.
Robin
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O'Henry would be, well, 
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Zelensky Says He Won't Hold Elections Unless U.S. and EU Pay for Them
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky demanded the U.S. and EU send even more aid if the West wishes for elections to be held next year.
www.breitbart.com
Robin
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Vlad the Mad announces NO elections will be held, no matter who pays for them.
Let the clown games begin!
Robin
Let the clown games begin!
Robin
Robin
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Neither was Biden! who cares!!!! Let the games begin!!!!!
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Can we change the Title to ..
Things are getting expensive in donbass for USA Tax Payers ??
Things are getting expensive in donbass for USA Tax Payers ??
Fourth Reich goes after Pope Francis for making inspirational address to Russian Catholics. Maybe they can put him on Mirotvoretz website.
www.rt.com
Pope Francis an ‘instrument of Russian propaganda’ – top Zelensky aide
Pope Francis became an “instrument of Russian propaganda” when praising country’s historical legacy, Ukrainian presidential aide has said
Robin
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Well, the commie Pope is certainly entitled to his opinion. There are some adherent's to Catholicsm that believe he will be the last Pope and destroy the Catholic church.
Robin
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Australian SYPAQ Cardboard Drones 'Used in Spectacular Strike on Russian Airfield'
It’s clear the attack took place and that it was unpleasant for the Russian air force. There’s circumstantial evidence that cleverly designed drones from Down Under did it, but no hard proof.
www.kyivpost.com
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Cardboard drones from Australia used in attack on Russian airfield
The lightweight drones sent flat packed to Ukraine are designed for providing intelligence and surveillance, but appear to have been used in an attack capacity.
Cardboard drones from Australia used in attack on Russian airfield
The lightweight drones sent flat packed to Ukraine are designed for providing intelligence and surveillance, but appear to have been used in an attack capacity.www.smh.com.au
It doesn't look like these drones have the parts on the wings and tail to be able to maneuver.